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Chiyachan:
-stretches and yawns-

Kristen, Diaz, please play nice or toys will be removed.
Also Kristen, when's that group of yours going to go back and fix its fugly mistakes? I'm still waiting for Chihiro to apologise for raping my eyes with the shit effort on Akikan. Yes, I realise it's a crap show, but you and your team didn't have to punish everyone with shit work.
Diaz - I know nothing about your group, but just imagine I've said something offensive about it and yourself. Thanks.

Love,
Chiya.

kristen:

--- Quote from: Daiz on July 06, 2011, 08:39:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: kristen on July 06, 2011, 07:57:22 PM ---If you want my opinion on Luma, it's simple. It's a very minor nitpick - nothing close to failing to IVTC and episode or oversharpening. It's an easy fix if it does bug you.

--- End quote ---
"A very minor nitpick"? It's an incredibly visible issue, since it results in the video looking severely overbrightened and it results in huge amounts of detail loss. It's even more visible to your average user than failing at IVTC or oversharpening the video.

Allow me to demonstrate:
01: Broken | Fixed
02: Broken | Fixed
03: Broken | Fixed
04: Broken | Fixed
05: Broken | Fixed

As you can see, not fixing the luma levels results in very notable issues:
Shot 1: The background pattern loses tons of details.
Shot 2: The lower part of the fence on the left completely disappears.
Shot 3: The posters become basically unreadable.
Shot 4: The view behind the windows pretty much completely disappears.
Shot 5: The window fades to nothing and the tile pattern on the wall becomes invisible.

Not fixing this is a huge fuck-up, but what was done to the Share/PD raws (just chopping levels 235+ off) is an even bigger fuck-up.

--- End quote ---

Yes, as http://blisswater.info/comparison/kanamemo/kanamemo-luma-1-broken.jpg looks a thousand times worse than http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9369/screenshot3yj0.png . Not to mention, those "broken" frames are easily fixed. Details aren't lost, they're just hidden and easily gained back by adjusting your playback.

Chiyachan has asked for the end to this, so this will be my last post on the subject. But regardless, the obvious fact has been shown - this is better than anything that exists and ever will exist and hence should be uploaded.

Daiz:

--- Quote from: kristen on July 06, 2011, 09:36:02 PM ---Details aren't lost, they're just hidden and easily gained back by adjusting your playback.
--- End quote ---
Except that you can't effectively fix this on playback unless you knew exactly what was wrong with it in the first place, and even then it'd require dabbling with things like ffdshow postprocessor. Making the decoder/renderer assume PC levels is a faulty solution, as the video doesn't use the full PC levels and thus you end up with blacks that look gray which is not correct. Thus approximately 99% of users are affected and unable to fix it properly.

kristen:

--- Quote from: Daiz on July 06, 2011, 09:41:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: kristen on July 06, 2011, 09:36:02 PM ---Details aren't lost, they're just hidden and easily gained back by adjusting your playback.
--- End quote ---
Except that you can't effectively fix this on playback unless you knew exactly what was wrong with it in the first place, and even then it'd require dabbling with things like ffdshow postprocessor. Making the decoder/renderer assume PC levels is a faulty solution, as the video doesn't use the full PC levels and thus you end up with blacks that look gray which is not correct. Thus approximately 99% of users are affected and unable to fix it properly.

--- End quote ---

If you didn't know what was wrong in the first place you wouldn't be noticing anything.

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Daiz:
It's easy to tell that something is wrong when the video looks bright as hell. Many leechers complained that Dragon Crisis looked overbright without knowing what the cause was. Same deal here.

EDIT: And way back when Kanamemo DVDs were initially offered, people were also complaining about "albino lolis" and overtly bright video. I didn't know what exactly was the problem back then either, but it was clear as a day that the DVDs were bright as hell to the point of being faulty.

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