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help me buy a new comp
datora:
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You can knock ~$200 off that cart by going with some of the recommends I've made:
RAM + PSU combo: $60 + $50 = $110 instead of $175, save $65
Case: $60 instead of $150, save $90
HDD: WD Caviar black 500 GB ($60) instead of 1 TB ($90), save $30
And, you could save a little bit more, like maybe go with a x4 core Deneb instead of x6 core Thubin for the CPU.
Meaning you could get a free high-capacity/performance SATA III SSD on that same $1200 budget (your mouse/keyboard would also be "free"). Just my first reaction.
Don't know if you're planning to buy a legit copy of Win7 or not; if you are, watch for an OEM copy for system builders. The Win7 Pro edition goes on sale for ~$125 semi-regularly, and the Home ~$85, unless you're really set on Ultimate, or will go with "other" options.
I see your point about wireless network, but for me it's a non-starter: hard cable every time. If you're going WiFi, very definitely learn how to use advanced options & encryption to secure your network; bandwidth thieves can cause you enormous legal problems, apart from any personal data that might get compromised. Also, I'm not a big fan of wireless mice/keyboards. Have has several and just don't like wasting batteries on them; pointless overhead cost. But, your mouse/keyboard combo is actually a pretty good price, and your choice.
[ EDIT: hmmm. Noticed the aftermarket cooling block isn't in your budget yet. There should also have been a discussion about a proper surge protector, &plus (maybe) a UPS back-up battery. Both are excellent considerations. ]
Nyking754:
--- Quote from: datora on July 19, 2011, 10:02:47 PM ---.
You can knock ~$200 off that cart by going with some of the recommends I've made:
RAM + PSU combo: $60 + $50 = $110 instead of $175, save $65
Case: $60 instead of $150, save $90
HDD: WD Caviar black 500 GB ($60) instead of 1 TB ($90), save $30
And, you could save a little bit more, like maybe go with a x4 core Deneb instead of x6 core Thubin for the CPU.
Meaning you could get a free high-capacity/performance SATA III SSD on that same $1200 budget (your mouse/keyboard would also be "free"). Just my first reaction.
Don't know if you're planning to buy a legit copy of Win7 or not; if you are, watch for an OEM copy for system builders. The Win7 Pro edition goes on sale for ~$125 semi-regularly, and the Home ~$85, unless you're really set on Ultimate, or will go with "other" options.
I see your point about wireless network, but for me it's a non-starter: hard cable every time. If you're going WiFi, very definitely learn how to use advanced options & encryption to secure your network; bandwidth thieves can cause you enormous legal problems, apart from any personal data that might get compromised. Also, I'm not a big fan of wireless mice/keyboards. Have has several and just don't like wasting batteries on them; pointless overhead cost. But, your mouse/keyboard combo is actually a pretty good price, and your choice.
[ EDIT: hmmm. Noticed the aftermarket cooling block isn't in your budget yet. There should also have been a discussion about a proper surge protector, &plus (maybe) a UPS back-up battery. Both are excellent considerations. ]
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i put the ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED on my list is it not good?
kitamesume:
you already got 2TB of HDD and want to add in another 1TB? using it as an OS to boot? make up your mind lol.
IF, i repeat, IF you really want a phenom II x6, get the freakin 1055T, you could shave like 20$ off. you dont need a black edition to rip your clocks, the normal ones can still reach 3.5-4ghz, plus i can see that you have little to no interest in overclocking as well.
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one question though, why do you want a X6? its been like 2years? since the 6cores has been released and i still have yet to see a game that supports it, maybe after 5years or so then a couple of games that supports more cores would be made but what? its not like they wont support lesser cores >,> heck even the 2cores right now are enough to run seriously heavy games(crysis & metro).
datora:
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--- Quote from: Nyking754 on July 19, 2011, 11:24:21 PM ---i put the ZALMAN CNPS9900MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler Blue LED on my list is it not good?
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Sorry, my bad. When I read the list, for some reason I thought it was an extra cooling fan for the case. From the quick read I just took at the feedback, you should be quite happy with the performance. Installing a cooling block is one of the slightly tricky things you'll do on the build, and it is critical to get it right or the CPU will run much hotter than it needs to. Strongly suggest you look through the feedback section at newegg for the product & search youtube for some instructional videos since you don't seem to have done this before.
When you apply the thermal compound, you don't need much, the rule of thumb is "a grain of rice" or maybe slightly larger. When you spread it on your CPU/heatsink surfaces, make sure that you use something that leaves not even a particle of dust (a clean plastic spatula with smooth edge, for example) ... at the CPU-heatsink interface level, something half the thickness of your hair is like a giant boulder and can seriously degrade the efficiency of heat exchange at contact surfaces.
The Zalman is a solid name brand and it looks real spank, but you can save $42 by considering the XIGMATEK BALDER SD1283 120mm Long Life CPU Cooler ACK-I5361 I suggested earlier. It will perform pretty much the same (from what I can tell), especially for this build. The Zalman might run slightly quieter when the fan is at low speeds (the CPU is under low load and already cool), but at it's upper end it's actually slightly louder than the XigmaTech.
Another consideration: the XigmaTech uses a standard fan, which can be replaced by another ultra-silent one when it begins to go (pretty much all fans do after 2+ years). Something goes wrong with the Zalman (unlikely, I admit, but ...) and you have to get the replacement from Zalman. The XigmaTech, additionally, supports having two fans attached to it, if you need them: one pushing the air through with the other pulling the air through. Feedback is mixed on how much extra cooling that provides, but the consensus is that it does provide extra capacity while remaining fairly quiet.
About the x4 core v x6 core: kitamesume makes a valid point. However, I'm not gonna knock on you for going with it. It's sexy, and only $20. You'll get some epeen bragging rights on it, and you'll have the capacity on your system to explore and try to make use of it. I think we'll see support for x6 core and up a bit sooner than kitamesume suggests.
But I'll add this on for thinking about. By 2012 there will be established and stable bulldozer CPUs that will fit your board. Some monster or another that kicks the Thubin x6 to the curb will be available for under $200. So, in 12 months you may well be able to grab one for ~$160-180-ish, or maybe even under depending on the exact model.
I'm suggesting that something like a x4 core Deneb, like I grabbed a 965 3.4 GHz for $120 last week, is a rock-solid CPU that you can clock at 3.8 GHz and even 4 GHz with ease & safety. It will eat pretty much any game you can throw at it alive and spit the bones out. If some new gaming sweetness comes along by next June or so, you could then jump your CPU into the next generation and reset your rig's life expectancy into 2015-ish or so.
Just for thinking about.
kitamesume:
guys, hold your horses, i think i found a great drive =D
[110$]Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
and
[110$]Western Digital Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
its like buying 500GB of WD Black for 28$ each lol.
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