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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2011, 04:57:43 PM »
Well hp pavilion series have a lot of problem up to dv6, stuff like getting unbelievable hot, burning the battery down after 6-12 months of use.

Don't know if dv7 have improved the series :-/
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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2011, 06:35:14 PM »
The amount of heat also depends on how much money the fulfillment house decided to save.  The lower-end models are typically manufactured in mainland china.  For instance, you may have the same fullfillment factory in china construct essentially the same laptops for three different clients: toshiba, compaq, and HP.  The board layouts and small features might be different, but it's basically the same heat dissipation for that model.  Fullfilment factory designs go low cost with an all plastic bottom which unfortunately holds the heat in and will make the fan run a lot if not all the time (unless it is totally idling).  In comparison, my 1920 x 1080 Dell laptop has a metal plate on bottom that gets hot.  I use a 2-fan cooling pad which of course cools that metal plate down and thus the laptop's own fans come on every now and then mostly due to the ATI GPU card inside.  At least they never need to run at the "fast" speed level (that dell laptop has two separate fans: one for the CPU and one for the GPU).  The world awaits a thermally-conductive plastic that is strong enough to not crack when used in the shell of the laptop.  It'd be kind of neat if the entire body of the laptop got hot since a cooling pad would really work wonders then.

Dell was smart with the battery placement and put it on the side closest to the user (underneath the touchpad).  This kept it away from the hot part of the laptop and improves battery lifespan.  Sam's Club leaves their laptops on, so I bet you could bring in a folding@mars program on a USB stick and quickly install it to run.  They have free WiFi at my Sam's Club courtesy of AT&T so you could go shopping in the club and then come back to see which models ran hottest or made the most noise.  You prolly want to turn the program off because it would be unfair for al those laptops and PCs at Sam's Club to be adding counts to your total.  *ahem*

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2011, 06:06:47 AM »
Well hp pavilion series have a lot of problem up to dv6, stuff like getting unbelievable hot, burning the battery down after 6-12 months of use.

Don't know if dv7 have improved the series :-/

I have an HP DV6 i7 and I have no problem with it for heat. As long it has a flat surface it wont get too hot.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2011, 06:18:13 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2011, 06:24:58 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2011, 07:52:40 AM »
If you put a laptop on four D-cells it will be much cooler than on a flat desk. works better than many cooling pads.
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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2011, 10:59:09 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

oh! i wish shipping was free or i`d take that junk instead, i could salvage the screen and the touchpad, plus i could pretty much salvage the components on the motherboard too.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2011, 07:39:48 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

Don't they auto-shutoff at some point?

As an experiment to make my noisy macbook quieter, I disconnected/removed the fan.

Needless to say, that was really stupid.  Processor hit 110c and it auto shut off.


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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2011, 03:26:50 PM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

Don't they auto-shutoff at some point?

As an experiment to make my noisy macbook quieter, I disconnected/removed the fan.

Needless to say, that was really stupid.  Processor hit 110c and it auto shut off.

At 110c the processor could have melted so that kind of auto-shutdown is kinda useless.  You just got lucky you did not melt it is all.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2011, 01:20:49 AM »
LOL! solders melt at 200+c how could solid alloy melt at 110c, theres nothing plastic on the processor either. some IC(specially the ones used on amplifiers) can handle up to 145c working temperatures.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2011, 01:30:57 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

Don't they auto-shutoff at some point?

As an experiment to make my noisy macbook quieter, I disconnected/removed the fan.

Needless to say, that was really stupid.  Processor hit 110c and it auto shut off.

WHY!!!??? Why would anyone do that?

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2011, 10:49:31 AM »
Don't know why you're all so worked up. I'm still using a 5 y/o C2D T7200 with a Geforce Go 7300, I don't remember the last time it hasn't run at close to full tilt or the last time it's bluescreened. It gets up to 90-95C on load. Granted the battery's dead (I'd be surprised if it wasn't) but it's still chugging along very well. Been physically cleaned out multiple times too.

Actually about that, clean out your laptops people. At least clear the vents of dust and if you're able to, open up any covers and clean out the intake fans near the CPU/GPU and maybe reseat them with some new thermal paste. If you'll void your warranty doing so then don't, if you don't have warranty go ahead.  :P

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2011, 04:33:20 PM »
LOL! solders melt at 200+c how could solid alloy melt at 110c, theres nothing plastic on the processor either. some IC(specially the ones used on amplifiers) can handle up to 145c working temperatures.
OK, melt was the wrong word to use, but my point still stands.  You run a working proc at that kind of temp and it will stop working.  Pop, fry, burn, melt does not describe what happens, but they all mean the cpu is dead.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2011, 07:43:48 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

Don't they auto-shutoff at some point?

As an experiment to make my noisy macbook quieter, I disconnected/removed the fan.

Needless to say, that was really stupid.  Processor hit 110c and it auto shut off.

WHY!!!??? Why would anyone do that?

It made the machine very quiet for when I was gaming and doing work.  No sound at all!


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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2011, 08:22:57 AM »
At the very least, put a giant aluminum heat sink on it... or look at what the Macbook Air does.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2011, 12:03:43 AM »
oh! that reminds me, avoid playing a laptop on top of a soft platform like bed, pillow, etc. they tend to block the vents!

You would of think thats common sense but my ex girlfriend fried her dell because she left it on her bed and fell asleep. (the laptop ended up under the covers...) She came up to me and ask me to fix it. I took out the HDD and ram. Then I threw the laptop in the garbage and told her you need to buy a new one. She didn't like my answer

Don't they auto-shutoff at some point?

As an experiment to make my noisy macbook quieter, I disconnected/removed the fan.

Needless to say, that was really stupid.  Processor hit 110c and it auto shut off.

WHY!!!??? Why would anyone do that?

It made the machine very quiet for when I was gaming and doing work.  No sound at all!

I don't understand why noise is a big problem with a laptop. If you can hear the laptop when gaming then you need to turn up the volume of your game. Use external speakers or headphones. My desktop has 6 case fans, 1 CPU fan, and 2 GPU fans. My system is very loud...reason why I have a 500 watt surround sound system.

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Re: Laptops used as Desktops
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2011, 07:12:10 PM »
The fan noise is quite variable with laptops.  In general, Dell consumer or latitude models that are frequently sold to businesses and corporations are pretty good about noise.  At full speed on BOTH fans (my laptop has two separate fan locations), the fan noise is the low-pitched *whirring* noise which is not very loud and easy to ignore.  I've heard Apples and Toshiba units with high-pitched fans and that higher pitch is harder to ignore.  My dell at full fan volume cannot be heard outside my cubicle, but of course there is the usual background noise of the office to cover it up.

Is the fan just an individual fluke "screamer"??  My main fan is parallel to the desktop surface which allowed Dell to use a nice big fan with longer fanblades.  It's cheaper to have the fan perpendicular to the desktop but that means the fan is very tiny with very short fanblades.  Those are the ones that have the high pitched sound.