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halfelite:
--- Quote from: metro. on May 24, 2013, 07:57:56 PM ---So are you just fan boying? Or do you actually think there's logic to the things you're saying?
I mean, no judgement from me until it comes out, maybe Microsoft will smash it, but the features they HAVE announced have been disappointing.
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No fan boy but find it amusing when people can bash something over and over then one someone has ideas for the system they call it fanboy. I will more then likely end up buying the ps4 as well. But for some of the things people are knocking on the xbox one I dont think they see the potential it can have. Like the tv feature there is real logic there hence why google tried it, apple will try it and microsoft has been trying to tap the tv market for 15 years now most of you probably dont remember UltimateTV that was a stb running windows the spawn of MSN TV. If you can tap the market correctly and with a working system there is a lot of possibilities. Now Im not saying MS will do it right but it has the tools to make some of it work.
For the tv and kinect portion just to name some ideas. When you are watching a movie or tv through xbox and you stand up to leave it could auto pause for you, I know most will say but i could just hit pause button or maybe I did not want to pause in the first place but its there. The kinect sensor could listen for background noise and automatically adjust the sound level for said watching time.
From a commercial stand point you could be watching something and just have to click a button to go to a webpage on your tv to buy what was on the commercial just then in one simple click. even my tivo now I can order pizza with it. You could be watching a movie and say imdb show movie so and so and bring up the imdb info in an overlay or smaller window ontop of your movie that is playing.
Always connected while sucks its the future, And the faster people learn this the faster they will move on. both IPTV and movie streaming and cloud gaming is the future, hard copied media is on the way out. You can try to stay in the past with never being connected but im sure the same people that complain about always connected keep there computer connected 24/7 have there cell phone connected 24/7 yet because its out of the norm for a game system they revolt against it.
The used game portion I will say blows there is nothing more in it then a revenue stream for Microsoft. But its not the first or last company that tried to nickel and dime us.
Even the creator of gears of word said it best he thinks sony has a chance if they get "online connectivity and share feature right, " all the next gen market hinges on is what the online connectivity brings. So if you think always connected is a bad thing you are going against what will set the light for the next winner. We know both systems play games and we can assume just like in the past both system will play identical games at the same PQ so it comes down to what extra can it bring to the table.
Just to also mention because of my work and hobbies I deal in a lot in the 10foot market I have seen which way the trends are going and who is making 10foot UI's to bring it to a tv. And so far the only thing holding it back was a system to run it on. So for me some of it might be because im looking at it more as a complete system rather then just something im going to play a FPS on. And sony has kept there online options and what it plans to bring besides games under wraps.
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: halfelite on May 24, 2013, 09:19:13 PM ---Always connected while sucks its the future, And the faster people learn this the faster they will move on. both IPTV and movie streaming and cloud gaming is the future, hard copied media is on the way out. You can try to stay in the past with never being connected but im sure the same people that complain about always connected keep there computer connected 24/7 have there cell phone connected 24/7 yet because its out of the norm for a game system they revolt against it.
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This is the bit of your post I take issue with here. Always-online will only become the future if people let it be the future. If customers refuse to accept it, then companies will stop pushing it.
Also, as someone who complains bitterly about always-online, yes - I do try and keep my PC connected to the internet when it's turned on, and obviously I don't disconnect my phone from the mobile network because that would defeat the point of having it (and is actually really difficult to do). The problem is, no matter what I try and do, I can't always be online. It's actually not possible.
I have a high-end 60Mb fibre connection (apparently better than 74% of the UK), and even so I suffer periods when the internet is not working properly. Once the router broke and I went 3 days without internet at all. More often I just get the occasional 5-minute period of downtime every now and then, or more frequently periods of extremely high pings and low speeds. In a month or two, I'll be going back to a much slower, much more unreliable ADSL connection. And a few months after that, I'll be moving somewhere where I'll only have access to a university-provided internet connection which would most likely just totally block all connections from an Xbox entirely at all times (which is what my current university does in its student accommodation).
So if I decide I want to play the game I've paid good money for, I want to know that I will be able to play it. Whenever I want, at any time, in any place, whether the internet connection is working or not. Sure, the ability for me to go online while playing and get access to updates, multiplayer, a community, etc is great - I'm all for that. And if those functions are unavailable at times when I'm not online? That's not a problem. But I still want to be able to play the rest of my game at those times.
Also, this doesn't apply to the Xbox obviously, but is very important for PC games - I want to be able to play them on my laptop on the go. On the train, the plane, in the car, on a boat, wherever I happen to be. I'm going to be relying on games to keep me entertained during the 11-hour flight to Japan in a few months for example, and one thing I can be sure of is that I won't have internet access. Another example of why always-on is flawed.
When internet access is actually required for the product to function properly (such as an MMO), then obviously I'm fine with that. It's part of the deal, and there's a good reason for it which benefits me as a consumer, it's not just an unnecessary restriction. For example, I'm quite OK with the fact that I can't use my phone (as a phone) when I don't have a connection to the network - it is obviously a fundamental requirement of being able to phone people, which is the entire point of a phone, so it makes perfect sense. If my phone forbade me from using any apps (such as to play solitaire, or read an ebook) unless I had a stable network connection, then I would be very angry, because there is absolutely no good reason for it.
So yeah. It's not a question of wanting to not be online (although people should have that right), for me it's a question of not physically being able to be online at all times.
halfelite:
^^^ great answer and one I respect I can now view were your issues lie and I see the issue you will encounter. And can agree it's not a favorable circumstance for you and the xbox to get along.
megido-rev.M:
For the matter at hand.
AceHigh:
Lol, he is mad. ;D
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