Author Topic: Black★Rock Shooter TV Anime (Read 7347 times)

datora · « **Reply #60 on:** February 17, 2012, 04:19:26 PM »

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Ep 03 out and ... looks like it's getting better.

[WhyNot] and [Commie] have some very interesting divergences in translation at several key points. Kudo's to [WhyNot] for translating more background signs & book titles & such, even when not needed. Nice touch ... and a key letter is translated @~14:30 that [Commie] didn't. Was it necessary for the plot? No. But, helped set that scene even better with it.

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We get treated to a beautiful reading segment from the Little Bird story. Hope there's more of that ... seems inevitable as it also seems tied into the main plot. Some great artwork touches throughout the show, this book and a painting Yomi is working on.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #61 on:** February 24, 2012, 08:18:16 AM »

+5000
for this show

I'm in love with it. The OVA arc started and it looks delicious. The alternate universe animation is so damn awesome.

I've been right from the very beginning, This is a true gem among recent anime's !

datora · « **Reply #62 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:40:03 AM »

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I have totally NOT understood the lack of interest &/or hate on this show. It's a lot of fun. I think it's got one of the better mixes of psychological and action ever blended. Very dramatic switch between the abstract/surreal and "reality."

One of the fansub group pages I visited actually had a comment like: 'too bad there is so much school girl crap cause the shooting the fuck out of things is teh awesomes.' I have a hard time thinking that a group with that attitude can possible do a decent job on an anime where they totally miss out on what "awesome" means.

The only thing that's starting to wear on me is the vocals for the OP. Her voice is starting to irritate the fuck out of me.

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Scene from Ep. 02 @~5:10, Kuroi makes pretty clear observation that Saya-sensei tells lies. On the one hand, the obvious thing to think is that the counselor is some kind of evils in this story, perhaps some sort of goddess of pain and feeds on the hurt. In this analysis, she is deliberately setting up conflict between various individuals. Perhaps it's even "better" the closer the friends are ... somehow it creates more "something" (pain, psych damage, whatever the goal is).

A lot of evidence might support this. Same Ep. 02 @~10:25, Saya-sensei observes that the dreams of friends are connected, for example. That's over-the-top. Any rational, reality-based counselor would never say such a thing and be serious about it, especially to young school children. It's mystical mumbo-jumbo. Except, in this world, she seems to clearly have a higher understanding of what is going on.

She has coffee cups that match the symbols for each individual in play, and keeps a marked profile on the relationships between them. But, it's her creepy smile where she seems to take pleasure in the pain of others ...

I note that she doesn't necessarily make coffee correctly for each student. I strongly suspect she's putting something in the coffee, too. Besides the point of feeding coffee to middle-shoolers ..?! It's a deliberate method of putting someone ill at ease and seeding discomfort and insecurity. That's in addition to her deceptive words & outright lies. What the hell is the agenda behind that?

However, that all may be deliberate misleading of the viewer by the authors. Too obvious? The flip side is that maybe she has a much higher understanding of what is going on and she is trying to manipulate the strongest players into becoming stronger for the greater good of all of them. She bears (at least some of) the pain herself to reduce the burden on others so they can continue.

A good counselor, for example, wouldn't coddle a patient in some cases. Telling someone that "nobody needs you" could be a very valid and necessary thing to say to someone to slap them in the face a bit and make them start paying attention to reality. The presentation of it in BRS seems overly brutal, but it might just be a bit of a mislead for sake of the plot on a valid psychological technique.

The most fucked up thing, to me, revealed in Ep. 04 is that the memories of the girls are being fucked with. And, not in trivial ways. It's like the events that cause pain are being erased as the pain is being fed on. Or, memories are being erased/blocked/changed in ways that cause the greatest pain and insecurity and disturbance in someone else ... growing the circle of psychological trauma beyond two or three individuals and expanding it.

Someone is deliberately creating damage, seeding 'evil' to cause conflict and pain. The fulcrum here, is it Saya-sensei? Or, perhaps she has to use her knowledge secretly to counter what someone else is attempting? Maybe it's some sort of Ender's Game plot, where she's trying to find/create a particularly strong protagonist (or group) that can be prepared to take on something much more profound than just their schoolgirl emotional baggage.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #63 on:** February 25, 2012, 09:48:40 AM »

@Memories:

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We are now at the point where OVA started, leaving us with 4(?) episodes of main arc.

As for the OP, I actually like it a lot, I tried to find it on TT but to no avail.
ED song is also really nice.

Quote from: datora on February 25, 2012, 08:40:03 AM

One of the fansub group pages I visited actually had a comment like: 'too bad there is so much school girl crap cause the shooting the fuck out of things is teh awesomes.' I have a hard time thinking that a group with that attitude can possible do a decent job on an anime where they totally miss out on what "awesome" means.

Lack of understanding the base of the events, if it wasn't for the "school girls crap" there wouldn't be the alter-verse where we would meet BRS and everything that happens there.

The OP animation also shows a vicious cycle of the girls "Avatars", one aiming at the other while another defends the aimed one and so on. This actually shows the paradox here, you can't make everyone happy, but you can actually try to make a set level of acceptable happiness. One where everyone is content to a degree, but not satisfied.

I'm hoping for the ending to be what I am thinking it will be. If i'm correct, we are up for a nice surprise.

GoGeTa006 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:02:40 PM »

damn! this is getting really fked up. . .
that counselor is freaky!. . .and Im assuming she is the red-eyed girl in that alternate world?

anyways, Im noticing that the characters that have that weird eye looking thing have their alter-egos in that world. . .cause that basketball chick (that dumped the guy so epicly) doesnt have her eyes like that and she didnt have a "fighter" in that alternate world. . .

so. . . Iono but im liking it

Havoc10K · « **Reply #65 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:08:50 PM »

I think there is to it about the eyes, but I also noticed that the less turmoil in the soul of the character the smaller the gears.

Just a guess, could be wrong.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #66 on:** March 01, 2012, 12:55:12 PM »

This question is for the OVA, is there a thread for the ova?

Just watched the DVD included with the BRS figma. If my memory serves right, Have you seen the character, Strength on the rips available here and in nyaa? I think I had not seen Strength (waggling her tail) on regular BD/DVD releases. Maybe I am wrong and I'm having a bad memory.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #67 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:19:01 PM »

Explain what you mean by Strength character. Provide image if you can.

I think I know who you mean though, in the TV version she didn't show up yet I think.
She is the "avatar" of Mato's childhood friend if my memory serves, so if she doesn't show up in this week's episode for more than 5 seconds, she will show up in the last two episodes I think.

I wonder if i'm correct on this.

kamuixtv99 · « **Reply #68 on:** March 01, 2012, 09:21:26 PM »

http://blackrockshooter.wikia.com/wiki/Strength

The art and their portrayal on TV is kinda retard. The OVA is better. It's like a redesigned from Huke.

falconmick · « **Reply #69 on:** March 02, 2012, 03:49:59 PM »

any1 else confused to the balls after epp 5???

Havoc10K · « **Reply #70 on:** March 02, 2012, 04:02:11 PM »

A bit, but not entirely, looks like Yuu doesn't want what the sensei wants.

abc cuz · « **Reply #71 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:40:17 PM »

ZOMG this show is actually the best, combines some of the most epic fight scenes in anime i've seen with an emotional psychological mindfuck, and its completely original. The author and the creators of this show have my eternal respect for actually taking on a challenge by making something so different and well crafted, rather than the a-typical anime so common lately.

remzonAnime · « **Reply #72 on:** March 03, 2012, 01:36:45 PM »

Definitely one of my favorites of 2012

datora · « **Reply #73 on:** March 03, 2012, 02:15:51 PM »

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Watched Ep. 05 while drunk and half asleep at ~2:00 a.m. ... definitely a mistake.

As I recall, I liked it a lot. Not the least clue what happened. Something about Yuu is become one of The Forgotten, yet seems to understand a lot more about what's happening then Mato ??

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Will have to re-watch ... I'm thinking Eps. 03 - 05 in one go to grok continuity.

I've been giving the [AFFTW-Hatsuyuki] collaborative effort a shot to see what differences in T/L will show up. Pretty respectable, effort from what I can tell. Worth checking into ... seems less localized and they retain honorifics, typesetting pretty nice, too.

Tatsujin · « **Reply #74 on:** March 05, 2012, 08:19:08 PM »

Description updated. First post.

abc cuz · « **Reply #75 on:** March 10, 2012, 12:51:49 AM »

omg, it makes me cry how good this show is. extra effect at the start of episode 6 in bringing the op song in before the actual op was ingenious!

datora · « **Reply #76 on:** March 10, 2012, 01:37:55 AM »

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I feel very, VERY vindicated in holding out hope that Sayachan-sensei turns out

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That cliché has been so overdone to death in so many anime that I would have about cried if they degraded & ruined Black Rock with it. Enormous amount of heart suddenly 'revealed,' as much as that could be a surprise 'reveal' based upon the previous Eps. & the OVA.

When the title of the episode appeared

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... it just immediately seized at my heart and imagination.

*fingerscrossedfingerscrossedfingerscrossed* They're gonna keep this up.
It's gonna be Really Good ... *fingerscrossedfingerscrossedfingerscrossed*

Havoc10K · « **Reply #77 on:** March 10, 2012, 07:56:24 AM »

The gears have changed, so now what will happen ?

abc cuz · « **Reply #78 on:** March 16, 2012, 08:02:15 AM »

Episode 7 - as epic as usual, but i just heard theres only gonna be 8 episodes in the series! Is this for real!? I'm hoping not, but wiki says the same, so... WHAT THE #@$% how can this be??? That's 4 less episodes of epicness, and that means next weeks is the last one!

Havoc10K · « **Reply #79 on:** March 16, 2012, 10:27:29 AM »

Because it's an epic story, and that's how it will end, epically.

I love this show, things that's transpired in this episode are epic, If blondie also reacts like this, it would mean that everything BRS did was meaningful.