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help me buy a new comp
krumm:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on July 19, 2011, 05:57:02 AM ---...
--- Quote from: krumm on July 19, 2011, 12:23:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 18, 2011, 10:53:37 PM ---hey many of u guys are telling me i should over clock my comp and i know what it is but how do u do it and how effective is it? ???
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Overclocking is good for people that want to get every bit of power out of their computer, but most of the time you will only notice a true improvement on benchmarks and nothing else. I prefer to down-volt my self, but most people will say that is stupid.
It is not hard to get a basic overclock if you decide to do so, and there is not much risk if do not up the voltage.
If you want to over clock I recommended an unlocked CPU because it makes things easier.
--- End quote ---
wait, who's saying its stupid? i`m not saying its stupid, i currently am doing it on my i3-2100(duh i cant overclock it, might as well downvolt it) i`m running it @ 0.650volts at idle.
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I could not even tell you how many stupid comments I have been told about down-volting. I wanted to tell the op that overclocking is not the only option and down-volting is a viable alternative no matter what someone else may say. I prefer to down-volt becuase I can see a real difference with it when overclocking only gives a few points on a benchmark. I like to see lower temps when some like to see high scores.
datora:
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New E-Blast newsletter from newegg from this morning. It's a Good Idea to sign up for this and check the deals as they are published.
Oh, look, RAM:
- G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
for $60 delivered, with promo code EMCKCJA24
This is the exact same RAM I bought for my system, exact same deal. You won't do better than this (right now); it's exceptionally solid memory with a lifetime warranty on it. It's also a certified matched set, so if they don't play well with each other for some reason, G.Skill will replace the set under warranty. You can poke around and try to find 1800 or 1833 or 2100 RAM ... but, really, not worth the price bump. Well, unless you got something reliable at about this same price.
This memory is reported stable overclock at 1800/1833. I intend to try it once my system is burned in, but not too concerned if it doesn't work ... 1600 is damned fast. I'd rather try to adjust the timings down to 8-8-8-24, which I've seen, and try to undervolt it a touch, as krumm has suggested. If you can do that stable, the memory will run cooler and (theoretically) have an extended life expectancy. Same philosophy applies to CPUs & GPUs.
This case:
- Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
is a gold standard for computer cases. With promo code EMCKCJA32 and after rebate, it will be $60 delivered. Free shipping is always great, especially on bulky items like this. If I had to choose between my Lian Li case ($50) and this one, I probably would have got this one for the extra $10, based upon name brand and rep. However, I lucked out, and the Lian Li turned out to be a really outstanding deal. I'm very happy with it. Although it comes with fewer fans, it also doesn't have the side window and blue lights everywhere ... some things that I do not consider to be desirable "features."
A power supply:
- OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular
Promo code EMCKCJA34 and then a rebate brings it down to $50 delivered. So long as you stick with a single video card, 700 watts is overpowered for you, even if you push your overclocking and run 6 mechanical HDDs. Has teh "80 plus" eco rating for efficiency, a feature that you should consider 'must have' for reasons I mentioned before. The "modular" is a nice extra; it lets you pick & choose which cables you need to reduce management and clutter and help tweak airflow through your case (which should NOT be a problem with the Antec 900 above).
There are many PSU options, so don't feel like you have to jump on this one ... it's just an example of features, size and cost that you can get if you watch for it. Cooler Master, Antec, Corsair, Coolmax are all good alternates ... just don't pay a stupid premium for a brand name.
By The Way, this is the DVD burner you want:
- ASUS 24X DVD Burner DVD±R [all formats, etc.] Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
$19.99 delivered. If you don't get it under this special, just wait and keep looking ... it comes around about once a month at this price @newegg.
I've had five of these (some were older 18x models). I've ripped over 6,000 CDs and a couple hundred DVDs with these, especially if you downspeed them they are magnificent and extract perfect data copies. Left three in Latvia and have two now. One is PATA, the other SATA. If you get a mobo w/ a PATA controller, you can connect your DVD &/or CD drive(s) and save yourself a couple of SATA connections. A normal burner cannot use the larger data pipeline of a SATA connection; a PATA (at 100 UDMA) is more than fast enough for all read & burn functions.
It's getting really hard to find PATA drives anymore. Just a tip on how to use a PATA controller if you have one. HOWEVER, if you make the jump to a blu-ray player/burner ... I'm not sure if a PATA controller would bottleneck it (if they even make blu-ray drives for PATA!).
Anyway, this ASUS drive is a gold standard for performance and reliability; for this price it's unbeatable. The black interior is supposed to help with read/write reliability by cutting light & reflection pollution that can interfere with the laser so, if you go with another brand, definitely look for the black interior tray.
Pretty solid, basic monitor:
- ASUS VE247H Black 23.6" 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor w/Speakers
After promo EMCKCJA46 and rebate, $160 delivered. I don't like speakers included with my monitors, but I list this an as example of a fairly decent entry-level monitor. You can certainly go higher end, but this will still take care of you. One possibility, if you need to keep to budget, is get something similar to this one now, then add a second monitor to your system in a few months when you have time to scrape together some cash and research more carefully what will actually be a higher-performance model.
Nyking754:
new cart list i think i might go with these
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1
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118039
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$19.99
1
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99
1
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152245
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$89.99
$79.99
1
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128510
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$149.99
$139.99
1
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
Item #: N82E16833127218
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$50.00 Instant
$99.99
$49.99
1
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Item #: N82E16823126041
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant
$31.99
$28.99
1
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
Item #: N82E16826999027
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$1.00 Instant
$4.99
$3.99
1
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
Item #: N82E16835118074
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.51 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate35-118-074
$79.99
$76.48
1
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Item #: N82E16826158082
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99
1
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
*
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824009305
Return Policy: Monitor Standard Return Policy
*
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814150506
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate14-150-506
$394.98
$334.98
1
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
*
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ...
Item #: N82E16817153106
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
*
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231428
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant
-$25.00 Combo
$214.98
$174.98
1
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Item #: N82E16820139291
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$7.99 Saving
$7.99
$0.00
1
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
*
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
Item #: N82E16819103913
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$25.00 Combo
$189.99
$164.99
Subtotal: $1,204.35
Don't want to wait for shipping! Try our new Will Call service.(learn more)
Some products can be picked up at our warehouse in City Of Industry, CA.(see address and hours)
Use Will-Call
Calculate ShippingZip Code: 11204
Shipping: $25.05
1
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
*
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811139003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card11-139-003
$159.99
$149.99
Subtotal: $149.99
krumm:
--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 19, 2011, 08:05:06 PM ---new cart list i think i might go with these
(click to show/hide)Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118039
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$19.99
1
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99
1
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152245
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$89.99
$79.99
1
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128510
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$149.99
$139.99
1
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
Item #: N82E16833127218
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$50.00 Instant
$99.99
$49.99
1
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Item #: N82E16823126041
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant
$31.99
$28.99
1
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
Item #: N82E16826999027
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$1.00 Instant
$4.99
$3.99
1
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
Item #: N82E16835118074
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.51 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate35-118-074
$79.99
$76.48
1
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Item #: N82E16826158082
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99
1
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
*
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824009305
Return Policy: Monitor Standard Return Policy
*
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814150506
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate14-150-506
$394.98
$334.98
1
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
*
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ...
Item #: N82E16817153106
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
*
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231428
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant
-$25.00 Combo
$214.98
$174.98
1
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Item #: N82E16820139291
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$7.99 Saving
$7.99
$0.00
1
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
*
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
Item #: N82E16819103913
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$25.00 Combo
$189.99
$164.99
Subtotal: $1,204.35
Don't want to wait for shipping! Try our new Will Call service.(learn more)
Some products can be picked up at our warehouse in City Of Industry, CA.(see address and hours)
Use Will-Call
Calculate ShippingZip Code: 11204
Shipping: $25.05
1
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
*
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811139003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card11-139-003
$159.99
$149.99
Subtotal: $149.99
--- End quote ---
I have used that keyboard/mouse combo and can tell you that the keyboard is good, but the mouse sucks. The other thing that stands out is the wifi card. Is there a reason you want wifi, because if you can run a cable it is a lot better.
Nyking754:
--- Quote from: krumm on July 19, 2011, 08:33:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 19, 2011, 08:05:06 PM ---new cart list i think i might go with these
(click to show/hide)Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B - OEM
Item #: N82E16827118039
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$19.99
1
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$89.99
1
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152245
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$89.99
$79.99
1
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128510
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$149.99
$139.99
1
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
D-Link DWA-556 PCI Express Xtreme Desktop Adapter
Item #: N82E16833127218
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$50.00 Instant
$99.99
$49.99
1
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Logitech Cordless Desktop EX 100 Black USB RF Wireless Standard Keyboard and Mouse
Item #: N82E16823126041
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant
$31.99
$28.99
1
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
BELKIN F8E081-RED Standard Mouse Pad
Item #: N82E16826999027
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$1.00 Instant
$4.99
$3.99
1
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED
Item #: N82E16835118074
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.51 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate35-118-074
$79.99
$76.48
1
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset
Item #: N82E16826158082
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99
1
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
*
Acer G245HQAbd Black 23.6" Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor
Item #: N82E16824009305
Return Policy: Monitor Standard Return Policy
*
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
Item #: N82E16814150506
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$40.00 Instant
-$20.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate14-150-506
$394.98
$334.98
1
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
*
Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active ...
Item #: N82E16817153106
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
*
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
Item #: N82E16820231428
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$15.00 Instant
-$25.00 Combo
$214.98
$174.98
1
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Kingston DataTraveler 100 Generation 2 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Model DT100G2/4GBZ
Item #: N82E16820139291
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$7.99 Saving
$7.99
$0.00
1
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
*
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
Item #: N82E16819103913
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$25.00 Combo
$189.99
$164.99
Subtotal: $1,204.35
Don't want to wait for shipping! Try our new Will Call service.(learn more)
Some products can be picked up at our warehouse in City Of Industry, CA.(see address and hours)
Use Will-Call
Calculate ShippingZip Code: 11204
Shipping: $25.05
1
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
*
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811139003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card11-139-003
$159.99
$149.99
Subtotal: $149.99
--- End quote ---
I have used that keyboard/mouse combo and can tell you that the keyboard is good, but the mouse sucks. The other thing that stands out is the wifi card. Is there a reason you want wifi, because if you can run a cable it is a lot better.
--- End quote ---
i dont want to use the cable because im going to have to drill through the wall if i run the cable and also i have a router already
also i dropped the sony dvd player for the ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM in a combo with the samsung hdd
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