Normal Sleeping...

[Ixarku]

I also try to avoid drinking anything an hour or two before bed; if I don’t go to the bathroom right before going to sleep, sometimes the need to go will either wake me up during the night, or it won’t, and I’ll sleep more uncomfortably during the night.

That’s pretty much everything I can think of at the moment.

Did you have an accident or something?

No, are you stupid or do you just not know how to read?

[tomoya-kun]

I also try to avoid drinking anything an hour or two before bed; if I don’t go to the bathroom right before going to sleep, sometimes the need to go will either wake me up during the night, or it won’t, and I’ll sleep more uncomfortably during the night.

That’s pretty much everything I can think of at the moment.

Did you have an accident or something?

No, are you stupid or do you just not know how to read?

Probably posted without reading OP

[Ixarku]

Probably posted without reading OP

More likely, he/she just read something into my original statement instead of reading my post literally, and jumped to an incorrect conclusion.  That's a pet peeve of mine -- I normally say exactly what I mean, so I get irritated when people try to read between the lines for something that isn't there.

[Saras]

First thing first, 8 hours is not the de facto time every human needs to sleep. Generally, if you get more than ~5-6 hours, you're fine if you feel fine, if not, then sleep some more. Especially if you lead a sedentary life, a.k.a. your body doesn't need to fix muscle/bone tears or just general physical trauma on a day to day basis. No, wankers cramp does not count. Also, I remember reading a study that people who get ~6 hours of sleep a day tend to live longer than the lot doing 8.


Next, there is a distinction between a sleeping drugs and sedatives. Avoid sleeping drugs if they are not vital to your sleep. Sleeping drugs knock you out, they do not get you to actually sleep. A little alcohol works as a sedative, which helps one reduce the amount of time to fall to sleep. However, anything beyond the little, and your body has to kick itself into overdrive to balance your bodies chemical composition, which makes for quite a shitty night of sleep.


Now then, to actual things that will help you. The human body is a slave of habit, so learn to make use of that.

As mentioned, consistency is a good start. If you go to bed every day at 11pm, your body will memorize it and it will become easier to go sleep. Hell I don't even use an alarm clock, I always wake up at 5.55-6.00am. Why? Because I've been doing it for years and my body knows it.

Second, make sure that the bed or the bedroom (optionally, I know some people are basically stuck in a single room) only function is that of sleeping or sex, nothing else. Do not use your as a place to lie down, do not use it to read books, watch movies on your laptop... ect. If you can make your body memorize that the bed = sleep. It'll help a lot in the long run.

Whether exercise or caffeine, tea or warm milk will affect your sleep is very individual and the amount of the effect can range from a mild sedative or disturbance that can be ignored to a "you will not sleep" drug.


Also, if you do indeed sleep for ~8+ hours a night. It is not rare to wake up in the middle of the night after a few hours sleep. It is a natural adaptation to the long nights of the winter cycle. It's not a problem or an issue, just stay still for a few minutes and you'll fall asleep again.


For the blue light problem, there's a free program called F.lux, which adjust the "coldness" of the display based on the position of the sun. I'd recommend it if you use the computer throughout the day.

[kitamesume]

actually what sleeping fixes is your brain plus some of the stuffs you mentioned, but most of the wounds will heal even while awake.

what your brain does during your sleep is that it relocates your memories on newer cells and replace the old cells with newer ones. memories cannot relocate while awake because your brain is currently using it and/or processing it(most likely overwrite or recollecting), memories stored on brain cells thats damaged would be lost obviously and cannot be relocated to a more stable cell.
to make it simpler, think about the brain cells as harddrives that lasts a week or two, you`ll have to relocate the contents to a newer harddrive and replace the almost dead harddrives with a newer one. good thing our brain cells isnt working like a raid-0 right? you`d forget everything even if a single cell dies, though i think it works like a raid-10 or raid-5 "if a chunk of it fails all at once then the whole raid dies" which then applies to amnesia. *chuckles*

so in conclusion, forcing your self to stay awake is bad, its either the newer memories would be written on failing cells and be forgotten after a while, or the older memories will be forgotten.

[Saras]

Not if you exercise competitively. Note the emphasis on sedentary life.

I know countless body builders - runners that need 8+ hours of rest, less they feel like shit. Muscle tears after exercise take a pretty long time to heal, generally around 30-40 hours, longer for some muscle groups. These are not something you just "walk away".

Oh right, something I forgot to mention, cut out naps. That's something that can fuck your regime like nothing else.

[Hebbe]

What's with all the pills.... anytime I go to bed i'll be sleeping like in 10 mins
Past 3 years I have been going like 5 hours of sleep on week (12 pm -5am) and weekends i'll be sleeping anything from 6 to 12 hours, usually going to bed after 3am. On fridays I'm almost always just under 24h awake.

Ofcourse I would be sleeping more If I wasn't going to work, which begins 6am from monday to friday.

[kitamesume]

lol

YOU! envy my poorly made avatar! sleeping so soundly... mwahahahaha.

[tomoya-kun]

Actually, a good thing to do is eat lots of food, making u sleeps

[Meandola]

Actually, a good thing to do is eat lots of food, making u sleeps

Only if you also want to get a stomach from here to tokyo, eating before you sleep is absolutely terrible

[tomoya-kun]

Actually, a good thing to do is eat lots of food, making u sleeps

Only if you also want to get a stomach from here to tokyo, eating before you sleep is absolutely terrible

What happens? 

[Ixarku]

Actually, a good thing to do is eat lots of food, making u sleeps

Only if you also want to get a stomach from here to tokyo, eating before you sleep is absolutely terrible

What happens? 

Acid indigestion.  Laying flat, the acid your stomach is producing to digest your food spreads out and blah blah blah something bad happens, resulting in stomach ache.  Digestive problems (Crohn’s disease, ulcers, gall bladder issues, probably acid reflux, etc) run in my family, so this is yet another thing I have to be careful of, too.  I can’t count the number of times I’ve woken up at 2am, even when my dinner was at 7 or 8pm, and spent an hour or more writhing in pain until the antiacid medication kicks in.  (Being sedentary doesn’t help, either.)  I’m glad I don’t have Crohn’s; those who have it have my deepest sympathies.

[mgz]

First thing first, 8 hours is not the de facto time every human needs to sleep. Generally, if you get more than ~5-6 hours, you're fine if you feel fine, if not, then sleep some more. Especially if you lead a sedentary life, a.k.a. your body doesn't need to fix muscle/bone tears or just general physical trauma on a day to day basis. No, wankers cramp does not count. Also, I remember reading a study that people who get ~6 hours of sleep a day tend to live longer than the lot doing 8.


Next, there is a distinction between a sleeping drugs and sedatives. Avoid sleeping drugs if they are not vital to your sleep. Sleeping drugs knock you out, they do not get you to actually sleep. A little alcohol works as a sedative, which helps one reduce the amount of time to fall to sleep. However, anything beyond the little, and your body has to kick itself into overdrive to balance your bodies chemical composition, which makes for quite a shitty night of sleep.


Now then, to actual things that will help you. The human body is a slave of habit, so learn to make use of that.

As mentioned, consistency is a good start. If you go to bed every day at 11pm, your body will memorize it and it will become easier to go sleep. Hell I don't even use an alarm clock, I always wake up at 5.55-6.00am. Why? Because I've been doing it for years and my body knows it.

Second, make sure that the bed or the bedroom (optionally, I know some people are basically stuck in a single room) only function is that of sleeping or sex, nothing else. Do not use your as a place to lie down, do not use it to read books, watch movies on your laptop... ect. If you can make your body memorize that the bed = sleep. It'll help a lot in the long run.

Whether exercise or caffeine, tea or warm milk will affect your sleep is very individual and the amount of the effect can range from a mild sedative or disturbance that can be ignored to a "you will not sleep" drug.


Also, if you do indeed sleep for ~8+ hours a night. It is not rare to wake up in the middle of the night after a few hours sleep. It is a natural adaptation to the long nights of the winter cycle. It's not a problem or an issue, just stay still for a few minutes and you'll fall asleep again.


For the blue light problem, there's a free program called F.lux, which adjust the "coldness" of the display based on the position of the sun. I'd recommend it if you use the computer throughout the day.

its also not uncommon for people to be fine on 3-5 hours of sleep.

[tomoya-kun]

First thing first, 8 hours is not the de facto time every human needs to sleep. Generally, if you get more than ~5-6 hours, you're fine if you feel fine, if not, then sleep some more. Especially if you lead a sedentary life, a.k.a. your body doesn't need to fix muscle/bone tears or just general physical trauma on a day to day basis. No, wankers cramp does not count. Also, I remember reading a study that people who get ~6 hours of sleep a day tend to live longer than the lot doing 8.


Next, there is a distinction between a sleeping drugs and sedatives. Avoid sleeping drugs if they are not vital to your sleep. Sleeping drugs knock you out, they do not get you to actually sleep. A little alcohol works as a sedative, which helps one reduce the amount of time to fall to sleep. However, anything beyond the little, and your body has to kick itself into overdrive to balance your bodies chemical composition, which makes for quite a shitty night of sleep.


Now then, to actual things that will help you. The human body is a slave of habit, so learn to make use of that.

As mentioned, consistency is a good start. If you go to bed every day at 11pm, your body will memorize it and it will become easier to go sleep. Hell I don't even use an alarm clock, I always wake up at 5.55-6.00am. Why? Because I've been doing it for years and my body knows it.

Second, make sure that the bed or the bedroom (optionally, I know some people are basically stuck in a single room) only function is that of sleeping or sex, nothing else. Do not use your as a place to lie down, do not use it to read books, watch movies on your laptop... ect. If you can make your body memorize that the bed = sleep. It'll help a lot in the long run.

Whether exercise or caffeine, tea or warm milk will affect your sleep is very individual and the amount of the effect can range from a mild sedative or disturbance that can be ignored to a "you will not sleep" drug.


Also, if you do indeed sleep for ~8+ hours a night. It is not rare to wake up in the middle of the night after a few hours sleep. It is a natural adaptation to the long nights of the winter cycle. It's not a problem or an issue, just stay still for a few minutes and you'll fall asleep again.


For the blue light problem, there's a free program called F.lux, which adjust the "coldness" of the display based on the position of the sun. I'd recommend it if you use the computer throughout the day.

its also not uncommon for people to be fine on 3-5 hours of sleep.

I do it but its not fun

[jetoxxx]

More sleep deprivation will make you sleep, but I don't think that's healthy. Try Unisom or some other non addictive sleep aid. Lay in a comfortable place with no TV or computer. Make sure it's dark. Sweet dreams.

[Saras]

First thing first, 8 hours is not the de facto time every human needs to sleep. Generally, if you get more than ~5-6 hours, you're fine if you feel fine, if not, then sleep some more. Especially if you lead a sedentary life, a.k.a. your body doesn't need to fix muscle/bone tears or just general physical trauma on a day to day basis. No, wankers cramp does not count. Also, I remember reading a study that people who get ~6 hours of sleep a day tend to live longer than the lot doing 8.


Next, there is a distinction between a sleeping drugs and sedatives. Avoid sleeping drugs if they are not vital to your sleep. Sleeping drugs knock you out, they do not get you to actually sleep. A little alcohol works as a sedative, which helps one reduce the amount of time to fall to sleep. However, anything beyond the little, and your body has to kick itself into overdrive to balance your bodies chemical composition, which makes for quite a shitty night of sleep.


Now then, to actual things that will help you. The human body is a slave of habit, so learn to make use of that.

As mentioned, consistency is a good start. If you go to bed every day at 11pm, your body will memorize it and it will become easier to go sleep. Hell I don't even use an alarm clock, I always wake up at 5.55-6.00am. Why? Because I've been doing it for years and my body knows it.

Second, make sure that the bed or the bedroom (optionally, I know some people are basically stuck in a single room) only function is that of sleeping or sex, nothing else. Do not use your as a place to lie down, do not use it to read books, watch movies on your laptop... ect. If you can make your body memorize that the bed = sleep. It'll help a lot in the long run.

Whether exercise or caffeine, tea or warm milk will affect your sleep is very individual and the amount of the effect can range from a mild sedative or disturbance that can be ignored to a "you will not sleep" drug.


Also, if you do indeed sleep for ~8+ hours a night. It is not rare to wake up in the middle of the night after a few hours sleep. It is a natural adaptation to the long nights of the winter cycle. It's not a problem or an issue, just stay still for a few minutes and you'll fall asleep again.


For the blue light problem, there's a free program called F.lux, which adjust the "coldness" of the display based on the position of the sun. I'd recommend it if you use the computer throughout the day.

its also not uncommon for people to be fine on 3-5 hours of sleep.

The number of people who are fully functional and productive with less, than 5 hours of sleep a night on a day to day basis is very low. There are some such cases, but chances are, you're not one of em and neither is anyone in the forums.

Normal people can technically live with around 4 hours of sleep a day, but if you keep it up, those days will likely be ones of lethargy. Also, in recent studies, a link between sleep deprivation and depression has been established and in a lot of cases, that is given as the reason for rise in the commonness of depression since the second half of the 20th century in the developed areas of the world.

[ichigoTAN]

Hmm, I used to pull all-nighters, and then go to school, needless to say, I wasn't able to perform well, but it was necessary to get my homework done. I'd do one of the following things-

- sleep a few hours when I got back, and then wait until I was supposed to sleep
- sleep fully out although that forced me to stay in bed quite a long time while not being able to sleep
- go out and run 4km, it's enough to make you tired though you have to wait until you're supposed to sleep
- watch one movie before sleeping, put on a no-brainer movie like Transformers

what not to do-

- play a game
- drink coffee (you don't really realize it's late until you look at the time since you don't feel sleepy at all, but it's also hard to get sleepy once you decide to hit the sack)

ichigoTAN, that sounds really unhealthy, perhaps find a game that doesn't require you to miss out on sleep?

I've been sleeping somewhat normally since I finished studying, and I feel great. Then again, am almost 23 instead of 20 when I started studying...

My rank of that game being on top is the result of those miss-out sleeps hahaha!

Edit: *BUMP

If I may ask again... Will it be alright if I didn't sleep for 7-8 hours straight... Let's say 4 hours, is it alright if I sleep again for 3-4 hours just to accumulate 7-8 hours? Because my uncle said it is OK as long as I complete the normal hours regardless of waking up from time to time...