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kitamesume:
true at that, but i did mention that theres the option of software raid, which eliminates the need of buying a raid card though losing some performance.

@fohfoh
either is fine, but if you're planning on buying a much better system than the P4 then P4 to NAS and new one to HTPC is a much better move.

right now, according to the shops that i`ve been seeing around.

desktop:
intel's cheapest dual core is the pentium E5700 or the Celeron E3300, pricing under 60$.
Intel's cheapest single core is the Celeron 430, pricing under 40$.
AMD's cheapest dual core is the athlon II X2 240, pricing under 60$.
AMD's cheapest single core is the Sempron 140, pricing under 40$.
Intel's motherboard LGA775 averages to about 60$ at most.
AMD's AM3 motherboard averages to about 55$ at most.

low power desktop:
Intel's low power desktop, is the Atom D525+(ion)Motherboard, pricing under 150$
Intel's low power desktop, is the Atom D525+(non-ion)Motherboard, pricing under 100$
AMD's low power desktop, is the AMD E-350+Motherboard, pricing under 150$

theres alot to choose from, and theres the option of 2nd hand.
though the thing i`m concerned about the bobcat and atom is that most of them have limited slots to accommodate that much extensions. most of them only hosts 1PCIe(either a x16 or x1). and about 4sata slots.

ohh and to give some clues how slow USB 2.0 based HDD are, a 100GB file takes about an hour to transfer. though way better than usb flashdrive crap that takes a quarter of an hour just to transfer 4gbs of file.

kitamesume:
aw crap, hit quote instead of mod, meh. kind of wish theres a delete option.

Freedom Kira:

--- Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 03:39:34 AM ---Does it make more sense to turn an old PC into an NAS or just to build it from scratch with cheap parts? I mean for instance, an older tower with a P4 (upgrading the proc and other components if necessary?) vs setting up a cheap dual core AMD as suggested by someone on the earlier page.

Reason I'm asking is more just a theoretical question... Since I see to recall reading quite a bit about many users having P4 HTPCs.

Would it make more sense to turn the P4 into an NAS and build a new HTPC vs Keep P4 as HTPC and build a NAS? 

The builds I was looking at were all dual cores and stuff like that.

--- End quote ---

Depends on the socket. But, in general, older processors do use more electricity to produce the same processing power as newer processors, since new stuff keeps getting more and more efficient, and die sizes keep shrinking. By now, I would guess that a dual core Atom is roughly equivalent to or a bit better than a P4 with hyperthreading from maybe 5-6 years ago, but the Atom uses far less electricity. So it's a tradeoff. How much money do you want to save in the long run (energy) vs. the short run (processor)?

sapsa:
true.

But buying:
ATOM/BobCat + Raid Cards (so you get more HDDs connected) + Lower PSU = less energy bill

or

Get old PC (need to have sata's - not like mine) + buy Raid Cards (cheaper if you got more satas on mobo) + Higher PSU = higher energy bills

But what diffrent we are talking here. 25W vs 80W. 80-25 = 55Wh, 1kWh at my place is 0,12$ so its 0,0066$/h its (*24*30=) 4,752$ per Month

But we need to keep in mind that making NAS from old parts make durability of our NAS lower. Less risk for hdd failed is with newer parts.

Anyway, im looking for cheap rack Raid case :) ;p

halfelite:

--- Quote from: sapsa on June 18, 2011, 10:07:23 PM ---
Anyway, im looking for cheap rack Raid case :) ;p


--- End quote ---

Norco cases are as cheap as they come. there internal 12 slot is 79bucks. the 20 slot case i just bought was 300 but its external hot swap design.

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