Author Topic: Laptops used as Desktops (Read 2587 times)

auskingdom · « **on:** June 15, 2011, 05:10:43 AM »

I removed my battery from my laptop and leave it connected to the power point. My laptop is 6gb of ram i7 processor and it's quite good for my standards. If i leave it on for 24/7 or for a long period of time, will it affect the laptop in anyway? Like stuff up the hardware? Also, it doesn't overheat - but i think it's because it's winter in Australia.

donald1 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2011, 05:30:40 AM »

i dont think there's anything wrong with that, i never turn my laptop off unless i need to for updated and crap. i like to seed back to bbt as much as i can. only thing is, i do suggest putting the battery back in. sometimes the power goes out during a storm where i live.... and sometime for no f-ing reason at all other than to piss me off, anyway, i like to turn off my laptop properly. i have mine set to safely shut down after one hour of running on only the battery.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2011, 06:33:46 AM »

I disagree with putting the battery back in, unless blackouts are hella frequent in your area (like it is in donald1's case). Leaving the battery in the laptop all the time, when you plug in the laptop all the time, wears down the battery because you keep it charged up.

bloody000 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2011, 11:11:04 AM »

store it in the fridge(not freezer). I'm serious. Li-ion batteries degrades faster at high temperature, the base of your laptop is always warm, sometimes hot. Li-ion batteries degrades faster when it's fully charged, so discharge it to around 45% before putting it in the fridge. Li-ion batteries also degrades whether you use it or not.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2011, 02:34:10 PM »

That too. Also make sure you seal it in a plastic Ziploc bag to keep moisture from getting at it. I keep my battery in a Ziploc freezer bag in a side storage area in the fridge door.

Micharus · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2011, 02:41:59 PM »

Quote from: auskingdom on June 15, 2011, 05:10:43 AM

I removed my battery from my laptop and leave it connected to the power point. My laptop is 6gb of ram i7 processor and it's quite good for my standards. If i leave it on for 24/7 or for a long period of time, will it affect the laptop in anyway? Like stuff up the hardware? Also, it doesn't overheat - but i think it's because it's winter in Australia.

There shouldn't be any problem with doing that.

It's no different to what I do with my desktop, it's on 24/7, unless I actually have to go out for a long period of time.

As for keeping it cool, just make sure the cooling vents are clear and if possible go and buy one of those laptop cooler stands, I don't know what they are called.

I've seen them in two versions, one with fans, one without.

All they do is sit on your desk and you place the laptop on it. It holds the laptop clear of the desk, increasing airflow, which in turn helps keep the laptop at a 'better' temperature.

Other than that you shouldn't have any problems.

fohfoh · « **Reply #6 on:** June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM »

Everyone is speaking about the battery.

IF your laptop overheats, expect stuff to slow down on the software side. AKA: Lag
Expect at times your wifi may begin to cut in and out (though, I don't believe this was an issue in draft N)
If airflow is restricted, it may become slightly loud.

tomoya-kun · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2011, 05:33:33 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM

Everyone is speaking about the battery.

IF your laptop overheats, expect stuff to slow down on the software side. AKA: Lag
Expect at times your wifi may begin to cut in and out (though, I don't believe this was an issue in draft N)
If airflow is restricted, it may become slightly loud.

Just set up temperature monitors so that you don't go above 95. Mine runs a stable 82c while folding.

Freedom Kira · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2011, 03:54:09 PM »

Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM

Everyone is speaking about the battery.

Was kinda the first thing OP mentioned, so it doesn't really seem that unusual.

mgz · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2011, 11:14:22 PM »

Quote from: tomoya-kun on June 16, 2011, 05:33:33 AM

Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM
Everyone is speaking about the battery.

IF your laptop overheats, expect stuff to slow down on the software side. AKA: Lag
Expect at times your wifi may begin to cut in and out (though, I don't believe this was an issue in draft N)
If airflow is restricted, it may become slightly loud.

Just set up temperature monitors so that you don't go above 95. Mine runs a stable 82c while folding.

82c is fucking burning hot

fohfoh · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2011, 12:46:52 AM »

Quote from: mgz on June 16, 2011, 11:14:22 PM

Quote from: tomoya-kun on June 16, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM
Everyone is speaking about the battery.

IF your laptop overheats, expect stuff to slow down on the software side. AKA: Lag
Expect at times your wifi may begin to cut in and out (though, I don't believe this was an issue in draft N)
If airflow is restricted, it may become slightly loud.

Just set up temperature monitors so that you don't go above 95. Mine runs a stable 82c while folding.
82c is fucking burning hot

Concur. When mine ranges in the 80-90C range... that's BAD.

50-60 is "average" per speedfan on this laptop. My dell, 40-50 is HOT.

mgz · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2011, 12:54:25 AM »

yea like 90s for your laptop would put ur cpu at like 100c which is IMO gonna be shortening the life of that thing quite a bit

bloody000 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2011, 07:55:36 AM »

a junction temperature 90C is fine. Intel measures Tj, AMD OTOH measures Tcase.

Mistgun_Zero · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2011, 08:48:50 AM »

Well I have been using my laptop as a desktop for two years straight and I leave it on for a week most of the time (mainly cause my download speed sucks and I have to keep it on for days to download animes).

My battery is removed and in this two years I have never faced any problems, no overheating, no lags or crashes due to overuse. But I make sure to keep it in balanced or power saver mode, doing so will switch off the screen when not in use (I have changed to 3 min, after which screen switches off) and also save power and load on the your laptop.

Just so you know mine's a bit old configured (was the best when I bought it though) so it's no doubt newer confg. laptops will be much more safer and reliable.

for your info my laptop runs on Core2 Duo 2.0 Ghz processor along with 4gb RAM. It's a LG R510 model (whilte laptop ~yay, looks in my laptop was the second priority after functionality

).

Note : Additionally if you want you can get the laptop cooler (or a pad whatever it's called) that way you don't even have to bother about overheating and all other crap even while heavy gaming, though I never used one cause I never required one.

Kyrdua · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2011, 10:43:06 AM »

Using a vintage laptop that was abused for 6 years
read: on 24/7 in airconditioned room (with occasional breaks) for the first 4 years
used in distro hopping for a few months 2 years ago.

yeah, i can pretty much say leaving your laptop on doesn't do much. Mine's low
spec but i don't notice any degredation of it's already weak performance. but yeah,
it's good to remove the battery but others already explained the pro's/con's on that.

kitamesume · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2011, 11:05:49 AM »

theres only two things to look after when leaving any kind of PC 24/7, which is heat and errors. so if your PC is running pretty cool and doesn't get any errors at all then sure, actually theres no problem leaving a laptop/desktop on 24/7. ohh but refrain from running it at 100% 24/7, thats asking too much.

fohfoh · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2011, 01:50:05 AM »

Week at a time is ok as long as you turn off for a few hours afterwards to let it cool off.

I personally use the following:

In the past: Up to months at a time without turning off torrenting:

Intel Centrino 1.73Ghz, 512 MB ram

Currents:

Sony Vaio T7200 @ 2.0Ghz C2D 3 GHz ram - Probably currently runs like 2-3 days without turning off every 2-3 weeks (Used laptop fans)
Dell Inspiron 6400 T7200 2.0 Ghz C2D 2.5 Ghz ram - At one point ran up to 2-3 weeks at a time without turning off.

morrefule · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2011, 04:09:01 AM »

You should have a problem running without a battery but some newer laptops because of the way the hardware is configured you have to leave the battery in or it will smoke the charging hardware in the laptop. I've seen it happen a couple of times believe it or not, and it can do major damage to the mobo.

Just look in to it and you should be fine 98% of the time there is nothing to worry about

tomoya-kun · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2011, 05:57:53 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on June 17, 2011, 12:46:52 AM

Quote from: mgz on June 16, 2011, 11:14:22 PM
Quote from: tomoya-kun on June 16, 2011, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: fohfoh on June 16, 2011, 02:42:02 AM
Everyone is speaking about the battery.

IF your laptop overheats, expect stuff to slow down on the software side. AKA: Lag
Expect at times your wifi may begin to cut in and out (though, I don't believe this was an issue in draft N)
If airflow is restricted, it may become slightly loud.

Just set up temperature monitors so that you don't go above 95. Mine runs a stable 82c while folding.
82c is fucking burning hot

Concur. When mine ranges in the 80-90C range... that's BAD.

50-60 is "average" per speedfan on this laptop. My dell, 40-50 is HOT.

I've been running this laptop 24/7 with folding@home at about 82-85c continuously and it hasn't failed yet.

NaRu · « **Reply #19 on:** June 18, 2011, 06:15:04 AM »

Keep the laptop running at 80c all the time will kill it's life span. It's hard to say how much life was killed because of the heat.

About keeping the laptop on for 24/7. The laptop wasn't design to keep running all the time. So parts inside may over heat. Plus the internal fans may fail sooner. Today laptops are better then older ones. If your laptop is newish then you should be fine but if your laptop isn't doing anything then turn it off. You will be saving energy anyways. Why keep something up and running if you aren't downloading or seeding.