Star Wars the Old Republic: Limited Pre-order is now available.

[vicious796]

Really, though? I think the environment in SW:TOR is awesome - the character models are the only things that are lacking. The planets look great, the cities are fantastic, the reflections are done well... I haven't run into any sizable bodies of water yet but I hear they're great too.

[shabutie]

Graphics remind me of Mass Effect. (And for a good reason )

[Sakubo]

So nobody here is yet at 50 level to tell me about end game content? I already found a guy that powerlevels 1-50 for just 180USD, but I need to know if the end game content is worth it or not.

This game is just like wow the only thing to do at end game is pvp or raid. Neither are very useful. There are only like 2 major raid zones and pvp is sorta broken on non high pop or pvp server since they braceted 50's into there own battlegroup. The game isnt bad but right now I dont see it lasting longer term. Bascially the most fun you have is leveling the characters up to play through the different characters class quests. Once that is finished the game is sorta boring and you can either reroll or do what I said above raid and pvp. If your someone like me that has alot of time to play this game is seriously lacking right now. I have a character at 50 already with full teir 2 pvp set. Im already rank 60 valor and started collecting my teir 3 pieces (the highest in the game) The problem is teir 3 can only be gotten by doing the daily/weekly quest so once those are done bascailly I have no reason to use that toon until my guild raids. So I been playing alts but once they are 50 thats pretty much it. Leveling is to fast and there isnt enough to do at max level. This game suffers from the same problem all the cookie cutter mmos latly have. Wow then Rift and now this one. They need to stop copying the crap end game formula and give poeple a reason to play there character for more than 2 hrs a day.

[lazarus626]

This game is just like wow the only thing to do at end game is pvp or raid. Neither are very useful. There are only like 2 major raid zones and pvp is sorta broken on non high pop or pvp server since they braceted 50's into there own battlegroup. The game isnt bad but right now I dont see it lasting longer term. Bascially the most fun you have is leveling the characters up to play through the different characters class quests. Once that is finished the game is sorta boring and you can either reroll or do what I said above raid and pvp. If your someone like me that has alot of time to play this game is seriously lacking right now. I have a character at 50 already with full teir 2 pvp set. Im already rank 60 valor and started collecting my teir 3 pieces (the highest in the game) The problem is teir 3 can only be gotten by doing the daily/weekly quest so once those are done bascailly I have no reason to use that toon until my guild raids. So I been playing alts but once they are 50 thats pretty much it. Leveling is to fast and there isnt enough to do at max level. This game suffers from the same problem all the cookie cutter mmos latly have. Wow then Rift and now this one. They need to stop copying the crap end game formula and give poeple a reason to play there character for more than 2 hrs a day.

Ah.. that's disappointing..

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It seems only a few games are actually worthy of becoming MMOs, since most of them just ends up feeling like a glorified single player game with lots of grinding and chatter. (I still think this would've been better played as a single player)

I also think sandbox type games are the best suited to becoming MMOs, just like what EVE online did.

I just wish they finally add mobile drop suits and allow planet colonization, Since outer space is such a big pile of emptiness and most of the time you'll be fighting against stuff from far away that you can barely even see what they look like.. But I digress..

[AceHigh]

Sakubo, thank you for that info. I think if this game was also sold as single player game, I would probably play it like the other KOTOR games. However I feel that it is unjustified to pay a monthly subscription to play TOR as single player game, since it apparently has few merits as a multiplayer game.

Looks like it's settled then, I will wait for GW2 instead.

[Sakubo]

Sakubo, thank you for that info. I think if this game was also sold as single player game, I would probably play it like the other KOTOR games. However I feel that it is unjustified to pay a monthly subscription to play TOR as single player game, since it apparently has few merits as a multiplayer game.

Looks like it's settled then, I will wait for GW2 instead.

The game isnt bad. If you like single player story stuff like dragon age or kotor or mass effect then this game would be good for at least the free month. I mean honestly the single player aspect, the class storys are really well done. Its just the end game that needs alot of work. If you dont mind playing different characters to play each of there storys it could last you a few months. I think the purchase is worth the 50 bucks for one month at least since you will get at least as much in the one month on one character as you would any single player rpg. I just cant see people not getting bored after a few months unless they are a completionist were they have to try every single light / dark side answer for each character type.

[xfreidax]

Not to mention, it has probably the most retarded pvp in any mmo in recent memory. The warzones I'm not gonna comment. A bg is a bg. They're same in every single game.

But the open world pvp is so retarded, it just keeps getting worse with each patch. And with the rng system they use for pvp gear, it makes the entire experience an excruciating grind. Coupled with the fact warzone queues can bug for no reason and stay bugged for hours, preventing entire servers from accessing warzones.... A lot of pvp guilds on my server have already unsubbed.

The pve endgame can be fun. Bioware raids are nothing new but they do have some fun encounters. But it's so buggy, I'm convince this title is gonna bomb pretty soon if they don't buck up real fast. Once the masses hit level cap and experience this buggy crap, they will lose subs in droves.

Apparently EA spent 200 mil making this game. They are so fucked.

[Slysoft]

This game is basically wow with lightsabers, only 100x more glitchy and less to do. If you like leveling characters this beats wow but if you like playing a game then you might as well play wow since its the same thing. I know wow clone is overused but seriously its the same game but with lightsabers.