Morality and You

[metro.]

So a couple of days ago I was hanging out with some friends and we were talking about how "okay" it is to make sexual advances on friends. This was after more then a few drinks so of course the unanimous answer was oh fuck yeah, but now in a sober state of mind I am actually a little curious. Do you deem it "okay" to sleep with/ try to sleep with friends?

[AceHigh]

Of course it's ok. Sex is just as natural as breathing and eating. Enjoying sex with friends will be more enjoyable than with total strangers.

Morality is sense of right and wrong. How can it be wrong when it brings joy to people?

[NaRu]

One of my good friends her and I had sex for about a year until one of us started to date someone. It's fine if both parties is ok with it.

[metro.]

I'm of the same belief, I've had a similar experience as you Naru and it worked out just fine.

Of course it's ok. Sex is just as natural as breathing and eating. Enjoying sex with friends will be more enjoyable than with total strangers.

Morality is sense of right and wrong. How can it be wrong when it brings joy to people?

That opens up a whole new can of worms if you really want to discuss it. Joy to some can bring pain to others, so I find a flaw in your argument.

[AceHigh]

Isn't that something that can be said about every single action you may take in life? What makes sex more special than all other thinkable actions?

I am up for that discussion...

[tomoya-kun]

Well, all my friends are male, maybe I should discuss them with this?

[metro.]

Isn't that something that can be said about every single action you may take in life? What makes sex more special than all other thinkable actions?

I am up for that discussion...

I'm not saying bringing joy is bad, just that saying it cannot happen without any downside is unfeasible. What makes sex special is that it is a helluva lot more intimate just due to it's nature (opinion). That's what changes it to me, and the fact that while I might find it okay to fuck and not have any long term repercussions I've found that many people disagree with that point of view.

Well, all my friends are male, maybe I should discuss them with this?

Oh right, there's half a thread dedicated to getting you laid. If you need something to talk about, why not? Sex must come up in conversation, it's perfectly normal if you're a growing young male, which is what I hope if you haven't been laid and have no female friends.

Wait you actually have zero female friends?

[AceHigh]

That's what changes it to me, and the fact that while I might find it okay to fuck and not have any long term repercussions I've found that many people disagree with that point of view.

Well, then I guess you have to practice it with like minded people, right? What I find sad is that many people are indoctrinated to that belief from early age. Hard to convert them afterwards.

[TMRNetShark]

I can't find anyone to have sex with (friends or not). I have never had that sort of relationship with a friend where sex was casual... so I have no right to talk about this subject.


So I will take the opposite side of the argument! You are all going to hell having premarital sex! You will burn for your sins! OMG, I am laughing so hard while typing this... I can't even keep a straight face on... HAHAHAH

Sex is fucking natural, have it as much as you want. I just wish I could get some sex SOMETIME in the near future (it don't even have to be good sex... I'll take mediocre!).... >.>

[NaRu]

Say you are friends with someone of the opposite sex. At first no feelings for each other goes beyond friendship but if you start having sex feelings can develop. If only side starts to be in love then it can hurt the friendship.

I can't find anyone to have sex with (friends or not). I have never had that sort of relationship with a friend where sex was casual... so I have no right to talk about this subject.


So I will take the opposite side of the argument! You are all going to hell having premarital sex! You will burn for your sins! OMG, I am laughing so hard while typing this... I can't even keep a straight face on... HAHAHAH

Sex is fucking natural, have it as much as you want. I just wish I could get some sex SOMETIME in the near future (it don't even have to be good sex... I'll take mediocre!).... >.>

Once you have good sex, average sex seems more like a chore then anything else unless you don't get it on a weekly term.

[metro.]

Well, then I guess you have to practice it with like minded people, right? What I find sad is that many people are indoctrinated to that belief from early age. Hard to convert them afterwards.

I have a really hard time finding people like me, maybe off at school I'll find some more people. I'll let you know.
And yeah, breaking it is hard but not impossible, just takes some...doing.
Fuck that was a bad joke.

I can't find anyone to have sex with (friends or not). I have never had that sort of relationship with a friend where sex was casual... so I have no right to talk about this subject.


So I will take the opposite side of the argument! You are all going to hell having premarital sex! You will burn for your sins! OMG, I am laughing so hard while typing this... I can't even keep a straight face on... HAHAHAH

Sex is fucking natural, have it as much as you want. I just wish I could get some sex SOMETIME in the near future (it don't even have to be good sex... I'll take mediocre!).... >.>

Don't take mediocre, if it's bad the first time it's like watching a show that is hyped and ends up being shit.
Haha someone told me that was serious. They didn't realize I embraced it already. It was great fun.

At risk of sounding creepy, how old are you?

Say you are friends with someone of the opposite sex. At first no feelings for each other goes beyond friendship but if you start having sex feelings can develop. If only side starts to be in love then it can hurt the friendship.

Once you have good sex, average sex seems more like a chore then anything else unless you don't get it on a weekly term.

First part, amen. The one side thing though really messes with things which is annoying. Sex is sex, not love.

That's a great line. Although I really suppose good sex changes so it's hard to pin down a definition of good and average.

[AceHigh]

Sex is fucking natural, have it as much as you want. I just wish I could get some sex SOMETIME in the near future (it don't even have to be good sex... I'll take mediocre!).... >.>

First time with someone is mediocre at best unless you are lucky. You don't know her rhythm, she doesn't know yours. You don't know what stimulates her and vice versa.... and you get the idea. That is the cool thing about having sex with the same person over a period of time, after a while you know exactly what your partner likes. However I am not saying that you can't have just a casual sex partner that you practice sex with on a frequent basis.

Just look at Naru, after his tragic relationships it almost seems that the fuckfriend he is describing is the best thing that ever happened to him.

[NaRu]

First part, amen. The one side thing though really messes with things which is annoying. Sex is sex, not love.

That's a great line. Although I really suppose good sex changes so it's hard to pin down a definition of good and average.

Once you have "good" sex you know what I mean. Sex with my friend was the best sex I had in my life. When you are in a relationship sex is important but it doesn't have to the best to keep them close to you. When you are just friends you will only have sex with them if it's good or you have lack of sex in your life.

[metro.]

To be honest first time I had sex it was like OMG then, but now I'd consider it average. That's what I mean about changing definitions. Fuckfriends are great, especially considering I'm not really the type of person for a romantic relationship, I just end up exploiting the person cause it's just too easy. Which is worrying in the long run so for now I just steer clear.

And yeah, sex with friends is good cause then it's not like a one night stand where if you ever make it to second night sex it's just about the sex, and that makes the sex worse in my opinion. Have some rapport with the person makes it more enjoyable, even if that comfortableness isn't in the realm of sexuality.

So drawing back, I'm not the only one that think this is okay. I guess being just out of high school my experience with relationships that aren't from school only and fueled by hormones alone puts in the position of everyone thinking sex is only okay after a few months of dating. I find it annoying.

[tomoya-kun]

Wait you actually have zero female friends?

To make a short story even shorter, yes.

[NaRu]

When you find the one you were suppose to be with then sex wouldn't as matter as much. Dating is fun but most of the time it doesn't work out when you are young. Once you get older then you will find more mature people out there that wants to settle down.

Wait you actually have zero female friends?

To make a short story even shorter, yes.

O_o

[AceHigh]

Once you have "good" sex you know what I mean. Sex with my friend was the best sex I had in my life. When you are in a relationship sex is important but it doesn't have to the best to keep them close to you. When you are just friends you will only have sex with them if it's good or you have lack of sex in your life.

That is why it is recommended that your lover is also your friend 

[tomoya-kun]

When you find the one you were suppose to be with then sex wouldn't as matter as much. Dating is fun but most of the time it doesn't work out when you are young. Once you get older then you will find more mature people out there that wants to settle down.

Well, I guess.  I've tried dating once, but it didn't really work out well.  But I've always wanted a girlfriend, anime just makes me sad when I watch it because I usually get quite lonely.  And the forums helps to relieve that perhaps?

[NaRu]

When you find the one you were suppose to be with then sex wouldn't as matter as much. Dating is fun but most of the time it doesn't work out when you are young. Once you get older then you will find more mature people out there that wants to settle down.

Well, I guess.  I've tried dating once, but it didn't really work out well.  But I've always wanted a girlfriend, anime just makes me sad when I watch it because I usually get quite lonely.  And the forums helps to relieve that perhaps?

You need to just get out more and meet some people. If you stay home all day and never go out to chill then you will have a hard time finding someone.

[tomoya-kun]

When you find the one you were suppose to be with then sex wouldn't as matter as much. Dating is fun but most of the time it doesn't work out when you are young. Once you get older then you will find more mature people out there that wants to settle down.

Well, I guess.  I've tried dating once, but it didn't really work out well.  But I've always wanted a girlfriend, anime just makes me sad when I watch it because I usually get quite lonely.  And the forums helps to relieve that perhaps?

You need to just get out more and meet some people. If you stay home all day and never go out to chill then you will have a hard time finding someone.

I don't stay home all day, I hang out with my (relatively few) friends.  But I never meet new people, where am I supposed to meet new people?