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help me buy a new comp
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on July 18, 2011, 06:13:24 PM ---this is so wrong, what datora meant by use a WD black for OS is IF you are going to use a HDD for the OS instead and arent going SSD based.
for the same price(thinking about 150$) you could get like 128GB of SSD plus the fact that the OS barely even uses 30GB...
imho 60GB SSD for OS and 1TB HDD on main storage should be your primary goal, any excess should be done externally(NAS, bah even USB 3.0 based is enough as a storage) or at least do it on a different HDD.
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I don't know about you, but it looks to me like he doesn't want an SSD. So he would be fulfilling the condition of "if you're going to use a HDD for the OS."
And keep his initial conditions in mind when you recommend stuff. He quite clearly stated he wants 2TB of storage. A NAS would overshoot his budget, and an external would heat up too much if he uses it too frequently.
Nyking: That said, I do agree that you should take a look at SSDs, unless you're using XP or lower, since they don't natively support them as well as Vista and 7, so you would need to do a lot more tweaking than you would if you used Vista/7. A 1TB Black is $90, right? You can't get a decently-sized SSD for that price (you're looking at 60GB or lower, and they're not that great), but if you're willing to go up to $160-200 you can get a good one in the 120GB range. The performance boost from that is, IMO, more than enough to justify the cost.
Well, if you still want the Black, that's fine too. Do make sure you get the 64MB cache model, though. It's $2 more than the 32MB cache model. At least, that's how it is in Canada.
--- Quote from: datora on July 18, 2011, 06:35:17 PM ---... they transfer data at very fast speeds, even for SATA II 5400RPM drives.
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You should know that no HDD can transfer data at SATA II speeds. The fastest HDDs can only just overshoot the SATA I specs.
Meomix:
--- Quote from: Freedom Kira on July 18, 2011, 06:43:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: kitamesume on July 18, 2011, 06:13:24 PM ---this is so wrong, what datora meant by use a WD black for OS is IF you are going to use a HDD for the OS instead and arent going SSD based.
for the same price(thinking about 150$) you could get like 128GB of SSD plus the fact that the OS barely even uses 30GB...
imho 60GB SSD for OS and 1TB HDD on main storage should be your primary goal, any excess should be done externally(NAS, bah even USB 3.0 based is enough as a storage) or at least do it on a different HDD.
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I don't know about you, but it looks to me like he doesn't want an SSD. So he would be fulfilling the condition of "if you're going to use a HDD for the OS."
And keep his initial conditions in mind when you recommend stuff. He quite clearly stated he wants 2TB of storage. A NAS would overshoot his budget, and an external would heat up too much if he uses it too frequently.
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Eh i have an external hardisk with air vents that has been on for 5 weeks, it's within the safe zone right?
kitamesume:
i was thinking if it was 150$ meh, the WD black that i remembered was the 2TB that the other thread has his eyes on =P ohh well.
@Meomix
yes it is, so long as it has fans on it, and is not reaching more than 80c.
anyway, i`m seeing an overkill rig that would be sitting on a bench doing "some stuffs" plus "not so heavy gaming", what i`d consider heavy gaming is if he starts going 1440p and above plus 3D? meh, which i doubt would be even possible on one 23" screen, looking at reviews 1920x1080 games(excluding crysis and metro) only requires an athlon II X4 + HD6850 to make it run at high with a stable 60FPS.
Nyking754:
games i play- final fantasy 14 (big fan of the series), warcraft, starcraft, League of legends, crysis, GTA4, Cod
and i dont want to update my video card every few months so i want one that can last for at least a year and is able to play games that is coming out next year
i might consider getting a ssd but how much faster is a ssd? :-\
also i need a large storage for anime and torrenting reasons as ill be leaving my comp on all day
datora:
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--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 18, 2011, 07:48:52 PM ---i might consider getting a ssd but how much faster is a ssd? :-\
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They are mad faster than a mechanical drive. BUT you'll need to understand a couple things about them for realistic expectations and so that you get a good one ... there is older tech that is being liquidated right now and it is less reliable and has lower performance than others.
Start with this topic:
> Technology > ssd recommendations?
Also, several other topics related to building systems discuss SSD specifications and performance, and often mention/link to specific models of interest.
--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 18, 2011, 07:48:52 PM ---also i need a large storage for anime and torrenting reasons as ill be leaving my comp on all day
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That 4 TB storage solution I mentioned on the previous page of this topic ... I torrent off that and it stays icy cold, while streaming anime and music off it simultaneously.
[ EDIT: moar on SSD:
You can do your system build using something like the WD Caviar Black I recommended. Get your whole system built, installed, running sweet and all burned in properly. You can buy an SSD later, like October or December and migrate your entire operating system over to it. The prices will come down a good bit by then, and you'll get a better SSD for your money, both in performance and reliability. It will also give you enough time to read up on them so you can make a wise choice and use it to your best advantage. ]
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