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Are some Apple PCs priceworthy?
Sosseres:
What is your opinion? To start the discussion I will do one comparison where the Apple PC iMac comes out ahead.
Apple PC
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC814LL/A?mco=MjMxMjQ0MjA (refurbished) $1,699.00 Non refurbished is 300 more.
DIY PC (roughly the same computer with worse parts in some places, components found using google price comparison)
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2400-Processor-3-10GHz-LGA1155/dp/B004EBUXIA $189.99
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dominator-PC3-10666-1333MHz-CMX4GX3M2A1333C8/dp/B003BYRLF4 $46.99
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SATA-Internal-Drive-AD-7260S-0B/dp/accessories/B003MRHOQG $20.00
No monitor of same type until Samsung releases theirs. So picking a different one in roughly the same class. http://www.pcrush.com/product/LCD-Flat-Panel-Displays/675335/DoubleSight-DS-275W-IPS-27-inch-2560-x-1440-1000-1-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor?refid=1238 $875.63
http://www.everingtons.com/product_info.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=581&c=01&i=B002MCZJ78 $45.79 (HD camera, something I would skip)
http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/catalog_type.asp?ProductCode=151789&ai=1550 $119.39 (Radeon HD 5850 ~= AMD Radeon HD 6970M, see http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6970M.43077.0.html)
http://www.pc-titan.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&info=p23818_Gigabyte-GA-PH67-UD3-B3--H67--B3---dual-PC3-10667U-DDR3-.html $ 89,50 (there are plenty other ones in this price class)
http://www.amazon.com/150M-Wireless-Adapter-Stick-802-11n/dp/B003E41U8U $6.99
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-S-120-Speaker-System/dp/B0016SUJFG $9.47
http://www.k12computers.com/Apple_Genuine_Magic_Mouse_MB829LL_A_New_p/MB829LLA.htm $40.00 (since I have no clue what a mouse of that type is really called and thus can't search for it)
http://www.k12computers.com/Apple_Wireless_Bluetooth_Keyboard_MC184LL_A_New_p/mc184lla.htm $40.00 (apple keyboard, can take any at all really)
http://www.pc-titan.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&info=p3234_ASUS-TA-D31-black.html (case) $ 30,23
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-ATX12V-Active/dp/B001G0WPLK $43.71
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Internal-HD103SJ/dp/accessories/B002MQC0P8 $59.99
Total: $189.99 $46.99 $20.00 $875.63 $119.39 $ 89,50 $9.47 $6.99 $40.00 $40.00 $ 30,23 $43.71 $59.99 ~= 1570
+ OS
mgz:
i didnt go all shitty on the case and used pretty much all high rated shit in my build it was cheaper and EVERYTHING inside is brand new instead of all of it being refurbs.
If you look for only refurbed parts you can save a lot and all at newegg since im lazy and came with 1685 but then when i go to buy a computer in another couple of years i already have a bomb monitor so that saves me 800$ in 2 years
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 - dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 - case highly rated antec 300 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 - hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824185011 - monitor has 50$ MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125342 - video card i went with nvidia since its same bang for buck and less issues with drivers - 10$ MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 - corsair power supply 20$ MIR - need i say more its corsair ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121013 - shitty speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109237 - microsoft bluetooth kb - buy a mac keyboard if you want i dont care its apparently cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826146013 - bluetooth mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091 - wifi
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820717005 - card reader
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145278 - corsair memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105451 - webcam - useless 50-60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317 - mobo has usb3.0 something the mac doesnt have
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833340012 - tiny bluetooth adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 - processor - has a 5% discount on it
so before tax and shipping ends up being right about 1600 after rebates.
And like i said you dont need to rebuy a monitor every time you buy a computer, that fact alone is what would make this the better buy because even if you spent a little more and had a nicer monitor then it just means in a couple years when you go to buy a new comp you dont need to blow 800 or 1000 dollars on a new monitor + by not going with apple your not stuck with shitty glossy monitor
again i will repeat that this is for a brand new computer and monitor instead of a refurbed one with that being said you would be looking at 1600-1700 vs 2000 for the mac brand new or say fuck it
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC007LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTkwMzc1NDA - 1000$ and you can get rid of the shitty speakers for 15$ its still less then the imac
Realistically if half the gimmicky bullshit is taken out you can build a much nicer comp for that 800 dollars, that gimmicky bullshit your stuck paying for with prebuilts like macs, hp, lenovo etc.
You built your own when you dont give a shit about getting a keyboard with your comp, and a 8 way memory card reader, speakers built into your monitor, seriously how often do buy pc speakers ...
kitamesume:
i dont get this thread... bah and true, you dont really need to rebuy a new monitor, you'll only need to buy another if the first one is either damaged or is ancient.
--- Quote from: Osmo on June 04, 2011, 01:52:34 PM ---CPU: i5-2500k ✔
Motherboard: Asus - SABERTOOTH P67 ✔
RAM: Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 8GB 1600MHz CL8 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit [£84.29] ✔
GPU: Asus 2GB ATi Radeon 6970 ✔
BootDrive: OCZ 120GB SSD Vertex 3✔
Storage Drive: 1TB Spinpoint F3✔
PSU: OCZ Fata1ity 750w semi moduler✔
OS: Windows 7 64 bit OEM
CD/DVD read|write & Blue-Ray?: Samsung?
CASE: Undecided.
--- End quote ---
this build was planned to be around £1000.00 so changing some stuffs would make it like this.
[190$] Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core
[150$] ASUS P8P67-M PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
[75$] G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 CL9
[250$] XFX HD-695X-ZNFC Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 -OR- [250$] ZOTAC ZT-50301-10M GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
[100$] Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
[120$] Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
[65$] SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
[50$] COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1
SUM : 1000$ without rebates.
bloody000:
If you are looking at an iMac you most likely:
a) want a compact all-in-one
b) want a high quality display
c) want OS X
d) want something neat looking
e) want something with quality you can see and touch
If not, why even bother?
mgz:
--- Quote from: bloody000 on July 06, 2011, 09:08:39 AM ---If you are looking at an iMac you most likely:
a) want a compact all-in-one
b) want a high quality display
c) want OS X
d) want something neat looking
e) want something with quality you can see and touch
If not, why even bother?
--- End quote ---
apple isnt synonymous with quality i dont know why you would mention that, and the high quality display is an issue as well since they have decreased the quality of their displays and switched from matte to glossy finishes on them
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