Battlefield 3

[Supai]

The game kept crashing on me contantly (most likely due to my computer sucking so much) and having to go to a server to change your damn settings is a horrendous pain in the ass (and you can't change settings when you're dead (really fucking stupid)).

Can't say that I had a pleasant experience.

[Sosseres]

The game kept crashing on me contantly (most likely due to my computer sucking so much) and having to go to a server to change your damn settings is a horrendous pain in the ass (and you can't change settings when you're dead (really fucking stupid)).

Can't say that I had a pleasant experience.

I can agree I didn't like my beta experience. Havn't pre-ordered it.

[TMRNetShark]

Dodging my question are you?


Do you like closing down your client and starting it up again ever 4 minutes until you find a good server?

It's kinda obvious that no one does. That's why I didn't explicitly say I do not like it. Will I be bothered by it to the point where my veins blow up with rage like you? Not at all.

You guys are having a lot of problems with the beta? Huh, I havn't had the game crash on me yet. The PS3 version crashed once, but I think it was because the host left right at the beginning of the next game.

[AceHigh]

hmm... interesting:

Menu petition

[TMRNetShark]

hmm... interesting:

Menu petition

Actually, one good point that is brought up is if Battlelog was down. Would we not be able to see a server list at all? What if Anon or some other hacker group went ahead and DDoSed the server?

So not only are paying customers feeling like they are being hurt by EA with this browser based server list... but hacker groups will think they are helping us by hacking the servers and making sure that NO ONE can play the game.

That's the only legitimate concern I have now with this Battlelog.

But until that day comes, I'm indifferent about it. It'll help with a in-game server list... but it's 1 month away from release. Complaining about it now probably won't help.

[AceHigh]

Obviously console versions have in game options and server lists. I bet if the legitimate customers bug developers long enough, they may port that part of the game from the consoles. Should not be so expensive since the system exists, besides having both the in game menu and browser based "jump quickly into a game" will make everyone happy and DICE can afford making everyone happy for their high reputation.

What is sad is that 2 of my friends cancelled pre-orders already, so I am worried that I will run out of people that I can visit and watch how the full version turns out.

[TMRNetShark]

Obviously console versions have in game options and server lists. I bet if the legitimate customers bug developers long enough, they may port that part of the game from the consoles. Should not be so expensive since the system exists, besides having both the in game menu and browser based "jump quickly into a game" will make everyone happy and DICE can afford making everyone happy for their high reputation.

What is sad is that 2 of my friends cancelled pre-orders already, so I am worried that I will run out of people that I can visit and watch how the full version turns out.

Are PC players that stubborn to not use a browser to play the game online? If DICE decides to keep it the way it is and no one buys the game whatsoever and it fails... it'll be a bitter sweet victory for the PC crowd because then another big FPS will just concentrate on consoles.... (CoD being the other big one)

It's DICE/EA's fault for doing this and having a browser based game setup... and it's making PC players just so mad. Both sides seem dug in... but EA knows/thinks the game will sell well regardless of what the hardcore thinks/wants. Am I still buying the game? Yes... I can deal without a in game menu and to be honest... I really don't mind battlelog. It's not as bad as what people are making it out to be... but what do you expect with something new?

I mean, I remember a lot of people butthurt about when Steam was required to play Half Life 2... now it's not even mentioned when a game requires you to make a Steam account. Change is good, if your PC can't handle the extra resources of origins plus battlelog plus the game itself... well... get a new PC.

[Supai]

Are PC players that stubborn to not use a browser to play the game online?

Yes.

I mean, I remember a lot of people butthurt about when Steam was required to play Half Life 2... now it's not even mentioned when a game requires you to make a Steam account.

And that pisses me the fuck off. I hate it when I buy a retail box and I still have to install fucking Steam.


Yeah, decided not to pre-order, this thing is giving more headache than enjoyment.

[AceHigh]

Tell me, what is new and good about battlelog? What awesome features does it have that couldn't be in-game? You have been defending it a lot without giving it a single merit.

[TMRNetShark]

Tell me, what is new and good about battlelog? What awesome features does it have that couldn't be in-game? You have been defending it a lot without giving it a single merit.

What it does right:
It connects stats, forums, and a social network aspect. Battlefield is about multiplayer and the interaction with other people in an online world. So what happens? You have a game that you play in the regular Frostbite engine BUT adds the same element that we have here at BakaBT. I know that you yourself enjoy social networking (kick and moan about it, but because you post here.. you are part of that social networking). So lets say you want to organize an event where it's all Snipers only/Knife only... would you rather boot up a game, log in, then try to willfully use an ingame browser? No, you'd rather use a web browser that was built to do that sort of thing.

Then, lets say you played a really good game and your teammates were all fantastic. You want to play with them again, right? Except, you have to run to do something else (cause real life matters). Easy. Later on, you can just log on to Battlelog and send all those people in that match (supposing it was your last match) a friend request. Better yet, a lot of us have smart phones... just send it through your smart phone.

Let's say your at school or at work and you want to brag to your friends/co-workers of your scores. EASY. Just bring up Battlelog and you have every single stat that you would want to brag to your friends about. "Yeah, my KDR is killer!" or "My accuracy is shitty... but I just like shooting a lot of bullets!" It's all right there in the browser. Lets say you want to set up a game with all your friends tonight but can't get to your Battlefield 3 installed computer until later one... just log on, type up a fast message to all your friends and PRESTO! Done.

The arguments against Battlelog: server switching is a pain and what happens when Battlelog is down?
(The argument of key bindings and graphical settings are a one time thing and you don't have to do them every game)

So by adding an in-game menu would do a couple of things. Server switching will still log you out of your current game, dumb the map from memory, pick your next game, and then load up the map of that server. Except now people will be under the impression that they still are "within the game engine".... no... you are in the game menu. I don't think Frostbite 2 engine has a "menu" option... so "browser" menu is essentially the same as "in-game" menu. Either way, you are still going to have to load the maps whenever your switch a server... don't believe me? You don't have to, it's just people butt hurting because something is different even though it WORKS.

The second problem has a little more validity. What happens when Battlelog is down? No one will be able to sign into the website and play single player during the downtime without an in-game menu, right? If there was an option to launch the game's singleplayer from the desktop without needing to go through Battlelog would be great. If I HAVE to log into Battlelog to play singleplayer AND it's down... I'm gonna have a problem.

So yes, for the most part, Battlelog is a nice addition. If everyone wants to go back to 2001 games... well... go install games from 2001 and have fun. I'll go ahead and play the new games with new features and new ways to connect with other people in my favorite multiplayer games.

[AceHigh]

I know that you yourself enjoy social networking (kick and moan about it, but because you post here.. you are part of that social networking).

I also enjoy having sex, that doesn't mean that I want to have sex with everyone out there. No, If I want to post on baka forums, I do that, If I want to blow someone's head off in a game, I do that. Why am I forced to mix those two things? What's the point? to have a friendly chat with people you are knifing in the back?

So lets say you want to organize an event where it's all Snipers only/Knife only... would you rather boot up a game, log in, then try to willfully use an ingame browser? No, you'd rather use a web browser that was built to do that sort of thing.

Neither. Protip: you use a dedicated server software to set up your server with custom rules. 

Let's say your at school or at work and you want to brag to your friends/co-workers of your scores. EASY. Just bring up Battlelog and you have every single stat that you would want to brag to your friends about. "Yeah, my KDR is killer!" or "My accuracy is shitty... but I just like shooting a lot of bullets!" It's all right there in the browser.

You want to show off that awesome gear you got in a raid in WoW, easy! There are a bunch of sites that keep track of you levels, skills, gear... fuck, everything. Oh, and for all it's faults WoW has a fucking in game menu. Why force us to use something that fans make for free?

I don't think Frostbite 2 engine has a "menu" option... so "browser" menu is essentially the same as "in-game" menu.

Please show me the place on battlelog where you can change graphics and keybinds.

So yes, for the most part, Battlelog is a nice addition.

That is a problem. It is not an addition, it is a replacement. If it was just an addition, I would not have any problem with it whatsoever, because then I would just not use it, like all the stat tracking sites for the other games.


Arguments against battle log:
1. It is not optional feature, it is a forced replacement
2. No way of tweaking options before loading a map
3. Requires browser plug in. Not all browser work so you are forced to pick a browser that DICE decided to make the plug-in for.
4. Need to open up a browser to start a singleplayer game.
5. Fullscreen bullshit (explained below)***
6. Privacy settings set to low by default.

*** Fired up a game, starts in windowed mode by default just to piss me off. Origin insults me further by putting a tip that Alt+Enter will put me in fullscreen mode. Started the map, the blur effects are shit because you have to get really drunk to get that effect in real life. So I decide to turn it off completely. Hit apply, screen is black for one second and goes in windowed mode again. Pressing alt+Enter again, and it goes in fullscreen. Take a look at controls, change some sound setting and shadows while at it and hit apply again. MOTHERFUCKER goes into windowed mode again.

God damn it, why cant it stay in fullscreen mode?

[newy]

I hope you have mentioned those ^ in the bf3 forum. Else they will not bother checking that shit.

[AceHigh]

There are like 30 pages long petitions about those things on the BF3 forums.

There is no way the devs did not notice it. Most likely they will just use the "cock in the arse" ultimatum: if you want to play at all, do it our way. Apparently Tamarin is happy to bend over.

[mgz]

yea i had to disable no script globaly to actually get the piece of shit game to load. Even with the site given full access it would fucking work.

Annoying bullshit with the full screen. And it wouldnt let me fucking change my mouse binds. I play with a retardedly non standard config for my keys

Arrows
Del = reload
end/page down = right and left lean
Rshift = steady scope/sprint
/ = nade
. = special nade
rctrl = jump
ralt = crouch
space = prone
right click for shoot
left click = use/interact with enviro button
scroll wheel click = zoom
scrolling = weapons
thumb bumper 1 = melee
0 on  numpad = talk on vent

i cant use this shit because the fucks wont let me set up my mouse properly

[TMRNetShark]

God damn it, why cant it stay in fullscreen mode?

There is an option that says "Fullscreen mode."

Anyways, continue to petition to have an in-game menu then. Like Newy said, DICE will not see that here... so post it there. I'm not opposed to using an in-game menu at all. Would I prefer it over Battlelog? Kinda no. Like I said... I liked in-game menus way better before...

But now that I've used Battlelog... I kinda don't want to go back. So DICE can make an in-game menu for people that want to use it, but I really hope they keep Battlelog cause I'm kinda addicted to it now.

Obviously it's my own opinion and clearly doesn't reflect what a lot of people are saying.

@mgz... why have you gotten use to that? Do you use WASD or the Arrow keys? Because the way you want to setup your keyboard means you either have to move your left hand a lot OR you got three fucking arms. Why would you STOP moving to reload (unless you use your mouse hand, in which case... why would you stop looking around just to reload?)?

[AceHigh]

mgz, on the keybinds there is actually a good explanation: it is not in beta but will be available on the release.

Tamarin: Hell yeah I already signed that petition.

There is an option that says "Fullscreen mode."

Look at that, you are actually useful for something. Hmm... looks like in fullscreen my old core 2 duo can run this game nicely. Still have to test it again when I get my second package with RAM tomorrow. What better benchmark than this?

Oh a tip for everyone: there is an option on your profile on battlelog that allows you to hide all your stats, ignore friend requests and all other annoying shit, check it out (I guess that is where it is better than Steam)

[TMRNetShark]

mgz, on the keybinds there is actually a good explanation: it is not in beta but will be available on the release.

Tamarin: Hell yeah I already signed that petition.

There is an option that says "Fullscreen mode."

Look at that, you are actually useful for something. Hmm... looks like in fullscreen my old core 2 duo can run this game nicely. Still have to test it again when I get my second package with RAM tomorrow. What better benchmark than this?

Oh a tip for everyone: there is an option on your profile on battlelog that allows you to hide all your stats, ignore friend requests and all other annoying shit, check it out (I guess that is where it is better than Steam)

Didn't get your Sandybridge yet? And trust me... if it makes that many PC gamers happy, I would WANT DICE to put in an in-game menu just so there are more people online playing the game. It would be a travesty if 50% of the people who were going to buy the game didn't because of some stupid menu setup. At the same time, PLEASE don't remove Battlelog when making an in-game menu. I actually like it...

"you are actually useful for something"

Iknwrght? Who woulda thunk it? 

[newy]

I guess it's actually good that I'm at my parents' and not at my PC (raging).

[vuzedome]

I don't care any more, go and eat shit and die origin, making me do silly things, worse than what steam did to me.

[mgz]

God damn it, why cant it stay in fullscreen mode?

There is an option that says "Fullscreen mode."

Anyways, continue to petition to have an in-game menu then. Like Newy said, DICE will not see that here... so post it there. I'm not opposed to using an in-game menu at all. Would I prefer it over Battlelog? Kinda no. Like I said... I liked in-game menus way better before...

But now that I've used Battlelog... I kinda don't want to go back. So DICE can make an in-game menu for people that want to use it, but I really hope they keep Battlelog cause I'm kinda addicted to it now.

Obviously it's my own opinion and clearly doesn't reflect what a lot of people are saying.

@mgz... why have you gotten use to that? Do you use WASD or the Arrow keys? Because the way you want to setup your keyboard means you either have to move your left hand a lot OR you got three fucking arms. Why would you STOP moving to reload (unless you use your mouse hand, in which case... why would you stop looking around just to reload?)?

I have very large hands using aswd cramps my hand. I dont need to stop moving to reload because like i said large hands.
I dont move my left hand much at all, the only real inconvenience is having to have my keyboard all way to one side.
For a reference on how much reach i get i can put my thumb on the right arrow key and keep it depressed and almost reach Lalt