So yeah, just because nearly all of the introduced characters were taking a big part in the major scene means they detract from the plot.
Your point is void.
Merely showing up doesn't suddenly make them all terribly integral to the plot. They aren't.
A lot of the characters are really only used for one major scene or two. The shows too short to support a gigantic cast. I'm arguing it'd have been tighter if there were less characters. Or more episodes. And another season doesn't really solve it since it's still compacting arcs into 13 episode sets.
@abc cuz
Yeah well it appears some people don't like boobs, looks like a world without boobs is their grand dream.
It's not a binary thing. It's not like you have no boobs, or volleyballs. I don't think the large breasted characters were particularly well drawn. It just looks absurd to me. It's an acquired taste, but I'm not sure it'd be easy to argue it's a particularly artistic decision to draw them that way either.
@zherok again.
this is a discussion thread for anime, so I won't stop you from discussing it, but if you have a problem with everything in the show then why bother watching it ?
I mean, when I don't like something that's pissing me off, i just drop.
It didn't piss me off, I've said several times it was merely meh. It'd have to try far harder to actually irritate me. The closest it comes is never really reaching it's potential, but all in all it was merely average.
At the very least you agreed that the story is good but seriously, you can't expect a show with girls that doesn't have a bit of echii about it, even in K-On, which was purely slice of life, there was echii, Azumanga Daioh, a great slice of life comedy also had echii, where are girls in anime, there will be some echii, and the level in this show is practically normal. If boobs are a bother to you, stop watching shows with girls in them.
There you go again with the binary argument. You don't have to have an absolute extreme of a particular element or have none of it altogether. And in a show with so much exposition, maybe spend less time on the boob humor and more time explaining the rather complicated world they've set up. I don't think that's ridiculous to expect. There are plenty of other ecchi shows that get away with the same level of ecchi content, but they're going with lighter stories to begin with and not dumping exposition in between.
Nowhere have I ever argued having ecchi content is some sort of death sentence. I argued that if it was going to have so much exposition, maybe spend more time on that instead of boob groping.
This is all I have to say in this topic, I would very much like to see some real discussion instead of throwing meat and critiques at points that are obvious and commonplace in EVERY anime. Large cast is not bad when it's done properly. And in this title it is done in an excellent way.
I don't know what you watch where it's either on or off. I think they wasted a lot of time with things that didn't matter, and pushed the plot into the background. Read the summery of the series off anidb and tell me how much of that is really integral to what actually happens in the first 13 episodes. Even with the things that do get resolved, the story setting is primarily just background detail.
I didn't see the series really use it's large cast particularly well. Again I don't know how they're used in the light novels, but the anime could have done without a number of characters. It's not just about using them, it's about whether the time spent introducing them, having them be important for a scene, and fitting that all into a single season is worth the bother. I don't think it was. I'm sure you disagree.
And still, please remember that only some of the characters have those huge breasts. Take for example Horizon, or the witches, etc etc. No need to mention it all the time.
It's a huge focus. Apparently for the light novels too. They've got a lot more volumes to spread the story over though. It's not really my main argument even. My issue is that they had a lot to say and they spent a lot of their limited time not saying it. Reading about the series from other people it definitely invites external research, which wouldn't have to be the case if they had spent more time on it in the first place.
The thing that I like the most in this anime is that they use real historical figure-based characters. Which is only laudable.
I don't think it was all that big a focus in Horizon, but I'm not sure I'd call any usage of historical characters "laudable." There are tons of manga and anime based on the Warring States period or the Three Kingdoms, but that doesn't make Ikkitousen not retarded.
And IMHO the giant boob art is just very fitting if we consider the fact that Toori was naked during the most time of the show. It adds some spices to the show.
You can see some of the Light Novel pictures
here. Something like
this is pretty much porn. Tori has pretty mild character design compared to a lot of the female cast.
Now again about large cast. I already said long ago I didn't like that there are so many characters in the show, cuz it was confusing. However, I can see that they are trying to make the others important too. And I have a feeling that in this second season many of them will play a great part. No need to make conclusions until the anime is over.
I think the classroom angle hurt it, personally. Some of the secondary cast outside the class probably deserved more face time than some of the classmates got. I really doubt a lot of those guys are ever going to be critical.
Anyways, I like this anime and enjoy it greatly. You are free to have your own opinion about it, but still, that doesn't make this anime any bad.
I'm not sure I ever called it bad, I believe I've said "meh" several times. It was worth finishing, which I can't say I've bothered to do with a number of other Ecchi focused shows. I'm not even against the idea, I liked the premise. But I think they could have done with a longer first season and spent more time spreading the exposition out rather than dense bursts combined with ecchi.
