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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #960 on: August 21, 2013, 07:41:33 PM »
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #961 on: August 21, 2013, 07:42:39 PM »
I will say Microsoft Has a decent amount of launch titles and more exclusive titles going up for launch against the ps4. You can see the big push for indie content at launch on the ps4 just not sure it will draw in people to buy it. Although 4 titles I doubt anyone cares are exclusive.  Everyone said PS4 was so focused on games yet its looking like the wrong type of games at least for launch titles

PS4:
– Driveclub
– Killzone
– Knack
XBone:
– Crimson Dragon
– Dead Rising 3
– Fighter Within
– Forza
– Killer Instinct
– Ryse
– Zumba <-- doubt anyone cares
- Lococycle <-- doubt anyone cares
- Zoo Tycoon <-- doubt anyone cares
- Golf <-- doubt anyone cares
Are you comparing games now? Here are the PS4 games. That list is almost always updated by somebody.

You look at it from the wrong angle. "Look how many more exclusive games at launch" you say. "Look how few exclusive games there are!" is what I would respond with.

Never before has there been so much cross platforms games as it is at present time, I can count those exclusives on my hands, do you really think this will be the selling point? Launch or no launch, I know in the future there will be Japanese games out there that will never be released for Xbone, besides neither Xbone or PS4 exclusives look all that fantastic. Also this is the launch, I am way more interested in the continuing development. Besides, the real deal will be when they release it for the Japanese market with those types of games popping up. After all obviously they market casual shit for COD kiddies at the moment.

PS: don't ever, EVER mention Forza as an exclusive: it's a blatant, obvious Gran Turismo clone. They were even douchbags enough to name it in Italian, just like GT. Besides it was said that GT6 is coming for PS3 for now, but there may be coming out a PS4 version later. I know which one I'd rather play, after all Gran Turismo was a part of my childhood.

All games are clone of another game when it comes down to it. But eventually a clone can surpass the original.  Not saying Forza is better then GT in any way but it could eventually lead to a better game. Do you hate forza because it copied GT or dont like its game style? I myself dont play much racing games. so this is a serious question. Almost any game now a days you can find game style, game play, aspects of the game that have been copied from another game.
All games are clones of games of many games of so many games. No one fucking cares about that. And Forza is the biggest clone of GT series. Just stating out a fact. I respect Forza since that's one of their main hits in the XB1. But as a gamer in general? Let me think once again. GT5 vs. Forza 4?

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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #962 on: August 21, 2013, 07:52:46 PM »

All games are clone of another game when it comes down to it. But eventually a clone can surpass the original. 

No, never. This has been said over and over again. A game can not surpass another game by simply cloning it. That is why WOW and COD "killers" do not exist, yet so many pretenders were contesting for that. And no, games take elements which they copy from each other, but clones in this definition are the games that are cynically copying ALL aspects of another game.

And yet again you misunderstand my point. It's not about better or worse, it about it not being a really an exclusive game, because it was created for the single purpose of getting a GT experience to Xbox.
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #963 on: August 21, 2013, 07:56:06 PM »
There are also dozens of indie games which are launch exclusives. A few on X-Box One, a lot more on PS4.

PS4:

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Driveclub
FIFA 14
Just Dance 2014
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO Marvel Superheroes
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Skylanders: Swap Force
Watch Dogs
Basement Crawl
Blacklight: Retribution
Contrast
Counterspy
DC Universe Online
Doki-Doki Universe
Flower
Hohokum
Minecraft
N++
The Pinball Arcade
Planetside 2
Pool Nation Extreme
ResoGun
Super Motherload
Tiny Brains
War Thunder
Warframe
Assault Android Cactus
Fez
Final Horizon
Guns of Icarus Online
Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number
N++
Rogue Legacy
Samurai Gunn
Starbound
Switch Galaxy Ultra
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth
Velocity 2X
Volume
Wasteland Kings

X-Box One:

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
FIFA 14
Fighter Within
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Killer Instinct
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Lococycle
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA LIVE 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Peggle 2
Powerstar Golf
Ryse: Son of Rome
Skylanders: Swap Force
Watch Dogs
Zoo Tycoon
Zumba Fitness: World Party

I know a lot of people who care about Lococycle, more than Ryse at any rate.
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #964 on: August 21, 2013, 08:01:22 PM »
War Thunder ...  I want to see more gameplay of that. The last few seconds of the trailer looked like a gameplay, I almost screamed in aweness.


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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #965 on: August 21, 2013, 08:05:49 PM »
you can play warthunder on PC you know? It's interesting in the full sim mode, but the arcade mode is worse than world of warplanes. Back when I tried it there was no groundcombat to compare to world of tanks, but if you want tank battles I'd say go for the original red orchestra (unless you want a real tank sim)

I care more for lococycle (whatever it is) than for ryse, due to ryse ruining what it meant to be a roman soldier... *rant* They only had two pila! */rant*

I also don't count Zumba as an exclusive since it's already out for wii (unless they revolutionized the game or something)

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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #966 on: August 21, 2013, 08:18:29 PM »

No, never. This has been said over and over again. A game can not surpass another game by simply cloning it. That is why WOW and COD "killers" do not exist, yet so many pretenders were contesting for that. And no, games take elements which they copy from each other, but clones in this definition are the games that are cynically copying ALL aspects of another game.

And yet again you misunderstand my point. It's not about better or worse, it about it not being a really an exclusive game, because it was created for the single purpose of getting a GT experience to Xbox.

So in turn is Driveclub not an exclusive because its a copy of drive2?


  I myself see it as long as game play is different its not the same. I see it as forza bridges the gap. between real racing sim and just having fun. I myself Found GT way to hard I did not play it much but I had trouble driving how I wanted to drive and staying on course. Forza for me was easier to at least stay on the course but I only played it for a few days as well.   

No idea about lococyle but all i know is someone needs to make a new Excitebike I loved that game on NES

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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #967 on: August 21, 2013, 08:19:47 PM »
– Killer Instinct
Gotta say this is a NEGATIVE for the system.

5USD PER CHARACTER...and you start out with 1.


Yeah...fuck you MS.

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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #968 on: August 21, 2013, 08:42:50 PM »
– Killer Instinct
Gotta say this is a NEGATIVE for the system.

5USD PER CHARACTER...and you start out with 1.


Yeah...fuck you MS.
...... I thought it was 1 USD per character? ... 5?!?! Microsoft upgraded to a new name. A jew name - Flopsoft.


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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #969 on: August 21, 2013, 08:49:06 PM »
– Killer Instinct
Gotta say this is a NEGATIVE for the system.

5USD PER CHARACTER...and you start out with 1.


Yeah...fuck you MS.
...... I thought it was 1 USD per character? ... 5?!?! Microsoft upgraded to a new name. A jew name - Flopsoft.
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #970 on: August 21, 2013, 10:48:57 PM »
5$ is what Injustice: Gods Among Us is charging for its DLC character extras. I guess it's a standard now?
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #971 on: August 21, 2013, 11:17:03 PM »
5$ is what Injustice: Gods Among Us is charging for its DLC character extras. I guess it's a standard now?
Here's the difference:
They're DLC.
Injustice started with 24 characters, not 1.

Think of it this way:
What if Injustice was F2P, you started out with 1 character, but each character after that costs 5USD?
That 23x5=115USD.


Right now the new KI has 7 characters, confirmed, 6 you have to pay for.
That's 30USD, for that small of a roster...in this day and age?

But, if they keep increasing the roster, (which would be logical) to at least 11 (from the original games) that's 55USD.

And, again, this isn't counting other DLC like character skins, stages, and who knows what else.

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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #972 on: August 22, 2013, 01:03:31 AM »
7 characters? Seriously?

*Goes to Wikipedia*

Chief Thunder, Cinder, Fulgore, Glacius, Jago, Sabrewulf, and Spinal

None of them are women... I don't know, isn't that pretty much a requirement these days? Sure, KI only had one female character in 1994, I never played the sequel because fighting games on the N64 were the antithesis of fun but apparently it had two or more female characters added to its roster, and now in 2013 they're down to none? I'll assume, just to be generous, that they plan to add one or more later at your expense.

Still... even ignoring my general sentiments regarding the marginalization of women in video games, from a PR standpoint you'd think they'd at least want someone for fan-service.

Besides, you're actually sticking with Chief Thunder not-Rare? I mean, yeah, stereotypes have been a big part of fighting games for easy character design, but he was over the top even by those silly standards.

I mean, fuck, look at him



The mohawk, the tomahawks, the paint, the fact that he's glowing red -- all the other characters are eldrich abominations or modern-ish looking humans, even Jago is just Jean Claude Van Damme in generic Asian-ish attire...so why make this racist anachronism? Seriously, why?

In comparison, here's Nightwolf



Not great, but not quite so... gauche. He's human looking and the native paraphernalia compliments his look rather than just looking so goofy it hurts. Furthermore, there's his backstory, if you bother to read it, which is far more developed to make him less of a cartoon and more of a character. Stereotype? Sure. Just more intended as a fond representation than bargain-bin cheap exploitation. Nightwolf could be a superhero written in the last ten years, whereas Chief Thunder would be in the 60's... and be a villain.

Come to think of it, why not just stick with your monster theme and ignore humans? It worked for Darkstalkers for the most part. Take out the good Chief and Jago, throw in Riptor and maybe invent a new goddamn character based off of vampires or something, and *poof* you're done.

I don't mean to rag on it, but I don't see imagination here, just brand recognition and fairly uninspired use of an IP which was novel at the time.
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #974 on: August 22, 2013, 02:25:08 AM »
So in turn is Driveclub not an exclusive because its a copy of drive2?

Never played them, but form the way you mention them it seems to be the case, yes. Here is the thing in the old days there were many "clones" in order to address the exclusivity on a platform, nowadays almost everything is cross platform. That is the main point I was trying to make. Exclusive games... the ones that truly give an exclusive experience are very rare and PC is the platform that has most of those.
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #975 on: August 22, 2013, 04:13:51 AM »
So anyone think we will see a new Midnight Club?
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« Reply #976 on: August 22, 2013, 04:35:28 AM »
So anyone think we will see a new Midnight Club?
I'd like a Midnight Club 2. I hate the rest of the other games. Totally stupid and non-entertaining. I got rid of the other copies except for II.


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« Reply #977 on: August 22, 2013, 04:37:09 AM »
I wouldn't mind a new one. :-\
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Re: Xbox One [MS reversed their opinions ... KIND OF?!]
« Reply #979 on: August 23, 2013, 01:04:50 AM »
Yet ANOTHER reason for me NOT to get a Xbone.