Author Topic: Seedbox or VPN?  (Read 2014 times)

Offline zoomy123

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Seedbox or VPN?
« on: August 25, 2011, 05:43:10 PM »
Which one is better for anonymous downloading, and why? If you download through a seedbox, how easy is it for an ISP to track you? (I don't really know that much about either so an uncomplicated explanation is much appreciated.)

Also, where are some of the better places to purchase a seedbox or vpn?

Thanks.

Offline Slasha

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 05:49:55 PM »

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Offline zoomy123

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 07:48:40 PM »
I read through the thread and I have two questions. Although your initial download to the server is secure, apparently your isp will still be able to see what you're downloading once you download the files from your seedbox to your computer. How do you encrypt your ftp connection so that your isp can't see what you're downloading? In the other thread SFTP was mentioned; what is this and how do you set it up? Thanks.

Offline Freedom Kira

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 09:50:42 PM »
Is it really so hard to Google this? The first thing you should do when you see an acronym or some word you don't understand is to type it into Google. In Chrome and Firefox, it's as easy as hitting Ctrl + T, typing what you want to look up, and hitting Enter. It's far less work than typing that entire question out.

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 10:29:19 PM »
^ dude obviously haven't been in the internet for a long time.
pretty sure you didn't google stuff you don't know about before yourself, don't you?
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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 10:46:51 PM »
Thats that the sort of thing I would want to google.

Offline zoomy123

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 11:32:29 PM »
Is it really so hard to Google this? The first thing you should do when you see an acronym or some word you don't understand is to type it into Google. In Chrome and Firefox, it's as easy as hitting Ctrl + T, typing what you want to look up, and hitting Enter. It's far less work than typing that entire question out.

It's actually not easier to google something like this. Given that my knowledge in this area is practically nonexistent, if I googled this I'm liable to get a copious amount of results that I wouldn't be able to understand. (It would be like if I told you google post-structuralism.) I didn't even know what FTP was until a few hours ago. What I need is someone with very specific knowledge to answer this question in an easy to understand and non-complicated way. So, if you're interested in answering the question I'm thankful for your help, otherwise you're simply being a nuisance.

Offline Lupin

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2011, 02:37:14 AM »
A few misconceptions:
Although your initial download to the server is secure
It's not. The seedbox downloads stuff the same way you do. It doesn't do anything special (like encrypting) when it's downloading. What happens here is that monitoring groups see the seedbox as the one downloading, not you.

your isp will still be able to see what you're downloading once you download the files from your seedbox to your computer.
while this is true, ISPs don't care what you download. What's important to them is that what you do isn't harmful to their network. They're not the original ones sending letter, only forwards what they receive from copyright groups. Copyright groups cannot see what you're downloading from the seedbox.

How do you encrypt your ftp connection so that your isp can't see what you're downloading? In the other thread SFTP was mentioned; what is this and how do you set it up? Thanks.
There are several ways to download securely from you seedbox:
SFTP
FTPS
FTP over SSH

When I was still using a seedbox, I can't download using any of the above because my university's proxies blocked all ports except 8080. What I did was setup an HTTP server on the seedbox, force every connection to it be encrypted, and ban every IP except mine from accessing anything from it.

It's actually not easier to google something like this. Given that my knowledge in this area is practically nonexistent, if I googled this I'm liable to get a copious amount of results that I wouldn't be able to understand. (It would be like if I told you google post-structuralism.) I didn't even know what FTP was until a few hours ago. What I need is someone with very specific knowledge to answer this question in an easy to understand and non-complicated way. So, if you're interested in answering the question I'm thankful for your help, otherwise you're simply being a nuisance.
Just ignore them.

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Re: Seedbox or VPN?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2011, 04:54:29 AM »
^ dude obviously haven't been in the internet for a long time.
pretty sure you didn't google stuff you don't know about before yourself, don't you?

I started doing it all the time when I kept getting told to. I still ask questions if I don't understand, but that comes after looking up some information.

It's actually not easier to google something like this. Given that my knowledge in this area is practically nonexistent, if I googled this I'm liable to get a copious amount of results that I wouldn't be able to understand. (It would be like if I told you google post-structuralism.) I didn't even know what FTP was until a few hours ago. What I need is someone with very specific knowledge to answer this question in an easy to understand and non-complicated way. So, if you're interested in answering the question I'm thankful for your help, otherwise you're simply being a nuisance.

At least make an attempt, that's all I'm saying. It's completely understandable if you look up the term and don't understand it because of lack of knowledge. Asking for an explanation without trying to look it up yourself first is another story.

SFTP = Secure FTP. It's just another protocol that utilizes SSH.
SSH = secure shell. Basically a way to connect to a system with 128-bit encryption.
Read about tunneling in addition to Lupin's links.

Look into Filezilla as well if you're interested in using SFTP.

Wikipedia makes for great reading when you want to learn about a subject (be ready to spend an hour or more).