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Offline Havoc10K

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Recommend me a game ...
« on: August 30, 2011, 02:10:36 PM »
... with the following stuff in it (PC only)

-Modern or Medieval (depending on other stuff)
-Customization of character (complete, like weapons with upgrades or armor and a lot of pieces, I miss Rage of Mages where you had technically a Full Set of armor, from shoulders, to boots, with cuirass and chain mail under it.)
-Sophisticated weapons and ability setup, of course full customization.
-RPG/RTS/FPS (Not Elder Scrolls/Spellforce)
-Rich Storyboard and multiple characters to ally with and to choose from.

I wonder if a game like that exists.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 02:40:32 PM »
You should check out Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga. I'm not sure if its exactly what you want but it's one of the most in-depth rpgs to come out in recent years.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 02:41:11 PM »
Played, got boring when I started one shooting mobs :P

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 02:50:54 PM »
How about either of The Witcher games? Although they both get easy as you progress too and limited customization. Also King's Bounty series is a good turn-based/tactical RPG.

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 02:58:12 PM »
Kings bounty was interesting at start, but after that it started to annoy the hell out of me when mobs were't really that much of a challenge even on higher levels and difficulty sets.

I made this thread to technically bomb every idea unless I didn't play it of course, I am trying to show you how limited the games really are. In the before 2000 year games you could do a lot of stuff and have a lot of fun without the fancy graphics and totally customized characters. You had what they gave you and the story made you too busy to worry about tinkering your characters.

Played Both Witchers only for getting started since it IS my country work (PL) so I would be an ignorant whelp without even trying it out. The games are nice of course, but that isn't what I am trying to find now.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 03:21:12 PM »
I see, so you want a game with the depth of older titles such the CRPGs of the mid to late 90s? Good luck with that. The closest games made in 2000s that I can think of would be Wizardry 8 or Baldurs Gate 2, which are both sequels to the older games. I'm well aware of how limited games are, and what I listed is pretty much as good as it gets for recent games as far as I know. It's sad but Black Isle/Interplay, Sir Tech, 3DO, and Origin Systems are all gone, Bethesda and Bioware both dumbed their games down, and most smaller developers don't produce games of that quality.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 03:40:01 PM »
Neverwinter Nights with expansion packs. Do add mods, play some of them even.
NWN 2 with expansion packs. Do add mods, play some of them even.

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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 03:49:31 PM »
Sadly that is true, If only Black Isle/Interplay didn't sell the IP to Bethesda for Fallout title, maybe Fallout 3 would be more true to it's original games and not such a silly game. Wizardy series was also pretty decent, already forgot about that, and Baldurs Gate, for it's limited engine was incredibly awesome.

Sadly the newer the game is the less it has to offer due to seriously abused importance if nice graphics, completely forgetting about how developed a game should be, a real game should offer an immerse universe (RPG-type), an array of weapons and armor only decent enough in older games, and a full set of playable/allied characters. Spiced up with a very interesting and intriguing story that takes you on a walk for around 60 hours without the sidequests, and challenging enemies not because of their armor being nearly impervious to attacks (Fallout 3 Deathclaws and that crab king), but because they are fairly smart and cunning or using your weaknesses against you. You don't find cunning enemies like that in games anymore, they just shoot or simply overpower you with fancy attacks.

I still remember how fun it was even in Starcraft when you could set up a map that could easily overpower 8 well prepared players with one super base of Zerg (made a few such maps back in the days when you simply applied 5 minutes wait with Siege tanks and whatever you had and you still lost, the point was to stay as long as possible and survive the initial 3 waves, no one survived past the second wave, even if they had cheap units with a lot of power, hell we even made a map version that allowed no cost to units, we still got owned within 5 minutes :P epic fails :D)

I even remember how great the first Diablo game was, soloing the Butcher was fun, running around and casting firebolt every 20 seconds when you had the advantage of distance enough, took ages to kill the bastard.

Daggerfal was an awesome game, if anyone played it or at least a demo, you could use any of the Elder Scrolls race, any equipment, you could use a lot of gear on yourself and the game allowed you even to walk star naked on the streets without any censor (well the lower body part was kind of censored still, but in overall, you could walk around topless as a female and shake those tits and guards :P no one would tell you shit)

Crusader-No Regret/Remorse as futuristic games brought a very immerse story and although the game was very linear it allowed you a lot of freedom of movement and many ways to kill your enemies.

Early Final Fantasy games as well as many other games used an (at the time) advanced graphics and yet still gave us plenty of hours to enjoy the great story they always provided.

This thread seem like a RANT but in reality I will play what you will throw at me to see if it's what I am looking for, or comment on what you guys will tell me to play if I did play the game already.

NVN games were very interesting, but even they had limitations, though I admit some of the MODs were making the game a real gem.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 04:11:54 PM »
and challenging enemies not because of their armor being nearly impervious to attacks (Fallout 3 Deathclaws and that crab king), but because they are fairly smart and cunning or using your weaknesses against you. You don't find cunning enemies like that in games anymore, they just shoot or simply overpower you with fancy attacks.
....there's a game that has cunning AI? I call BS

as for your request...
sacred 2?
Dungeon siege?

I don't play too many non-mmo PC games, those are all I've played that mostly fit


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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2011, 04:27:24 PM »
Sacred 2 annoyed the hell out of me, didn't even get past the first arc, it was so annoying as hell, Sacred 1 was much better, as for Dungeon Siege, 1/2 were pretty good, DS3 is crap.

Cunning AI means suprise attacks, ambushes, or using your attacks against you (in some FF games dragons or some monsters would use Reflect and cast at themselves if you cast magic at them or use Reflect at self, in some games enemies try to ambush you, even if it's planned by the programmers and is part of the linearity, it is still impressive, In Dawn of War 2 Warhammer 40k some Tyranids could actually ambush you by using stealth attacks or jumping you from high ground, if you do not expect that at first playthrough you can get half your team wiped out before you can kill them)

It doesn't have to be AI that is really cunning but the way they are programmed is usually impressive enough, the most disappointing was Warcraft 3/TFT where the AI was as dumb as it gets, kill workers or destroy the base and they are dumbfounded, you'd expect Blizzard to use similar AI for workers as in Starcraft but no, they just stood there doing nothing at all.

Dungeon Siege 2 was a great improvement over the first game, however it only improved some abilities, graphics and creature AI, leaving the game as easy as the first one was but at the very least your cast of characters was far better and you could easily do whatever you wanted to with them.

At the very least in DS2 you could use equipment that relied on melee/ranged/combat/nature skills instead of ridiculously high stats that were incredibly hard to achieve, and by the time you finally had the stat required you get a new piece that was even higher, leaving you in despair. though the story of the first game was far greater than the second one, and the third game is just shit.

Sacred 2 was as annoying as it gets with its weird stats and setup, until the very first patches the game was simply stupid. Then it became as easy as it could be.
Challenge since start of the game is good when you are equal or lower level than your enemies, but when you are pitted against nearly 20 mobs 5 levels ahead of you and their attacks are in most cases criticals is just stupid and puts people away from the game instead of enthralling them, I had to go back and kil la few dozens of mobs so I could take on them 20 5 lvl higher mobs. the characters weren't even interesting. And the game engine, for such a long time since the first game they had enough time to improve properly the engine they used.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2011, 05:51:05 PM »
DS3 is pretty fun as an action RPG. It isn't the best game, well worth playing though, even did some coop in it (though full team coop gets too easy, even on highest difficulty).

Have you tried out Drakensang: The Dark Eye? I personally didn't care for it, yet it kind of fits your requirements (I also had some fun customizing in it, though it isn't all that impressive in that department).

Other random RPGs from recent years include The Last Remnant, Risen and Silverfall.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2011, 06:23:26 PM »
Played all to some extent, DS 3 is crap as a sequel, but I guess modernization of the technology was imminent, however even with the stuff, closing the overall spellbook and giving each character their own abilities was not a good idea, the original Dungeon Sige was great because you could literally make a party of all mages and STILL own every enemy regardless of their combat abilities or whatever they threw at you.

In DS1 I was able to make 4 tanks and make it pretty much impossible for enemies to damage any of my characters below 90% health, although getting some gear for them was nearly impossible if I wanted them to have similar HP/MP (screw the MP, HP was the only worry but after a while I could screw anything in a manner of seconds, DPS was so decent my tanks were owning everything, bosses included)

I totally forgot about Drakensang, probably the only fully customizable game in recent PC experience, it has it's terrible quirks but overall it was very impressive, unlucky for my first playthrough I wasn't very good at making some of the improvements in stats, I wanted to do some cool stuff and ended up screwing everything, so had to restart the game from start and made it very impressively. If the game had better visuals and more equipment, and also more image changing equipment, it could have been an incredibly impressive game. I noticed there are some continuations so I will try the latest expansion to see what is where and what was improved. I guess as Modern Medieval, or should I say, late Medieval which started entering some more modern civilization genre with (still) a lot of magic aspects was pretty interesting idea. I'll give the newest additions to the series to test out.

BTW, a warning though, Space Siege is full of shit, avoid like plague, or Tomoya-kun.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2011, 06:30:35 PM »
Maybe try Ultima series. Next to Planescape: Torment and Fallout, the closest PC games to classic paper RPGs.

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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2011, 06:39:38 PM »
Might try Ultima on Snes, not going to try the Ultima Online. But I preffered teh games made for PC though.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2011, 06:43:15 PM »
I meant this series. Ultima on SNES is Ultima VI or VII and Ultima Online is a spin-off.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 06:46:33 PM by Garret02 »

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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2011, 06:46:02 PM »
Was exactly what I read a moment ago lol, You believe it will run on win7 ? might run on XP though, bu tnot really sure.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2011, 06:46:25 PM »
Use DOSBox :P

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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2011, 06:51:33 PM »
woot, had no idea, Daggerfall might actually run on this lol :D
*digs in*
Daggerfall alone is worth a try. Will try some older games as well when I can grab them.

Still throw me some more titles.

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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2011, 08:32:34 PM »
Temple of Elemental Evil and Arcanum, both are based on older pen and paper RPGs, and fairly faithful. Icewind Dale 1 and 2, the last games made by Black Isle, both good but don't quite live up to their other game.

And if you include older games, Planescape and Ultima as already mentioned are good. Might and Magic series(the original, not Heroes or Dark Messiah) is also good, MM6 is a must play if you haven't.

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Re: Recommend me a game ...
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2011, 08:41:35 PM »
... with the following stuff in it (PC only)

-Modern or Medieval (depending on other stuff)
-Customization of character (complete, like weapons with upgrades or armor and a lot of pieces, I miss Rage of Mages where you had technically a Full Set of armor, from shoulders, to boots, with cuirass and chain mail under it.)
-Sophisticated weapons and ability setup, of course full customization.
-RPG/RTS/FPS (Not Elder Scrolls/Spellforce)
-Rich Storyboard and multiple characters to ally with and to choose from.

I wonder if a game like that exists.

Chantelise is close. 


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