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halfelite:
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 09:19:47 PM ---The problem isn't serve side, thats easy especially if you can load a single instance of a massive game engine into the system and then capture the view of that large system at multiple points.
The problem is the internet connection. I tried PlayOnline before, and found the lag to be terrible and the video quality to be even worse. I also like to know that I can play my games after they are no longer supported.
Also, halfelite, you failed to address my primary complaint. We are not debating gaming TVs but rather the XB1. Are you trying to dodge me, because you don't have any good points?
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As he said the server side is the easy side and it could already be done on that side even today. When you are rendering a single multiple game on one server the method and computing power is reduced as the system just has to create one environment then move the game player around. Where single consoles each unit creates the environment followed by the user. And again correct residential internet is the only thing really holding it back. One of the companies I do DB work for as moved to a full cloud environment and I was very impressed with it, And after talking with some of the people that work for the cloud company about what applications work and what does not the answer was pretty much if someone puts up the money to make a better compression engine and the pipe on the other end is big enough anything could be possible.
And im not dodging I dont think I understood what you were asking. Unless you mean what about the xbox one is advantageous to Microsoft? If so the easiest and biggest to point out would be advertising money. The second would be if it requires xbox live always that is a huge revenue stream. Strike deals with amazon,hulu,netflix,lovefilm, to get people to consider a move to your system and the biggest is pick up the casual gamer market. Your farmville, candycrush, all the small free games that make huge money on advertising. Roku tried it by bringing angry birds to the roku, appletv tried it by using airplay to mirror the ipad screen to appletv devices.
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--- Quote from: Bob2004 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:02 PM ---
Oh yeah, at some point games would start being designed specifically for that kind of platform and would essentially become single-player MMOs. But for any existing games, and for games created by smaller developers without the resources required for that, it would be impossible. Not to mention the sheer number of different games released for any given console, it would get difficult. And I doubt developers would be too impressed if console makers tried to make them host the servers for their own games themselves.
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They would not host there own server unless they wanted to. If I remember battlefield 3 already does its own servers so its already going the direction. Not to mention you can even rent a bf3 server to host your own games on for xbox and ps3 already. they charge like $25 a month so it can also be a revenue stream for a game company. " oh you want to rent a host for bf3 for your clan sure pay up"
newy EDIT: Don't doublepost...
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: halfelite on May 28, 2013, 09:42:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on May 28, 2013, 09:25:02 PM ---
Oh yeah, at some point games would start being designed specifically for that kind of platform and would essentially become single-player MMOs. But for any existing games, and for games created by smaller developers without the resources required for that, it would be impossible. Not to mention the sheer number of different games released for any given console, it would get difficult. And I doubt developers would be too impressed if console makers tried to make them host the servers for their own games themselves.
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They would not host there own server unless they wanted to. If I remember battlefield 3 already does its own servers so its already going the direction. Not to mention you can even rent a bf3 server to host your own games on for xbox and ps3 already. they charge like $25 a month so it can also be a revenue stream for a game company. " oh you want to rent a host for bf3 for your clan sure pay up"
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You misunderstand. I mean the cloud servers on which their game runs entirely. If users could only play games over the cloud, and not on their own consoles, developers (or publishers) would have to host servers running the entire game themselves, if Microsoft/Sony/whoever don't provide hosting for them. Not just multiplayer servers.
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 08:33:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Slysoft on May 28, 2013, 08:25:58 PM ---To compete with the xbox one, I just purchased a tv tuner for my pc. Now I can easily swap between tv and gaming via alt+tab /innovation
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Holy shits that's brilliant, but can it game as well as an XBox One, because that thing is going to have amazing specs.
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Specs are not everything.
As it is presented atm, it's nearly pointless to get a XBox One if you're a PC gamer already.
nstgc:
--- Quote from: megido-rev.M on May 28, 2013, 11:23:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 08:33:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Slysoft on May 28, 2013, 08:25:58 PM ---To compete with the xbox one, I just purchased a tv tuner for my pc. Now I can easily swap between tv and gaming via alt+tab /innovation
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Holy shits that's brilliant, but can it game as well as an XBox One, because that thing is going to have amazing specs.
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Specs are not everything.
As it is presented atm, it's nearly pointless to get a XBox One if you're a PC gamer already.
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That was sarcasm.
megido-rev.M:
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 11:24:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: megido-rev.M on May 28, 2013, 11:23:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: nstgc on May 28, 2013, 08:33:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Slysoft on May 28, 2013, 08:25:58 PM ---To compete with the xbox one, I just purchased a tv tuner for my pc. Now I can easily swap between tv and gaming via alt+tab /innovation
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Holy shits that's brilliant, but can it game as well as an XBox One, because that thing is going to have amazing specs.
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Specs are not everything.
As it is presented atm, it's nearly pointless to get a XBox One if you're a PC gamer already.
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That was sarcasm.
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Point still stands.
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