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« Reply #180 on: May 24, 2013, 12:01:39 AM »
cool looks like if sony manages to do the smart thing and ease up on the licensing and always on garbage and they should stomp the xbox out

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« Reply #181 on: May 24, 2013, 12:03:14 AM »
Hopefully.

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« Reply #182 on: May 24, 2013, 03:46:03 PM »
I will make a true decision once i see both consoles with game play at e3. My money for now is still on the xbox one over the ps4 just because the ps3 was a big let down to me.

Again always on who cares im not one to get up and unplug my consoles every time im done using them. Given both will have bluray drives all the more reason to keep them connected for bd-live content and updates.

 Im more interested in the full body kinect then the motion just picking up the controller points.

Backwards compatibility we have been through countless times not sure again why everyone is up in arms. If you want to keep the games you already have keep the console as well. If Anything 10+ years from now you will hook it up and play to relive the glory days. Until you hook up your dreamcast to play night of the living dead only to realize the guns only work on crt monitors  :'( . Granted some around here might be to young to have lived through cartridge games where there was no backwards compatibility at all

As for used games I could see the hard points on that one. me personally never bought a used game and never sold a game I collect all my past games and box them up and store them in the attic. im sure when my son is older he would have a field day playing the old systems. talking trash on how bad the older 8bit systems looked. But he will learn the hard way of the old days without being able to save your game either.

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« Reply #183 on: May 24, 2013, 04:40:38 PM »
I will make a true decision once i see both consoles with game play at e3. My money for now is still on the xbox one over the ps4 just because the ps3 was a big let down to me.

Again always on who cares im not one to get up and unplug my consoles every time im done using them. Given both will have bluray drives all the more reason to keep them connected for bd-live content and updates.

 Im more interested in the full body kinect then the motion just picking up the controller points.

Backwards compatibility we have been through countless times not sure again why everyone is up in arms. If you want to keep the games you already have keep the console as well. If Anything 10+ years from now you will hook it up and play to relive the glory days. Until you hook up your dreamcast to play night of the living dead only to realize the guns only work on crt monitors  :'( . Granted some around here might be to young to have lived through cartridge games where there was no backwards compatibility at all

As for used games I could see the hard points on that one. me personally never bought a used game and never sold a game I collect all my past games and box them up and store them in the attic. im sure when my son is older he would have a field day playing the old systems. talking trash on how bad the older 8bit systems looked. But he will learn the hard way of the old days without being able to save your game either.
Good luck with Xbox One ... and to anyone who wants to purchase it. Let us hope Microsoft does the right choice and reverses those retarded features.


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« Reply #184 on: May 24, 2013, 05:35:37 PM »

Good luck with Xbox One ... and to anyone who wants to purchase it. Let us hope Microsoft does the right choice and reverses those retarded features.

What feature dont you like and why everyone just says I hate that I hate that with no reason. And explain if you are a person that unplugs there xbox after each use. or just thought of not being able to unplug is what gets you.

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« Reply #185 on: May 24, 2013, 05:57:47 PM »
What ? No reason ? Do you have mental problems ?

1.You need to be connected to internet .
2.No used games
3.TV

Why would I want to watch tv on xbox ? It's just one click on my tv remote to get from game to tv channel FFS

Since I always uploading something I play SP games on my console since most often I get connetion timeout from server if I try to connet to PSN (since I'm uploading)
Now my PS3 is at friends house and it's not conneted to the internet since we only play 1vs1 Mortal Combat

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« Reply #186 on: May 24, 2013, 06:00:03 PM »

Good luck with Xbox One ... and to anyone who wants to purchase it. Let us hope Microsoft does the right choice and reverses those retarded features.

What feature dont you like and why everyone just says I hate that I hate that with no reason. And explain if you are a person that unplugs there xbox after each use. or just thought of not being able to unplug is what gets you.
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« Reply #187 on: May 24, 2013, 06:18:54 PM »
I think halfelite is looking at the brighter side of potential suffering.

True there aren't as many positives as there are negatives right now but that's all perspective. I completely agree that the no used games is pretty low of Microsoft but they're just making it closer to PC than we'd all like with the limited licenses. Sucks it's only one license per console. If it was three-five it would be more reasonable but I understand that it's business.

I don't mind the "always on" as in most likely it will be like "It's going to be connected to the internet so you can get constant updates with stuff already on your smartphone or PC." I don't think it's as bad as we're probably making it.   

The Kinect issue is troubling but it will be interesting to see what it adds to the table if anything at all. Exciting ideas have already been passed around and it's going to be a matter of what the Kinect will actually be doing.

The TV thing is iffy. Most people have some sort of cable or satellite provider so unless Microsoft is including this as a free service with Gold membership or a Platinum Disco Membership this is a terrible idea. I think it's safe to say though that the Xbox One isn't a gaming console but rather an entertainment hub. The only true gaming console imo is the WiiU but that's a whole other point.

I have high hopes for these consoles because I don't want to lose hope that one company will get it right.

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« Reply #188 on: May 24, 2013, 06:48:37 PM »
The only consoles I have hope for are handheld at this point. No need for a paperweight that has shitty specs compared to PC. Might as well get myself a handheld console with great specs for it's size instead.
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« Reply #189 on: May 24, 2013, 07:04:16 PM »
What ? No reason ? Do you have mental problems ?

1.You need to be connected to internet .
2.No used games
3.TV

Why would I want to watch tv on xbox ? It's just one click on my tv remote to get from game to tv channel FFS

Since I always uploading something I play SP games on my console since most often I get connetion timeout from server if I try to connet to PSN (since I'm uploading)
Now my PS3 is at friends house and it's not conneted to the internet since we only play 1vs1 Mortal Combat

The tv through another interface is actually a hot item right now google tv has been trying it for a year. And im sure as soon as apple comes out with a tv they will try the same thing. Its not just about watching tv through the xbox.

Think of it like how many times have you sat watching something and think I wonder what else they have been in. with tv going through the xbox it gives you the options to put your movie in a smaller screen or bring up an overlay to do other stuff on top of your movies. Now Im not sure this is the direction MS will take it but I hope they have an option like this it has a lot of real world uses. I think some people are just to closed minded for this and they think big whoop I can watch tv through the xbox nothing new I can just change sources to my dvr and watch tv.  Now im not saying MS will make something useful out of this but there are a lot of possibilities The 10 foot UI scene is huge and expanding rapidly. 

You say you dont play multiplayer but is your current system always connected to your network even while uploading? or are you saying you never plug it in at all? As you mention you friend does not have an always on connection but you do at home so again that option would not effect you since you had your ps3 plugged in.

Again used games I could see how that effects some i was never a used game buyer in the first place so for me its no big deal but I see that effect it could have.

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« Reply #190 on: May 24, 2013, 07:16:08 PM »
Well, personally I don't watch TV, but I know that the smart TVs out there have all the functions Xbox offers and some more. They even connect to internet already. So what you are getting here are overlapping services.
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« Reply #191 on: May 24, 2013, 07:26:15 PM »
Well, personally I don't watch TV, but I know that the smart TVs out there have all the functions Xbox offers and some more. They even connect to internet already. So what you are getting here are overlapping services.

That is somewhat true. But smart tv lacks the options to overlay there smart apps onto of video. Most smart tv's behave in separate modes. you watch tv but then you have to launch the smart services and lose all tv. At least its how both my Samsung and Panasonic operate. What xbox can bring is seamless tv with apps. The HDMI in port on the xbox takes your standard tv video from your dvr and then can layer other things on top of it. And with HDMI CEC everything would still use just one controller. Smart tv's have came a long ways but they are still clunky to use sometimes.  I really think this is the last generation of stand alone consoles as you say smart tv's are getting more and more built in and more and more offloading is done to a cloud systems. PlayStation already said the ps4 is not backwards compatible but they are looking to bring ps3 games onto a cloud for a cloud gaming service to play old ps3 games on the ps4. so they are getting there cloud based gaming system lined up. Xbox also mentioned a similar aspect that they can offload some of the computing power to there cloud. so while they are not bringing full games over they plan to do some offload computing with it.
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« Reply #192 on: May 24, 2013, 07:57:56 PM »
So are you just fan boying? Or do you actually think there's logic to the things you're saying?


I mean, no judgement from me until it comes out, maybe Microsoft will smash it, but the features they HAVE announced have been disappointing.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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« Reply #193 on: May 24, 2013, 08:04:44 PM »

Good luck with Xbox One ... and to anyone who wants to purchase it. Let us hope Microsoft does the right choice and reverses those retarded features.

What feature dont you like and why everyone just says I hate that I hate that with no reason. And explain if you are a person that unplugs there xbox after each use. or just thought of not being able to unplug is what gets you.
New Report. It's not a rumor. Enjoy.

You haven't been following this thread, have you? Because you wouldn't ask this question in the first place.

35 pounds?  :o That bullshit. I haven't purchased a game for that much money in...well the last console game I bought back in spring 2010. In any case, that's insane.

And yes, I'm guessing he's a fan boy.

By the way, my internet has been up and down for the past few days (more down than up) and so yeah, XB1 can such my dick.

By the way, for those who haven't heard any news and are too lazy to read anything, below is a summary of the XB1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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« Reply #194 on: May 24, 2013, 08:20:29 PM »
Downwards incompatibility is also quite peculiar since their marketing bullshit praises the X1 as a system that lets you to do everything, "All your entertainment, All in One." But where are the old games, huh?

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« Reply #195 on: May 24, 2013, 09:19:13 PM »
So are you just fan boying? Or do you actually think there's logic to the things you're saying?


I mean, no judgement from me until it comes out, maybe Microsoft will smash it, but the features they HAVE announced have been disappointing.

No fan boy but find it amusing when people can bash something over and over then one someone has ideas for the system they call it fanboy.  I will more then likely end up buying the ps4 as well. But for some of the things people are knocking on the xbox one I dont think they see the potential it can have. Like the tv feature there is real logic there hence why google tried it, apple will try it and microsoft has been trying to tap the tv market for 15 years now most of you probably dont remember UltimateTV that was a stb running windows the spawn of MSN TV. If you can tap the market correctly and with a working system there is a lot of possibilities. Now Im not saying MS will do it right but it has the tools to make some of it work. 

For the tv and kinect portion just to name some ideas. When you are watching a movie or tv through xbox and you stand up to leave it could auto pause for you, I know most will say but i could just hit pause button or maybe I did not want to pause in the first place but its there. The kinect sensor could listen for background noise and automatically adjust the sound level for said watching time.
From a commercial stand point you could be watching something and just have to click a button to go to a webpage on your tv to buy what was on the commercial just then in one simple click. even my tivo now I can order pizza with it. You could be watching a movie and say imdb show movie so and so and bring up the imdb info in an overlay or smaller window ontop of your movie that is playing.

Always connected while sucks its the future, And the faster people learn this the faster they will move on. both IPTV and movie streaming and cloud gaming is the future, hard copied media is on the way out. You can try to stay in the past with never being connected but im sure the same people that complain about always connected keep there computer connected 24/7 have there cell phone connected 24/7 yet because its out of the norm for a game system they revolt against it.

The used game portion I will say blows there is nothing more in it then a revenue stream for Microsoft. But its not the first or last company that tried to nickel and dime us.


Even the creator of gears of word said it best he thinks sony has a chance if they get "online connectivity and share feature right, " all the next gen market hinges on is what the online connectivity brings. So if you think always connected is a bad thing you are going against what will set the light for the next winner. We know both systems play games and we can assume just like in the past both system will play identical games at the same PQ so it comes down to what extra can it bring to the table.

Just to also mention because of my work and hobbies I deal in a lot in the 10foot market I have seen which way the trends are going and who is making 10foot UI's to bring it to a tv. And so far the only thing holding it back was a system to run it on. So for me some of it might be because im looking at it more as a complete system rather then just something im going to play a FPS on. And sony has kept there online options and what it plans to bring besides games under wraps.
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« Reply #196 on: May 24, 2013, 10:05:00 PM »
Always connected while sucks its the future, And the faster people learn this the faster they will move on. both IPTV and movie streaming and cloud gaming is the future, hard copied media is on the way out. You can try to stay in the past with never being connected but im sure the same people that complain about always connected keep there computer connected 24/7 have there cell phone connected 24/7 yet because its out of the norm for a game system they revolt against it.

This is the bit of your post I take issue with here. Always-online will only become the future if people let it be the future. If customers refuse to accept it, then companies will stop pushing it.

Also, as someone who complains bitterly about always-online, yes - I do try and keep my PC connected to the internet when it's turned on, and obviously I don't disconnect my phone from the mobile network because that would defeat the point of having it (and is actually really difficult to do). The problem is, no matter what I try and do, I can't always be online. It's actually not possible.

I have a high-end 60Mb fibre connection (apparently better than 74% of the UK), and even so I suffer periods when the internet is not working properly. Once the router broke and I went 3 days without internet at all. More often I just get the occasional 5-minute period of downtime every now and then, or more frequently periods of extremely high pings and low speeds. In a month or two, I'll be going back to a much slower, much more unreliable ADSL connection. And a few months after that, I'll be moving somewhere where I'll only have access to a university-provided internet connection which would most likely just totally block all connections from an Xbox entirely at all times (which is what my current university does in its student accommodation).

So if I decide I want to play the game I've paid good money for, I want to know that I will be able to play it. Whenever I want, at any time, in any place, whether the internet connection is working or not. Sure, the ability for me to go online while playing and get access to updates, multiplayer, a community, etc is great - I'm all for that. And if those functions are unavailable at times when I'm not online? That's not a problem. But I still want to be able to play the rest of my game at those times.

Also, this doesn't apply to the Xbox obviously, but is very important for PC games - I want to be able to play them on my laptop on the go. On the train, the plane, in the car, on a boat, wherever I happen to be. I'm going to be relying on games to keep me entertained during the 11-hour flight to Japan in a few months for example, and one thing I can be sure of is that I won't have internet access. Another example of why always-on is flawed.

When internet access is actually required for the product to function properly (such as an MMO), then obviously I'm fine with that. It's part of the deal, and there's a good reason for it which benefits me as a consumer, it's not just an unnecessary restriction. For example, I'm quite OK with the fact that I can't use my phone (as a phone) when I don't have a connection to the network - it is obviously a fundamental requirement of being able to phone people, which is the entire point of a phone, so it makes perfect sense. If my phone forbade me from using any apps (such as to play solitaire, or read an ebook) unless I had a stable network connection, then I would be very angry, because there is absolutely no good reason for it.

So yeah. It's not a question of wanting to not be online (although people should have that right), for me it's a question of not physically being able to be online at all times.

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« Reply #197 on: May 24, 2013, 10:15:55 PM »
^^^ great answer and one I respect I can now view were your issues lie and I see the issue you will encounter.  And can agree it's not a favorable circumstance for you and the xbox to get along.

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« Reply #199 on: May 24, 2013, 10:48:23 PM »
Lol, he is mad.  ;D
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