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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2011, 04:51:28 PM »
You can't judge an SSD's age by its transfer speeds. Especially because it's a WD - their previous SSDs all sucked. There are probably other features to it that aren't immediately obvious.

It looks promising compared to WD's older stuff, but OTOH it doesn't compare in write speed nor price to other companies' stuff. I mean, back in Feb I got a 240GB G.Skill Phoenix Pro for $410-ish. Nearly five months later, WD releases a 256GB that's just under $100 more whose R/W performance doesn't compare. Hmm. There's gotta be something else.

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2011, 04:58:11 PM »
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Well, the point being that 256 GB of SSD would still be a very impressive system drive for $200 at today's prices.  I skimmed the specs and it compares with most "normal" SATA II SSDs.  Even if your other points are valid, using this to run your OS on a budget system would still smoke any affordable mechanical drive given the size of this drive.  It could hold the OS, fully tricked out, plus every application and game imaginable, and still have room left over for that Photoshop scratch drive to edit 5 GB files.

But, it's irrelevant.  They sold out in ~25-30 minutes.  The price was $199.99 U.S.  :'(  I was in the process of calling friends so I could borrow money for one of these.  It'll be a while before a comparable deal crops up.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2011, 05:06:06 PM »
i`m just saying "it might be" an old model, considering the other manufacturers new releases has balanced RD/RW speeds, ohh well personally i`d settle for 150MB/s RD/RW transfer speeds XD

anyway, why the heck are they rolling out the AMD FM1 MoBos even though the processor isn't even in the market yet...

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2011, 05:16:54 PM »

@OP be careful when choosing parts, specially with the rams and gpus, gpus tends to have either GDDR3 or GDDR5 while Rams has its timings, voltage and speed. motherboards too, with their chipsets, peripherals(lan chip , Audio chip, etc) and slots(ram, pci-e, pci, sata, etc).


What do you mean ram and gpu? Aren't their memory types different from each other?

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2011, 05:19:50 PM »
thats the point, some of them are being tricky not listing it in the names though still listed in the "Details" or actually the names having typos =P well it happens imho.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2011, 05:26:07 PM »
is it just me or does clicking on the details button not working on newegg right now?

Edit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371049&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070111-_-EMC-070111-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17371049-L04A
Should I get this PSU, or wait for a sale on a 650W?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL070111&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL070111-_-EMC-070111-Index-_-ProcessorsDesktops-_-19103849-L01B
And I am kinda bummed that i got that 4x for 150, and for $15 more I could've gotten this six core a few days leter.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2011, 11:41:34 PM by kyubixmunky »

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2011, 12:28:05 AM »
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The Thermaltake I posted on the last page is still available for $60 after rebate.  We're getting into the exotic range of esoteric differences as far as my knowledge goes, so I couldn't tell you which edges the other out.

As discussed in the last few posts (& previously), something over 600 W is pretty substantial for your build, so the 620 W Antec for $40 probably has more capacity than you'll use.

It's really gonna come down to: 1) how much are you going to overclock?  A mild jump to 4.0 GHz from 3.5 doesn't need much, but if you want to experiment in the future and shoot for 4.3 or 4.5, then a bit more juice might be quite comforting.  Then 2) which video card you gonna settle on?  If you aggressively look for a lower power/eco option, you certainly won't need Big Juice ... but, if you want to upgrade to a monster later on (esp. and you wanna push overclocking in the future) ... then a 700-750 W may be well advised.

It's your budget, then.


On another note, I jumped back here again because I just got this case:

 - LIAN LI Lancool PC-K57 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower $49.99 delivered

on a Shell Shocker.

I also grabbed:

 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS $19.99 delivered


I'm shopping around for more bits tonight/this weekend and will post them as I grab them ... looks like I now am racing you to build a very similar system.

Yes, I'm getting the Antec 620 W PSU.

 ;) :D 8)

I wanna stay under $800 (maybe even ~$750), including a mouse (Logitech wheel Trackball) & keyboard.  One of these, but I'd rather it is hard-wired than wireless ... and cheaper; got one for $23 last year.

I'm gonna compromise a bit on the video card, betting on an upgrade early next year.  Maybe.  Also, I have the advantage that I have a 2TB Samsung drive already purchased that I can use, so that's $70 not spent that I'll invest toward an SSD.

Further, there was a deal earlier this week for 4 GB of wicked performance (G.Skill) RAM, if I can find it again, or something similar.  For $55, I'd rather have something I can push to the upper clock limits now and upgrade with another 4 GB or an 8 GB kit later for a total of 8 or 12 by Christmas or next spring.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2011, 02:04:05 AM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128510

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651

Alright I'm looking for a mobo in between those two. The first one is just wayy too much with 32gb max ram with only 4 slots, and 3 pcie(2.0) and 2 pcie slots, but the second one only has 1 pcie slot. I' just need a board similar to the second one, but with an extra pci slot so that later on I can expand and run another nvidia card in sli.

for the gpu, I'm leaning towards the gtx 460.

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2011, 04:50:16 AM »
do note that AMD is getting the upper hand in video playback and picture quality, it looks like they're concentrating on eye candies rather than frame rates which just makes sense, considering they're having a hard time beating Nvidia's FPS mad cards.

do note as well that its hard to find SLI on AMD boards =P and going dual card is not really that good, theres alot of games that doesn't go well with dual cards. though you could save some money in the initial cost and just grab another pair later. the cheapest board i found with SLI starts at 95$...
be careful with the PCI-E x16 setup as well, there are some set at 16,4 and others 8,8. the 16,4 performs worse as the card that sits at the 4 gets seriously crippled, while the 8,8 setup gets a balanced state and a minor performance reduction.

[55$]MSI 760GM-P33 AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - 2×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 1(x16)
[70$]MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x4)
[90$]ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)
[95$]ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)

Edit: ohh yea, if you really want to go with Nvidia consider the GTX 5xx series too. btw the GTX 460 has three versions, SE, 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 and 1GB 256-bit GDDR5, be careful with picking.
GTX 560(non Ti) review
[130$]Palit NE5X460EFHD02 GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
[135$]ZOTAC AMP! ZT-50402-10L GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5
[145$]XFX HD-679X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6790 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
[150$]ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU TOP/2DI/768MD5 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5
[160$]EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
[190$]GIGABYTE GV-N56GOC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5

note: putted a lone wolf in there, do mind its as fast as the GTX 460 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 edition, slower/faster in some cases.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #89 on: July 04, 2011, 09:35:57 PM »
do note that AMD is getting the upper hand in video playback and picture quality, it looks like they're concentrating on eye candies rather than frame rates which just makes sense, considering they're having a hard time beating Nvidia's FPS mad cards.

do note as well that its hard to find SLI on AMD boards =P and going dual card is not really that good, theres alot of games that doesn't go well with dual cards. though you could save some money in the initial cost and just grab another pair later. the cheapest board i found with SLI starts at 95$...
be careful with the PCI-E x16 setup as well, there are some set at 16,4 and others 8,8. the 16,4 performs worse as the card that sits at the 4 gets seriously crippled, while the 8,8 setup gets a balanced state and a minor performance reduction.

[55$]MSI 760GM-P33 AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - 2×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 1(x16)
[70$]MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x4)
[90$]ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)
[95$]ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)

For the 750a moobo, would I be able to use DDR3 1600 RAM on it? It says I can overclock to 2000, but doesn't list 1600.

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2011, 04:12:33 AM »
do note that AMD is getting the upper hand in video playback and picture quality, it looks like they're concentrating on eye candies rather than frame rates which just makes sense, considering they're having a hard time beating Nvidia's FPS mad cards.

do note as well that its hard to find SLI on AMD boards =P and going dual card is not really that good, theres alot of games that doesn't go well with dual cards. though you could save some money in the initial cost and just grab another pair later. the cheapest board i found with SLI starts at 95$...
be careful with the PCI-E x16 setup as well, there are some set at 16,4 and others 8,8. the 16,4 performs worse as the card that sits at the 4 gets seriously crippled, while the 8,8 setup gets a balanced state and a minor performance reduction.

[55$]MSI 760GM-P33 AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - 2×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 1(x16)
[70$]MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x4)
[90$]ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)
[95$]ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)

For the 750a moobo, would I be able to use DDR3 1600 RAM on it? It says I can overclock to 2000, but doesn't list 1600.

o.o "does counting from 1 to 2000 includes 1600?" so thats technically a yes.

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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #91 on: July 05, 2011, 04:48:16 AM »
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[95$]ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - 4×240pin | PCI Express 2.0 x16 2(x16, x0 or x8, x8)
For the 750a moobo, would I be able to use DDR3 1600 RAM on it? It says I can overclock to 2000, but doesn't list 1600.
o.o "does counting from 1 to 2000 includes 1600?" so thats technically a yes.

In all fairness, the specification skips all steps between 1333 & 2000 ... so, yes, it should support 1600, probably as an overclock setting and yes, the company is being slack by not specifically stating all steppings supported.

On the other hand ... @kyubixmunky - if you are serious about considering a specific board, then it's time to find it on the manufacturer's website and download all the technical specifications.  That's part of your research responsibilities before you put your money into it.  It will be an educational experience to see how good the support is for the product, like what BIOS updates & such are available, other downloads, what *.pdf's are available ... and in one of those should be a detailed walk-through of the BIOS interface, including CPU and RAM speed settings, multiplier options, etc.


Here's the state of my system build ... just got some of the basics so far, but got solid prices on them:

$49.99 - LIAN LI Lancool PC-K57 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112318

$19.99 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

$59.99 - ($39.99 w/ rebate) Antec NEO ECO 620C PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031

$59.99 - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

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total:

$189.96 ($169.96 w/ rebate)

The 1600 Sniper OCs solid & stable @1920 MHz @1.5 volts, which is a very Good Sign since I want to try & get a x4 core AMD up to 4.0 or maybe even 4.2.  A bit of a push, but should be quite do-able.

Intended is an AMD Deneb Black, hoping to grab a 965 for ~$120 like the deal I posted a couple weeks back.  I've found several very promising cooling blocks in the $30-$40 range

I'm considering a mobo very much like one of these two:

 - MSI 890FXA-GD70
 - GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5

Both have gone for ~$140-$150 on deals in the past couple months, so with new models (990fx, etc.) coming out I'm hoping one of these or one very similar will within the next 2-3 weeks or so.

Apart from that, I'm watching for any 64 GB and up SSD.  Again, that SATA III Crucial I posted a couple weeks back went for $90 and would be ideal if something like that comes around again.

Need to research more what video card to go with, but would like to find one for under $120, maybe even ~$80-$90.  I don't really do games, but I would like to play Shogun 2 ... I used to have the original and the upgrade for this version looks pretty amazing.

If I shave enough money out on good deals on all this, I may well be able to spring for a Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB drive (or a 640 or 750) at the end as a large applications drive to compliment the SSD.

Well, either that or a really premium sound card.  I love me my 24-bit *.flacs & would love to get back to recording & editing live music again some day ...
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #92 on: July 05, 2011, 05:35:16 AM »
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Here's the state of my system build ... just got some of the basics so far, but got solid prices on them:

$49.99 - LIAN LI Lancool PC-K57 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112318

$19.99 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

$59.99 - ($39.99 w/ rebate) Antec NEO ECO 620C PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031

$59.99 - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416


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total:

$189.96 ($169.96 w/ rebate)

The 1600 Sniper OCs solid & stable @1920 MHz @1.5 volts, which is a very Good Sign since I want to try & get a x4 core AMD up to 4.0 or maybe even 4.2.  A bit of a push, but should be quite do-able.

Intended is an AMD Deneb Black, hoping to grab a 965 for ~$120 like the deal I posted a couple weeks back.  I've found several very promising cooling blocks in the $30-$40 range

I'm considering a mobo very much like one of these two:

 - MSI 890FXA-GD70
 - GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5

Both have gone for ~$140-$150 on deals in the past couple months, so with new models (990fx, etc.) coming out I'm hoping one of these or one very similar will within the next 2-3 weeks or so.

Apart from that, I'm watching for any 64 GB and up SSD.  Again, that SATA III Crucial I posted a couple weeks back went for $90 and would be ideal if something like that comes around again.

Need to research more what video card to go with, but would like to find one for under $120, maybe even ~$80-$90.  I don't really do games, but I would like to play Shogun 2 ... I used to have the original and the upgrade for this version looks pretty amazing.

If I shave enough money out on good deals on all this, I may well be able to spring for a Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB drive (or a 640 or 750) at the end as a large applications drive to compliment the SSD.

Well, either that or a really premium sound card.  I love me my 24-bit *.flacs & would love to get back to recording & editing live music again some day ...
d*mn you lucky guy, wish i could have that kind of sale too. best sale i had on the same item was 95$

try this:
[80$]ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP) Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
[80$]MSI R6570-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
they're borderline able to play games at decent resolutions and settings.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #93 on: July 05, 2011, 12:40:45 PM »
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$59.99 - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
d*mn you lucky guy, wish i could have that kind of sale too. best sale i had on the same item was 95$

Well, they are still going for $75 as the "normal" price.  I was refreshing myself on current RAM offerings when I ran across this, plus a -$15 promo code.  Almost passed it up, too, because I was being a greedy fag about the 1800 and 2133 specs I was looking at.  Then I pulled my head out of my ass and reminded myself this is a system on a budget and that the performance gain of 1800 or 2000 over 1600 is completely negligible for all practical experience.

Besides, these will get overclocked a bit just as an incidental effect of pushing the CPU up into the range I want ... and they should be exceptionally stable @1.5 v, or plus a touch.  The lifetime warranty on them is a solid bonus, too.


try this:
[80$]ASUS EAH6570/DI/1GD3(LP) Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
[80$]MSI R6570-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
they're borderline able to play games at decent resolutions and settings.
HD6570(and crossfire) & HD6670 review

Thank you very much for that.  I walked through all the newegg video cards Sat night & yesterday, up to about $180, just reading specs & feedback to get a feel for what's available right now.  Video cards are one area I just haven't spent much time for the last couple years because my needs in that area have been quite modest.  The preliminary numbers look very good on those.  Having both DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.1 support is one of my criteria for my GPU.

I'll admit I am prejudiced toward nvidea because I want the somewhat smoother support under linux.  One of the primary reasons for this build is to play with virtualization: I want to get WinXP and Win7 running under linux.  I want it on my resume, and I want to see how well they perform; this is one reason I'm justifying/attempting a system with this much horsepower.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #94 on: July 05, 2011, 01:41:57 PM »
i meant the same ram (sniper 8gb kit) is selling for 95$ worth here on my country, shipping in is out of my league, it adds a hefty 100$ even for a gram of sand, its the shipping fees and taxes.

well yes, actually theres only 4 GPUs in mind that fits borderline playable which are:
[68$]ECS NGT240-512QI-F GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 bad news, they're starting to clear this one out, theres only two items left on their list.
[100$]ASUS ENGT440/DI/1GD5 GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
[80$]MSI R6570-MD1GD3/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3
[100$] MSI R6670-MD1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5

some notes: the GT440 and HD6570 (if both are using GDDR5) have the same performace.

if they ever plan to release the GT540 then that would be your best bet for the "minimum", next stop is GTX550 Ti or HD6790.

some more notes: HD6750 and HD6770 are rebranded HD5750 and HD5770. the HD6790 is a cutdown HD6870, using the same barts chip.

Edit: if you plan to buy a sound card, try to consider buying a decent S/PDIF decoder as well, also known as a D/A(digital to analog) converter, DAC for short.
Edit: [120$] Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Edit2:
@datora
considering you already have a case,burner,psu and ram for about 190$ without rebate.
add this:
so thats about 665$ in total, OR grab an HD6670 or maybe a GTS450? for 100$ and save another 45$ and that would be 620$
[100$](70$ after rebate)ZOTAC ZT-40503-10L GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - nastiest deal i`ve seen so far, but their rebate is bad.


@OP
considering you already bought some of the stuffs you wanted, i.e. phenom II X4 970,case and sniper 8gb kit, you get something like this.
this is where you're heading.

note: you can still take your costs down to 900ish by just getting a GPU under 150$ like the HD6790 or GTX 460.
this is how you should've went to be cost effective.
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EDIT3: FM1 CPU are out:
[140$] AMD A8-3850 Llano 2.9GHz 4MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU
[120$] AMD A6-3650 Llano 2.6GHz 4MB L2 Cache Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU

Llano build i've come up so far:
btw these Llano are slower than the phenoms XD thats why AMD failed big time, nice HTPC though.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #95 on: July 07, 2011, 04:27:05 PM »
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New E-Blast sale newsletter out today.  Several interesting items:

 - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz for $119.99 w/ promo code EMCKCKC24

I was hoping for this.  Interesting that $130 is now the "standard" price for these ... but, still, I got my wish and picked up a rocking CPU for $120 delivered.  :D 8)


 - OCZ Solid 3 SLD3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III for $114.99, plus -$20 w/ rebate; potentially $94.99 for 60 GB.

It is one of those asinine "reward cards" with no option to receive a check, and it forces you into an American Express cardholder agreement to receive and use the card; the agreement specifically states that they will harvest your personal information to use 'within privacy legislation' and will retain it for two years.  I so fucking hate these shitty "reward" cards ... nothing more than a tracking system to resell your personal information around the world.

Plus several more deals probably worth looking at.


And the AMD A-series CPU/GPU processors are being introduced: http://promotions.newegg.com/AMD/11-1834/index.html
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #96 on: July 07, 2011, 04:46:55 PM »
i already linked the A-series.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250003
my hunch for it being an old model was right, i think, it got deactivated after the massive sale.

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Doesn't come with key

Pros: None at all.

Cons: It said it came with a key to unlock a core, but i didn't. I do not recommend buying this product, since it is WAY to small, and it doesn't come with the key!
i loled.

Edit: [100$] Corsair Nova Series 2 CSSD-V60GB2 2.5" 60GB SATA II(SSD)
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #97 on: July 07, 2011, 10:40:23 PM »
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250003
my hunch for it being an old model was right, i think, it got deactivated after the massive sale.

You've got some weird logic to draw that conclusion. It obviously sold out; Newegg deactivates stuff that's out of stock and that has an unknown ETA for new stock. Look at the dates on the reviews, or even just the reviews themselves.

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« Reply #98 on: July 08, 2011, 02:23:22 AM »
lol weird, last time i checked that SSD had 8 or something reviews, half of them complaining ppl would sell them on ebay and it didnt get a limit on stock per person.

Edit: i didnt know china had newegg.
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Re: Help with building a tower
« Reply #99 on: July 10, 2011, 05:55:23 AM »
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Thought I'd drop an update.

Current Status of parts acquired so far:

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I think I might pass on the SSD for a short time.  Capacities and speeds are increasing rapidly right now, and prices are dropping fast.  But, the real Deal Changer was finding the 750 GB WD Caviar Black for $50.  It's a full 6 Gb/sec SATA III model ... so I think I'm gonna stick with that while I assemble the system and burn it in.  I'll gather all the performance stats using that drive and then (hopefully) will obtain an SSD within a month or so and migrate the stable build over to it, and get a very nice performance comparison.

As far as SDs, the Mushkin name brand has caught my eye ... but they remain SATA II devices that are still a bit small for the price.  However, their performance & reliability might be worth it, especially if SATA III versions come available &/or I can grab their 80 GB edition for under $100 somehow.

Additionally, the Western Digital Shell Shocker that happened last week demonstrates that more players are entering the field ... so, mid-August or ~01 Sept may be a better time to pull the trigger on an SSD.


So, apart from that, I am down to a final 2 two big items: the mobo and the video card.  I'm lusting very hard over this mobo:

 - GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD5

I just passed on it for $184 delivered, and now it's back up to $198 ... but it's a bit too much for budget.  It was going for $145 about 10 or 12 weeks back, so I'm hoping that deal will come around again & I'll jump on it then.  I'm not married to this board, but I definitely want one with very similar configuration, and the price ceiling is $150 with hopes for something closer to ~$130-ish.

The video card will wait until the mobo is settled since surplus funds will determine the category of GPU I can target.  It seems I may be able to go as high as $120 or $130, but that is not assured yet.


I saved the cooling block for last.  bAsically, I settled on this one:

 - XIGMATEK BALDER SD1283 120mm ACK-I5361 for $44.

It's right near my price range (wanted <$40 but was willing to go $50).  However, it has what looks like a solid rebate process to bring it down to $24, so that's a closed deal now; absolutely unbeatable.  It will have vastly excess cooling capacity; it will support a x6 core Thuban running at 4+ GHz if I get an opportunity to upgrade someday, and even then it has capacity for even a good bit more performance.  Ran across an overclocker who claims he's got an AMD 1100 running at 4.4 GHz with this block ...

And, it's a HUGE block, but the case I acquired has copious room inside, so not an issue for me.  More importantly, it's a relatively quiet cooling block, at maximum 28 dB when running full out.  Other blocks I looked at run ~20 or 23-25 dB, with some around 20.  But 28 dB is still well quiet, especially from inside a large steel case ... so, the trade-off for performance and price is worth a slight bit of increased noise.

But, then I ran across this new bit of tech just hitting the market:

 - XIGMATEK Prime SD1484 (CAC-SYHH4-U01) 140mm Sleeve Bearing (with copper axle)

And, glorious pictures/full specs on this artwork:

 - Prime SD1848 at manufacturer's website

CanNOT justify $68 for this.  But, if it should happen to go on special, or become eligible under their rebate, plus free shipping ... oh man I'll be all over that but fast!   ;D  [ oh yeah, EDIT: forgot to mention the 18 dB max. noise on this model.  That's the kind'a quiet I'm talkin' about! ]


With all that, I have expectations of running my Deneb 965 x4 core up around 4 GHz as the steady/stable configuration, with a decent shot of getting it up to 4.2 GHz if I feel a real need for that extra bit.  In addition, the RAM should lope along at least at 1800 MHz, if not around 2000 MHz.  With a decent, mid-range GPU this should be more than 50% over-powered for nearly anything I'll seriously want to run for at least a year.  If I can top it off with an SSD, I should be good to go for four to five years (including a few upgrades, as needed) before my next build.

We Shall See.   ;) 8)
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