Author Topic: Are some Apple PCs priceworthy? (Read 5661 times)

Sosseres · « **Reply #40 on:** July 07, 2011, 02:03:00 PM »

Quote from: kitamesume on July 07, 2011, 10:55:26 AM

ohh yea, OP is MIA.

I have had no reason to reply prior to that post. I posted what I wanted in the OP and people have argued both sides since then. Why should I respond when it is a an argument about screen quality? I don't know a lot about screen quality, which is why I am not responding...

I have brand aversion towards apple, I won't buy one even it is proven priceworthy.

Minor point, Apple PCs tend to resale at higher than their PC peers prices. Makes up for a part of the disparity in costs.

zat0x91 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 08, 2011, 05:26:10 AM »

Quote from: bloody000 on July 06, 2011, 01:04:52 PM

It's a smooth, elegant all-in-one. With the default keyboard and mouse there aren't even wires except the power cord, later this year even iOS devices can be sync wirelessly(officially anyway). Not some HAF 932 abomination with puke green CCFL.

The default keyboard and mice are terrible; who wants flat keys with virtually no tactile response or mouse with horrible tracking and uncomfortable?

Mind you can get a Lian Li A-05 for $80 instead of that horrible HAF case and it's very minimalistic and clean; your choice of black or silver.

I love it when people compare Macs to all the horrible ricer plastic cases that people tend to use when there's a wide variety of quality full aluminum cases for $80 and up.

fohfoh · « **Reply #42 on:** July 08, 2011, 05:33:41 AM »

Seriously? iMac? Never.

MBP or MB? Maybe. I'd try one out. Well, yeah, I'd be paying a premium on aesthetics and stuff and I wouldn't do anything special with it other than stuff I probably use my smart phone with, but it's not a bad thing to have in a laptop. I'm usually just doing basic stuff anyways. Consider it a spiffier and pricier netbook with more props to an image factor.

I'll add I'd buy a used MB or MBP for like 300-500 bucks to toy around with. After learning about it, maybe dump it to an individual who actually has no idea how to use a computer. (ie: My mom)

A mac is a great computer to give to a computard if you're not close around enough to do comp fixes and whatnot. You don't have to deal with as much shit like random programs on a computer installed, updates with names that confuse the fuck out of people, etc.

bloody000 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 08, 2011, 06:07:45 AM »

Quote from: zat0x91 on July 08, 2011, 05:26:10 AM

Quote from: bloody000 on July 06, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
It's a smooth, elegant all-in-one. With the default keyboard and mouse there aren't even wires except the power cord, later this year even iOS devices can be sync wirelessly(officially anyway). Not some HAF 932 abomination with puke green CCFL.

The default keyboard and mice are terrible; who wants flat keys with virtually no tactile response or mouse with horrible tracking and uncomfortable?

Mind you can get a Lian Li A-05 for $80 instead of that horrible HAF case and it's very minimalistic and clean; your choice of black or silver.

I love it when people compare Macs to all the horrible ricer plastic cases that people tend to use when there's a wide variety of quality full aluminum cases for $80 and up.

Even though it's a chiclet scissor-switch keyboard it's still vastly better than the common mushy rubber dome crap. But of course it's not a Cherry or *gasp* Topre keyboard.

Or a Silverstone TJ-07. The funny thing is a lot of people seem to prefer ghastly cases and think clean-looking ones are boring and dull, go figure.
btw PC-A05 is a bit too cramped. A normal mid tower or a full tower is much easier to work with, more space to hide cables too.

zat0x91 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 08, 2011, 06:17:53 AM »

Hey, I love my TJ-07 because I fit two triple 120mm radiators in the bottom and another dual 120mm on top if I wanted; I'm a watercooling freak.

Back to the A05: It may look small and for only $80 you can fit a ton in there; I recall someone managed to fit a 6990 in there, but they couldn't get a DVD drive in.

People managed to use the prebuilt holes for wire management pretty well:

bloody000 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2011, 06:43:04 AM »

Quote from: zat0x91 on July 08, 2011, 06:17:53 AM

Hey, I love my TJ-07 because I fit two triple 120mm radiators in the bottom and another dual 120mm on top if I wanted; I'm a watercooling freak.

Back to the A05: It may look small and for only $80 you can fit a ton in there; I recall someone managed to fit a 6990 in there, but they couldn't get a DVD drive in.

People managed to use the prebuilt holes for wire management pretty well:

You put two triple's at the bottom? aren't they overlapping that way? I just use a quad with some gutted old fans as spacers. the last fan is half blocked by the PSU so I kinda regret getting a quad instead of a triple. the top is hard to fit a dual actually, the hole spacing doesn't match, I have to take off the mesh and use those 120mmto 140mm extender things to hold the rad. it's also very hard to get it in with the motherboard in the way. If I'm in the US I would've ordered a mountain mod instead, but the shipping to my igloo is ridiculous lol.

*looks like only newer A05s have holes for cables.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2011, 11:20:34 AM »

So most prefer PC, In my country, most people think Apple products are superior, it's good that I read this thread.

AceHigh · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2011, 02:36:13 PM »

Might I ask what country you are talking about? Just curious.

I know that Hollywood loves Mac, however considering that it's a place of superficial vanity and trends, I am not surprised.

calfish · « **Reply #48 on:** August 14, 2011, 06:47:14 PM »

The Macbook pros and Macbook airs are really sweet. But I can get a more powerful laptop for less.. Mac OS is pretty good to use, I managed to install snow leopard of my Dell Inspiron 1525, but thats's been replaced by Ubuntu now...

Saras · « **Reply #49 on:** August 14, 2011, 08:23:25 PM »

I like having a large choice in software. Most of the programs I use do not have a mac equivalent, so I will use a pc.

And there are plenty PC's that look good. Macs aren't the only things on this planet that do aesthetics.

Tiffanys · « **Reply #50 on:** August 17, 2011, 02:26:44 PM »

bloody000 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 18, 2011, 07:09:50 AM »

Breaking news: Workstations are expensive as hell!!!

http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MC561LL/A?select=select&product=MC561LL%2FA&mco=MTg2OTUwMTk
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/MiddleFrame.asp?page=config&ProductLineId=433&FamilyId=3006&BaseId=32967&oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=

-Configurable- HP Z600 Microsoft® Windows® Workstation
WD059AV
HP Z600 Workstation
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64
HP Z600 650W 85% Efficient Chassis
HP Z600 Localization Kit
Intel Xeon E5620 2.40 12MB/1066 4C CPU-1
Intel Xeon E5620 2.40 12MB/1066 4C CPU-2
ATI FirePro V4800 1GB Graphics
No Item Selected
HP 6GB (6x1GB) DDR3-1333 ECC 2-CPU RAM (Supported only with Dual Processor)
HP 1000GB SATA 7200 1st HDD
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
HP 16X DVD-ROM SATA 1st Drive
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Floppy Disk Kit
HP USB Standard Keyboard
HP USB Optical Scroll Mouse
Broadcom 5761 Gigabit PCIe NIC (Not supported with FX380 graphic card)
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
3 years parts, labor and onsite service (3/3/3) standard warranty. Certain restrictions and exclusions apply.

$3,471.00

kitamesume · « **Reply #52 on:** August 18, 2011, 07:59:52 AM »

thats because workstations ARE expensive.

HP Z600 FM101UT#ABA Workstation XEON E5620(2.40GHz) 6GB DDR3 500GB HDD Capacity NVIDIA Quadro 2000 (1 GB) Windows 7 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883147778

bloody000 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 18, 2011, 09:06:08 AM »

That was sarcasm in case you didn't notice.
And for shits and giggles if you click my link you will see HP charges you 200USD for a 1TB over the pathetic 160GB default.

Lupin · « **Reply #54 on:** August 18, 2011, 01:20:18 PM »

Quote from: bloody000 on August 18, 2011, 07:09:50 AM

Breaking news: Workstations are expensive as hell!!!

http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/configure/MC561LL/A?select=select&product=MC561LL%2FA&mco=MTg2OTUwMTk
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/MiddleFrame.asp?page=config&ProductLineId=433&FamilyId=3006&BaseId=32967&oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=

-Configurable- HP Z600 Microsoft® Windows® Workstation
WD059AV
HP Z600 Workstation
Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64
HP Z600 650W 85% Efficient Chassis
HP Z600 Localization Kit
Intel Xeon E5620 2.40 12MB/1066 4C CPU-1
Intel Xeon E5620 2.40 12MB/1066 4C CPU-2
ATI FirePro V4800 1GB Graphics
No Item Selected
HP 6GB (6x1GB) DDR3-1333 ECC 2-CPU RAM (Supported only with Dual Processor)
HP 1000GB SATA 7200 1st HDD
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
HP 16X DVD-ROM SATA 1st Drive
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Floppy Disk Kit
HP USB Standard Keyboard
HP USB Optical Scroll Mouse
Broadcom 5761 Gigabit PCIe NIC (Not supported with FX380 graphic card)
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
No Item Selected
3 years parts, labor and onsite service (3/3/3) standard warranty. Certain restrictions and exclusions apply.

$3,471.00

Just take the operating system. Microsoft will support the OS for a long time with multiple service packs free of cost even after a new version of Windows is released. Apple will drop support for the last version of OSX as soon as the new is out. Most Linux distros don't have that kind of support.

AceHigh · « **Reply #55 on:** August 18, 2011, 06:09:22 PM »

EDIT: right click and view image then zoom in.

Proin Drakenzol · « **Reply #56 on:** August 19, 2011, 05:13:00 AM »

@Ace: You missed one: a two terabyte HDD is not $150 more expensive than a 1TB.

bloody000 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 19, 2011, 05:40:56 AM »

Quote from: Proin Drakenzol on August 19, 2011, 05:13:00 AM

@Ace: You missed one: a two terabyte HDD is not $150 more expensive than a 1TB.

Indeed. According to HP, a 2TB drive should be 280USD more expensive than a 1TB one. And if you want Dell to put a 1TB drive instead of a 500GB one in your Precision T5500 you should pay Dell 130USD.

Gamerzhell · « **Reply #58 on:** August 19, 2011, 05:58:57 AM »

You are also forgetting that the HP comes with 3 years onsite warranty which is important in a workstation since time = money.

AceHigh · « **Reply #59 on:** August 19, 2011, 06:46:31 AM »

Quote from: bloody000 on August 19, 2011, 05:40:56 AM

Quote from: Proin Drakenzol on August 19, 2011, 05:13:00 AM
@Ace: You missed one: a two terabyte HDD is not $150 more expensive than a 1TB.

Indeed. According to HP, a 2TB drive should be 280USD more expensive than a 1TB one. And if you want Dell to put a 1TB drive instead of a 500GB one in your Precision T5500 you should pay Dell 130USD.

And according to newegg....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=14|22-136-533^22-136-533-TS%2C22-136-830^22-136-830-TS