MPC with windows 7?

[kenshin-dono]

so im still klinda outa comission with my laptop for watching anime on the bigscreen, so i havent really watched anything but BD's and DVDs for months. My father is wrapping up his HT setup though and i think i can actually finish up some of the series i had stalled on back when my system died. Should be interesting watching these on a 130" screen.

anyway, the PC he has that i can probalby view these uses windows 7. Im not familiar with that at all. I tried bringing some AMV's and fansubs down to test on it and some AMV's worked, but not all, and pretty much no fansubs worked (it wont play MKV) It seems to just have the stock stuff installed on it. I figured i'd just d.load MPC-HC pack and run that, it should work right? I think i remember hearing windows 7 didn't work with all renderers on that though. WHat should i use? I belive i used Hallii with my older XP laptop.

Figured id just double check with you guys before i installed and fiddled with the settings. Tnx

^_^x KD

[bloody000]

MPC-HC + EVR custom preset. You don't even need any external codecs for common fansubs.


btw, the Haali renderer is practically abandoned.

[Temuthril]

http://cccp-project.net/

[Kyrdua]

http://shark007.net/

from what i've heard. this is better for win7. or was that for x64.

anyway, uninstall your MPC and codecs before installing this or cccp.

CoreAVC should be another addition to your arsenal too.

[vuzedome]

http://shark007.net/

from what i've heard. this is better for win7. or was that for x64.

anyway, uninstall your MPC and codecs before installing this or cccp.

CoreAVC should be another addition to your arsenal too.

THAT, shark is what I use. Spice it up with MPCHC and if you have a capable graphic card squeezed into that HTPC of yours get madvr going as well.

[kenshin-dono]

@Temuthril dont need the links to CCCP MPC pack, i know about that. I was just asking what renderer option to use with it once its installed, i havent used it on windows 7

MPC-HC + EVR custom preset. You don't even need any external codecs for common fansubs.


btw, the Haali renderer is practically abandoned.

thats what i was asking about. So for windows 7 with the CCCP pack its best to use EVR custom? Haali worked pretty good on my slightly older XP laptop. What about MadVR or any of the other ones?

http://shark007.net/

from what i've heard. this is better for win7. or was that for x64.

anyway, uninstall your MPC and codecs before installing this or cccp.

CoreAVC should be another addition to your arsenal too.

hmm both you and vuze seem to suggest this shark007 thing.. ive never even heard of it actually. Theres no MPC installed on the new HT pc he has, its a fresh system with just the stock stuff. Im debating just trying this shark thing. But ive never used it before, it may be better to just use MPC-HC that comes with the CCCP pack since thats what im more accustomed too i guess. Unless this thing is way better. It seems like its supposed to work with windows media player though, which im not a fan of. Can you use it with MPC?

You also mention CoreAVC, that was the other thing i remember hearing about but never used before. Is that a codec or what? and should it be mixed with either the shark or the CCCP that comes with MPC?

*EDIT*
for now im doing the MPC-HC thing with the cccp pack since thats what im used to i can change it out later. Question about EVR though, what filter should i use? bilinear or bicubic? i think bicubic is the best bet right?

^_^x KD

[vuzedome]

Well you can use MPCHC and shark together, which is a whole lot better that way. But I'm not gonna push you into using it if you prefer sticking with CCCP.

EVR is good, and bicubic is fine. But try Haali's or better yet, get madvr going.

If you can play 1080p on uber settings with what CCCP has then it's fine, no need to go get CoreAVC.

[namaiki]

madVR (lanczos or spline, maybe softcubic50 if the others are too sharp for luma upscale) which has been mentioned should be much better than bicubic, and especially on that huge screen.

[kenshin-dono]

ya... looks like it couldn't play the 1080p file on my fathers computer. The op stuttered like hell. This is robertas blood trail btw, i saw a lot of people complaining about it so i dont know, maybe its just not a very good encode?

Several of you mentioned madVR. Is it worth d.loading and getting that going or will that not run either? Im guessing if it wouldn't run in 1080p properly with EVR, then mad VR is out? Maybe its time to try that shark thing

^_^x KD

[kitamesume]

is there any good combinations of these programs to boost picture quality? specially on upscaled 420p >,> been trying out settings, so far i made the 420p almost look like a 720p.

[Xtras]

Pros of Shark: All the codecs and splitters in CCCP and then some more all in one control panel; x64 components (usually not needed though); regular updates which always give you the newest versions of Haali and FFDShow etc. ; Clean installer and uninstaller

Pros of CCCP: Noob friendly; Comes with MPC configured to use the codecs.

That said you need the hardware first to make it work. Post the computer specs and we can advise further.

madVR usually takes even more processing power than EVR or Haali. It helps in making poor quality video look a little better when you are stretching it out to full screen, but isn't necessary if you have good quality files or don't really care too much about really fine details. I'd say it really isn't necessary for 99% of people.

[Temuthril]

ya... looks like it couldn't play the 1080p file on my fathers computer. The op stuttered like hell. This is robertas blood trail btw, i saw a lot of people complaining about it so i dont know, maybe its just not a very good encode?

It's more likely that you're just running out of decoding power.

Several of you mentioned madVR. Is it worth d.loading and getting that going or will that not run either? Im guessing if it wouldn't run in 1080p properly with EVR, then mad VR is out?

MadVR is slower than EVR.

[kitamesume]

got two rigs to put it on.

Celeron E3300 @ 3.4Ghz
GT240 512MB GDDR5 @ stocks
2GB DDR2 800 @ 920(bah limited multi)

i3-2100
HD6670 1GB GDDR5
2x4GB DDR3 1600

anyway, currently using CCCP+CoreAVC some tweaks with the sharpen and blurs and other settings is all i've done so far =P

PS: should i sell my Athlon II X4? the i3-2100 is pretty much my main rig now =P

[kenshin-dono]

Pros of Shark: All the codecs and splitters in CCCP and then some more all in one control panel; x64 components (usually not needed though); regular updates which always give you the newest versions of Haali and FFDShow etc. ; Clean installer and uninstaller

Pros of CCCP: Noob friendly; Comes with MPC configured to use the codecs.

That said you need the hardware first to make it work. Post the computer specs and we can advise further.

madVR usually takes even more processing power than EVR or Haali. It helps in making poor quality video look a little better when you are stretching it out to full screen, but isn't necessary if you have good quality files or don't really care too much about really fine details. I'd say it really isn't necessary for 99% of people.

hmm thnx i'll check with my father and find what the pc's specs are. I am a noob with codecs so thats a big plus for CCCP.  MadVR might be nice but it sounds like it takes more power for sure, so if i cant run 1080p right with EVR i probably wont be able to with MadVR. Too bad, im sure it would look better with MadVR on that 130" screen

^_^x KD