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nstgc:
The biggest problem with your statement is that a console will not, within the foreseeable future, replace a computer. Nor will a tablet for that matter. Also, I seriously doubt that we will have hard core gaming TVs, as specs on those things would have to vary quite a bit, and the market isn't large enough. Besides it doesn't seem that advantageous.
halfelite:
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 08:40:15 PM ---The biggest problem with your statement is that a console will not, within the foreseeable future, replace a computer. Nor will a tablet for that matter. Also, I seriously doubt that we will have hard core gaming TVs, as specs on those things would have to vary quite a bit, and the market isn't large enough. Besides it doesn't seem that advantageous.
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The tv would not do the hardcore gaming so no need for hardware. Everything would be offloaded to a cloud infrastructure. Sony is saying they are testing cloud gaming of ps3 games on the ps4 for backwards compatibility. So if they can offload ps3 games over a cloud in a couple years anything could be possible. There are pro's and con's to a setup like this. But for someone like MS and SONY you drop the hardware profit loss, you can make all your money either running the cloud systems, Both have extensive libraries for titles, and ads. Its not ment to fully replace a PC because at this point int time you really cant. But in a couple more years it will be possible. IF you look at the pc licensing structure its already on its way to full cloud environments for enterprise class software. where most places are just using dumb terminals, and offloading everything to a datacenter or there own cloud based structure.
The main thing holding back is not everyone has fast enough connections to the web for this. But with LTE push going strong at 13mbit that puts most people in range.
just to further sony is thinking the same thing here is a funny patent from sony.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/30/sony-patent-is-hilarious-terrifying/?iid=obnetwork
Bob2004:
The internet is not going to be anywhere near fast enough in most of the world for cloud gaming to be much good for most people for many years yet, maybe even decades. Even the fastest consumer-grade connections have around 20ms latency, which is nowhere near responsive enough to game on. And most people do not have connections even that fast. There have been a few attempts, such as OnLive, but these have all ended in failure so far.
Also, think of this: assuming consoles were replaced with cloud gaming, and assuming at any one time you might have, say, one thousand people playing a game like Call of Duty (a big underestimate, most likely). That means the cloud server has to be able to run one thousand instances of Call of Duty, in parallel, at the same time, with no lag. Stop and think how much computing power would be required to achieve that. Do you think that's going to be economical any time soon?
Not to mention issues with downtime etc, much like the latest Simcity suffers.
nstgc:
The problem isn't serve side, thats easy especially if you can load a single instance of a massive game engine into the system and then capture the view of that large system at multiple points.
The problem is the internet connection. I tried PlayOnline before, and found the lag to be terrible and the video quality to be even worse. I also like to know that I can play my games after they are no longer supported.
Also, halfelite, you failed to address my primary complaint. We are not debating gaming TVs but rather the XB1. Are you trying to dodge me, because you don't have any good points?
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 09:19:47 PM ---The problem isn't serve side, thats easy especially if you can load a single instance of a massive game engine into the system and then capture the view of that large system at multiple points.
The problem is the internet connection. I tried PlayOnline before, and found the lag to be terrible and the video quality to be even worse. I also like to know that I can play my games after they are no longer supported.
Also, halfelite, you failed to address my primary complaint. We are not debating gaming TVs but rather the XB1. Are you trying to dodge me, because you don't have any good points?
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Oh yeah, at some point games would start being designed specifically for that kind of platform and would essentially become single-player MMOs. But for any existing games, and for games created by smaller developers without the resources required for that, it would be impossible. Not to mention the sheer number of different games released for any given console, it would get difficult. And I doubt developers would be too impressed if console makers tried to make them host the servers for their own games themselves.
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