Author Topic: Help with building a tower (Read 7320 times)

kitamesume · « **Reply #60 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:33:54 AM »

wait, what? i see them at 135$, plus you`ll miss one stick, well you could buy a lone stick later.

kyubixmunky · « **Reply #61 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:56:38 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on June 17, 2011, 08:33:54 AM

wait, what? i see them at 135$, plus you`ll miss one stick, well you could buy a lone stick later.

woops

http://promotions.newegg.com/neemail/june-0-2011/72hoursale17/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL061711&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL061711-_-EMC-061711-Index-_-E0-_-Enter

yeah with promo code: EMCKDJC39

datora · « **Reply #62 on:** June 17, 2011, 10:39:11 PM »

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Quote from: kitamesume on June 17, 2011, 08:33:54 AM

you`ll miss one stick, well you could buy a lone stick later.

Triple channel kits for Intel mobos.

I do wish that AMD boards supported that trick; it's worth a nice little performance bump.

kitamesume · « **Reply #63 on:** June 18, 2011, 01:28:56 AM »

holy crap, hey ditch the idea about g.skill, look at the left side, its the sniper kit for 77$, didnt i mention they're worth 130$?

datora · « **Reply #64 on:** June 18, 2011, 06:49:31 AM »

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Well, notice that the Sniper kit is G.Skill ... and it's usually ~$90 @ newegg. But yeah, w/ EMCKDJC38 it's another 15% off through Sunday evening.

The timing isn't all that impressive: 9-9-9-24; I like seeing 7s and a 21, which can often be found in a similar price range w/ G.Skill Ripjaw series.

But then, this isn't for an extreme performance build, so it's plenty good enough for a very solid budget system. Not many reviews in the feedback, but it's 9 for 9 at 100% 5 eggs. Usually a Good Sign. Notice recommends to go 1.35 V instead of the rated 1.25 for stability, and overclocking this set doesn't seem a slam dunk, either.

With care, everything else for this build has come in well under the $800 target. This is a case where I'd invest ~$15 of the previous savings into stronger RAM and OC it for a bit of a performance edge, especially if I'd grabbed a 965 and OC'd that up to ~4.2 GHz with an SSD for the OS/system drive. You could find some 1800 RAM and push that up into the 2300 range under those conditions for a nice bit of a boost & be safely running the system much closer to its maximum potential.

kyubixmunky · « **Reply #65 on:** June 18, 2011, 07:33:07 AM »

really? 8 gig sniper > 12 gig ripjaws?

also is it compatible with an amd?

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #66 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:04:10 AM »

I would sooner get two of the 8GB Sniper than one of the 12GB Ripjaws, especially since your board is more likely dual channel than triple channel.

DDR3 is standard. If your AMD mobo supports DDR3 RAM, then yes, it will work. You only really have to watch out for Apple RAM, which I don't understand at all.

kitamesume · « **Reply #67 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:07:56 AM »

yea it should be able to run on an amd rig.

yea the sniper is a low voltage ram, meaning you could save more electricity, and it runs cooler plus so far there haven't been any bad reviews at all about the sniper, which is a good thing.

the price difference is about 7.5$ in total though if you want to compare. sniper 38.5$ perstick || g.skill 36$ per stick.

kyubixmunky · « **Reply #68 on:** June 18, 2011, 08:57:12 AM »

ok, just bought the 2 snipers. Now to wait for more parts...

datora · « **Reply #69 on:** June 21, 2011, 02:51:23 PM »

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Newegg just put new sale email out:

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case is $60 w/ $15 rebate, so can be had right now for $45, free shipping.

I know you're not real interested in the Samsung drives, but those just went on sale for $70 delivered, promo: EMCKDHJ22. SAMSUNG HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s

[ EDIT: This might be an alternate to the Antec case:

Rosewill DESTROYER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case for $39 w/ promo code: EMCKDHJ42 ]

AnimeJanai · « **Reply #70 on:** June 21, 2011, 07:00:09 PM »

Why not just buy an Apple and avoid all this troublesome worrying about parts? *joke*

Because you will be using SATA drives, it might be useful to have one or more of your front drive bays let you hot swap SaTa drives simply by opening a little door and ejecting the existing drive and then inserting the new SaTa drive. I do that with my old Antec P180 low-noise resonance-damping case. It's possible to fit 3 drives into two 5.25 inch bays or four laptop drives into one bay. Take a look at the single-drive version as an example:

Kingwin KF-2000
http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-KF-3000-BK-Storage-drive-black/dp/B0014XF17E

I use both KF-2000 and the KF-3000 three-drive version for years and have no complaints; I would give the KF-2000 5-stars on Amazon's rating scale due to convenience, versatility, speed (drive not on external usb 3.0 interface), and cost effectiveness. The current models have improvements learned since when I bought them years ago. Remember that unlike regular hard drives which rest on sound-dampening grommets in a P180 case, these drive rest on metal slides, so there will be more noise conducted from the hard drive. The bay door also has ventilation slots to let air be drawn past the drive to cool it and that lets a little noise out too. Of course, I close the P-180's sound-dampened front door, and that cuts the sound way down.

datora · « **Reply #71 on:** June 23, 2011, 03:44:04 PM »

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This on sale right now:

Corsair Force CSSD-F115GB2-BRKT-A 2.5" 115GB SATA II MLC SSD for $155 delivered.

It's slightly pricey against the total system budget, but that's also a very comfortable amount of drive space. It really depends on how much has been shaved down in other areas.

@kyubixmunky -- maybe go back and edit original post on page 1, list what you have actually purchased so far as you get it and what the state of your budget is ..? And, have you firmed up your exact decisions for peocessor/mobo strategy yet?

'Cause, also:

AMD Phenom II X4 970 Black Edition Deneb 3.5GHz is currently $150, and you can get a $10 gift card right now to use against another purchase. This'll only be interesting if you are ready to go with the AMD Deneb solution, and (for this item) if you want to shoot for a higher final overclock speed ... lots of folks report 4.0 GHz up to ~4.2 GHz on stock air cooler right out of the box. Looks like you can go to ~4.5 GHz if you want to push & play it a bit (upgrade cooling block), either of which would be a pretty solid performance system on the budget you've set.

kyubixmunky · « **Reply #72 on:** June 29, 2011, 06:53:46 PM »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131668&cm_re=asus_amd_motherboard-_-13-131-668-_-Product

Yeah I'm gunna swap the mobo for this one. Has an onboard graphics card that I can run crossfire with the radeon 6670, and it's actually cheaper with shipping by 3 dollars and a 10 dollar mir. And I'm probably just gunna shell out an extra 30 for the cooler master tower, so I don't need to get an extra cooler.

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Quote from: datora on June 23, 2011, 03:44:04 PM

@kyubixmunky -- maybe go back and edit original post on page 1, list what you have actually purchased so far as you get it and what the state of your budget is ..? And, have you firmed up your exact decisions for peocessor/mobo strategy yet?

Updated.

kitamesume · « **Reply #73 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:21:02 AM »

Quote from: kyubixmunky on June 29, 2011, 06:53:46 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131668&cm_re=asus_amd_motherboard-_-13-131-668-_-Product

Yeah I'm gunna swap the mobo for this one. Has an onboard graphics card that I can run crossfire with the radeon 6670, and it's actually cheaper with shipping by 3 dollars and a 10 dollar mir. And I'm probably just gunna shell out an extra 30 for the cooler master tower, so I don't need to get an extra cooler.

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Quote from: datora on June 23, 2011, 03:44:04 PM

@kyubixmunky -- maybe go back and edit original post on page 1, list what you have actually purchased so far as you get it and what the state of your budget is ..? And, have you firmed up your exact decisions for peocessor/mobo strategy yet?

Updated.

wait what? hybrid crossfire? if i remember correctly, those are limited to the HD3450/4450/4550/5450/5550(or lowest end to make it simple) GPUs plus they tend to not do much at all.

kyubixmunky · « **Reply #74 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:35:55 AM »

Oh, ok, For now, I'll stick with the 6670 then. How're Nvidia SLI configurations?

kitamesume · « **Reply #75 on:** June 30, 2011, 05:15:40 AM »

currently GTS 450 vs HD6670 is the ones in neck at price to price, sli vs cf is the same, its the game that makes the difference between the two, i`ll list the pros and cons:

GTS 450 pros: [105$]ZOTAC ZT-40503-10L GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
better at gaming than HD6670
much bang for buck than HD6670

HD6670 pros: [100$]XFX HD-667X-ZAF3 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
better at picture quality and video decoding than GTS450
runs at lower power(65watts vs 100watts)
~~runs cooler(duh?)~~ technically depends on the cooler that was placed.
HD6670 doesnt need a 6pin power cable
it idles at a wooping 15watts

if you'd notice, the GTS450 has a ton of discounts right now @ newegg and the HD6670 just got released and hardly has any discounts. give it some time and you'd see it drop to 80ish$.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6570-radeon-hd-6670-turks,2925-14.html
review about HD6670 with benchmarks against GTS450

personally, i`m not an AMD person when it comes to their GPU, though i swing by on their performance when it comes to power consumption and picture quality.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #76 on:** June 30, 2011, 06:47:02 AM »

You in Canada? Check out today's Shell Shocker.

kitamesume · « **Reply #77 on:** June 30, 2011, 08:40:09 AM »

is that an old model? still, the deal is sweet, 200$ for 256gb of SSD goodness.

datora · « **Reply #78 on:** June 30, 2011, 03:43:50 PM »

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Mid-Year Clearance announce this morning @newegg (U.S.):

- Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU SLI Ready CrossFire $59.99 after rebate.

Or,

- Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC $39.99 after promo code EMCKDGK26 plus rebate.

As discussed previously, 620 watts should be plenty for the system you're building, but 750 W would certainly put you into a considerable comfort zone of always having excess capacity, no matter what you attempt or add-in later. And, it's a Thermaltake Bronze.

[ EDIT: that Western Digital SSD (U.S. website)

- Western Digital SiliconEdge Blue SSC-D0256SC-2100 2.5" 256GB SATA II

looks like it's a brand new product being introduced. It will go on Shell Shocker Deal in a few minutes in the U.S. $489 Canadian or $499 U.S. it's normal price, on Shell Shocker $200 Canadian .... be very interesting to see what its U.S. price will be.

Never heard of this drive before, so this must be its retail debut. ]

kitamesume · « **Reply #79 on:** June 30, 2011, 04:14:47 PM »

Phenom II X4 9xx + HD6670, shes theoretically hovering at 150watts average power consumption, peaking at 300watts. a true rated 500watts should be enough imho and still be overkill.

that WD SSD seems to be an old model, looking by the transfer rates 250MB/s read 170MB/s write.

@OP be careful when choosing parts, specially with the rams and gpus, gpus tends to have either GDDR3 or GDDR5 while Rams has its timings, voltage and speed. motherboards too, with their chipsets, peripherals(lan chip , Audio chip, etc) and slots(ram, pci-e, pci, sata, etc).

are you planning to CF the HD6670 later on? if yes check the HD6790, it looks like it wasn't a rebrand but a cutdown HD6850 which supports most of what the HD6670 has to offer, including UVD3 and that sassy HQV 2.0 high score. the performance should be equal to 2xHD6670.
[140$]XFX HD-679X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6790 1GB 256-bit GDDR5

PS: hudson(FM1) boards are out, i.e. AMD's new Fusion processors's motherboard.