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Internet service providers to act against online piracy by reducing bandwidth
AnimeJanai:
--- Quote from: nstgc on August 24, 2011, 10:41:30 PM ---How are they determining whether or not someone is a pirate?
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If you read the "6 Strikes" agreement carefully, most of the strikes occur simply due to being accused. You do not have any right to contest the accusation or demand data. Just being accused is enough to count as a strike. The two final strikes you have your defense, but by then, the other strikes that occurred will be brought up as counting against you thus showing you have a trend towards breaking the law and thus are deserving of: (1) Being added to the Watch List of internet pirates that the ISP's keep (2) Having bandwidth limited and/or total GB limited per month (3) or having your account terminated with you being required to buy out the remainder per TOS (that is clearwire's version which is the worst). (4) Involvement of the law such as MPAA or RIAA is additional but the ISP's can turn over the data to the copyright or servicemark holder.
tomoya-kun:
--- Quote from: Sixxtysixx on August 29, 2011, 07:21:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: tomoya-kun on August 29, 2011, 04:34:28 AM ---But morally, you know when you shouldn't do stuff.
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Most pirates, ISPs, and others tend to ignore any morality related to the internet or technology though. A person might not steal a CD from a store, but they will download it. An ISP won't go through your mail/personal belongings, but they will go packet sniffing. Bad comparisons maybe, but many things become seem to become a moral grey are when the internet is involved.
More on topic, the ISP I have doesn't care what you download, but corporations will track your IP if its unencrypted and send out a cease and desist to the ISP to pass on to you. 5 C&Ds and they'll be forced to cut your service entirely. I think many ISPs not mentioned in the OP operate this way.
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Do some ISPs ignore this? I've never gotten C&D before and I download terrabyte + per month of Pirate bay content sometimes.
AnimeJanai:
Comcast cable bandwidth distribution in neighborhood nodes has usage checked automatically by node. If the set of users on your node is not using much bandwidth, then you can download a lot every day and not attract the attention of Comcast (at least in my area so far). Your speeds of download can be very large too. At least this was how it was explained to one of my friends who for some strange reason chose to live in a quiet apartment complex full of "old" people. The old fogies don't really use up the bandwidth, so my friend gets to download well over the limit each month and at high speed. So far, comcast has not contacted him.
pingryanime:
Meh, I rarely torrent anime anyway.
Well, except for uploading shit at 3mbs... that might hit a snag.
sangued:
--- Quote from: AnimeJanai on September 01, 2011, 01:50:17 AM ---Comcast cable bandwidth distribution in neighborhood nodes has usage checked automatically by node. If the set of users on your node is not using much bandwidth, then you can download a lot every day and not attract the attention of Comcast (at least in my area so far). Your speeds of download can be very large too. At least this was how it was explained to one of my friends who for some strange reason chose to live in a quiet apartment complex full of "old" people. The old fogies don't really use up the bandwidth, so my friend gets to download well over the limit each month and at high speed. So far, comcast has not contacted him.
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I am not sure what area you live it but that is not how it works where I work. ( I am a tech for Comcast.) The only time Comcast will care about your download is if you go over your 250 gig limit per month, otherwise they don't care. As for internet slowing or getting faster because of how many people are on it, it is not like DSL, the amount of frequency's we have is more then enough to support any number of customers on a node. (could be between 50-500 on a node). Therefore even if everyone is on at once it will not slow down. It does not get faster or slower based off of how many people are using it, it is all controlled by a program file that is stored in your modem. This file controls all of your internet speed. Your friend has not been contacted because there are people using a lot more bandwidth per month then him so they go after them first. They will eventually get around to him and give him a warning, if he goes over his 250 gigs again they will cut off his service for 6 months.
As for them monitoring they chose people with very high bandwidth usage and even then most of the time they need a court order. Think about it if we where really watching everything, one I would be fired for using this site, two child pornography sites would not exist. The biggest one that Comcast would care about is Universal since we now own them. What it really comes down to is that even with the new laws they cannot look at what you are doing on your internet unless they have a valid reason. Even then there are still hoops that need to be jumped through. Its not as easy as lets see what little Johny is looking up today.
Finally, that law is defiantly more targeted towards movies put out by huge company's, aka universal, Fox, Disney etc. Anime sites like this is low priority.
Edit: And as for the main topic of this thread Comcast has had its internet usage limited to 250 gigs for a couple years now, it is not a new policy from the article mentioned here, nor will they be decreasing it from that amount. This is because of a law put into effect by the FCC when we bought Universal to prevent us from having to much "power". We most keep our limit where it is, and we have to provide "affordable" internet to everyone, we are not allowed to throttle our internet in any way. This is to prevent us from effecting services like Netflix in an attempt to make people use our video service vs. one that streams online.
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