Are some Apple PCs priceworthy?

[bloody000]

FLACebo on portable gear is hilarious o say the least.

Maybe if all you're using are JVC Gummies.

I have triple armature headphones. There is a difference.

Yes, I'm sure your songs are killer samples and you are so well trained in spotting compression artifacts that you can easily pick out the lossless one in ABX tests. On a train. With humans around you.

[kitamesume]

^ no no, more like on an aircraft runway where a plane is just about to take off. to top it off, theres a terrorist bombing on the spot. talk about uber noisy. heh. heh. heh.

[mgz]

FLACebo on portable gear is hilarious o say the least.

no if you have a player that puts out a better range of sound with better clarity and can actually handle good set of phones without a secondary amp, it is definitely noticeable.

[Proin Drakenzol]

FLACebo on portable gear is hilarious o say the least.

Maybe if all you're using are JVC Gummies.

I have triple armature headphones. There is a difference.

Yes, I'm sure your songs are killer samples and you are so well trained in spotting compression artifacts that you can easily pick out the lossless one in ABX tests. On a train. With humans around you.

I generally hit around 80% on ABX tests. Also: passive noise canceling. Also, also: flac tweaks better, it's more accepting of the use of an equalizer since everything is there. Also, also, also: most of my flac is classical, where it makes a bigger difference due to the greater dynamic range of the sound.

[bloody000]

Even if you use the best memory foam it will still let in quite a bit of environmental noise, easily overwhelming the subtle improvements from using lossless codecs. Like I said, ABX 'em in environments where portable players are commonly used, like daily commuting.

What it comes down to is that I find the idea of critical listening in generally noisy environments laughable and futile.

[tomoya-kun]

FLACebo on portable gear is hilarious o say the least.

Maybe if all you're using are JVC Gummies.

I have triple armature headphones. There is a difference.

must not cost more than 100$

That is truly impossible.

think again?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855101263
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855117066

But do they meet any of your other requirements? One is 1/10th the storage space, the other 1/40th. The iPod shuffle sounds like the audio is being filtered through mud (haven't heard the Samsung). The iPod definitely doesn't support flac (the Samsung might but I doubt it).

So, physically small and <$100. Not that great, imo.

The HP Touchpad 32gb is 100$ atm and is the closest you'll ever find in that price range

[mgz]

Even if you use the best memory foam it will still let in quite a bit of environmental noise, easily overwhelming the subtle improvements from using lossless codecs. Like I said, ABX 'em in environments where portable players are commonly used, like daily commuting.

What it comes down to is that I find the idea of critical listening in generally noisy environments laughable and futile.

not if you play it loud enough

[blubart]

i think the topic is done.
arguing whether or not someone would hear a difference in flac while playing it with a portable device is "laughable and futile" at best. not only have you no idea where he is while mobile (jogging in a forest would produce a sufficiently quite background, no?) nor do you have his ears.