Graphics Designing or Web Designing?

[saionjee]

1st official topic.
Pardon the ignorance   


What would you recommend to someone who cannot draw well? I am in my last year of high school and I need to choose between graphics designing, web designing or animations? I don't have the talent for drawing or painting so maybe slash out the animations. So, what do you recommend?

By the way, which course would make me richer from the said courses? LOL.

Zankyuu~


PS. if something is wrong, please point it out and don't hesitate to tell me <insert laughing meme face here> 

[kurandoinu]

Graphic or web design design. Unless your Graphic Design course has an illustration section you won't have to draw much. Half of my class couldn't draw for toffee

If you want a chat PM me

[Kyrdua]

By the way, which course would make me richer from the said courses? LOL.

i know it's a joke. but let's just say you're serious.
so... none of em. trust me, even pancakes can make you rich.

as for which course to choose, I'd say Web Designing.

in our bachelor of arts in graphics and media, we tackle all three. i sucked at drawings at first,
but i steadily improved, so i think if you're really dedicated you can choose any of those. it's
all in creativity really.

[JoonasTo]

I could insert a lot of sarcastic and even more cynical comments and examples about the subject but I'll just make do with laughing at you conceitedly:
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[saionjee]

I could insert a lot of sarcastic and even more cynical comments and examples about the subject but I'll just make do with laughing at you conceitedly:
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK EKEKEKEKEKE!

Seriously.. for now let me laugh with you 

@JoonasTo - Bruuuuu. Is this suppose to be a verbal assault? Seriously, if this is once again a joke, let me laugh with you in an evil mode :>

@Kyrdua - Thanks. I am once again inspired and enlightened.

[JoonasTo]

I have personal experience with graphic designers, most of them work in a supermarket. 

[saionjee]

I have personal experience with graphic designers, most of them work in a supermarket. 

K. Did they do good?
Wait. Are you a graphics designer?

[kitamesume]

take graphics designing, web designing can be done even without the course itself, all you need is a book.

Edit: yes i am serious, if you're managing your own blog then thats the simplest web designing you've done.

[JoonasTo]

I think they're just as good in supermarket as anyone else.  
As in school, yeah, they were good. Really good even. But Finland is oversaturated with graphic designers so there's zero work here.

No, I'm not. Thank god for that!

Andu has more info on UK side, so far, not so good.

[Natheria]

And this is why i am happy with my choice of a hard(er) science.  

Web design can really be done by most anyone who knows a smidgen of HTML and has Dreamweaver. The most important things your going to be doing actually are learning how to use key words and boost your goggling status for clients (and if the degree doesn't have a class for that they sorely need it). As for animation and Graphic design, that's out of my own field so i have little knowledge on those degree paths. Generally I've seen people couple Web and Graphic together to be successful.

     JoonasTo brings up a very good point in that you should look around and ask people whether a certain degree actually has jobs out there. There is more to picking a degree than just "this might interest me" or "I think i could do this". Generally hard sciences do the best because there is always a demand for them (i believe last time i looked they had like a 95% chance of getting into your respective field).

The labor market works just like any other market in the sense that different jobs requiring certain skills are in varying supply. Jobs in the arts and social sciences are generally in lower supply (there are a ton of people with English and Philosophy degrees working at McDonalds). Of course it depends on where your trying to get a job etc. Many people with those kinds of degrees ether have to be the top of their field or combine it with some other skill/talent. Remember that when you choose a lower demand degree you have to go farther in that field or again take up something else along with it to make the cut (A.K.A getting a masters or doctorate instead of just going for 2-4 years or having multiple degrees that work well together). Also remember that certain degrees and job types (such as anything related to computer science) require you to stay up to date in your field as well and that staying stagnant will only make you obsolete (My mom used to be a software engineer for 20 some odd years and now she can't get squat for a job cause she stayed stagnant in her training).

I'm curious as to what drew you to Animation/Graphic Design/Web Design in the first place. Lure of money/interest/other?

[Kyrdua]

take graphics designing, web designing can be done even without the course itself, all you need is a book.

Edit: yes i am serious, if you're managing your own blog then thats the simplest web designing you've done.

are you kidding me? you can make and manage a blog with just wordpress! you /don't/ even need to do any
actual designing much less coding. in web designing you have to take a lot of stuff into consideration.

that's like saying you can work on magazine covers just because you know photoshop...

[NaRu]

I think about graphic design or web design is that its getting easier for anyone to figure out how to do it. It will be harder to land a job right after college. I wouldn't recommend getting a degree in web designing or graphic arts.

[tomoya-kun]

1st official topic.
Pardon the ignorance   


What would you recommend to someone who cannot draw well? I am in my last year of high school and I need to choose between graphics designing, web designing or animations? I don't have the talent for drawing or painting so maybe slash out the animations. So, what do you recommend?

By the way, which course would make me richer from the said courses? LOL.

Zankyuu~


PS. if something is wrong, please point it out and don't hesitate to tell me <insert laughing meme face here> 

Web design is pretty easy but won't make money.

[Tatsujin]

I think about graphic design or web design is that its getting easier for anyone to figure out how to do it. It will be harder to land a job right after college. I wouldn't recommend getting a degree in web designing or graphic arts.

^ That. Graphic arts should be fine. It has more varieties than what you think.

As for drawing, if you have passion for it - essentially that's the first requirement, then you should start drawing. I have no knowledge on how to properly do the steps but you can google and YouTube which I'd recommend. There is also computer drawing in PhotoShop which is very impressive.

[Kyrdua]

I think you guys are underestimating web designing:

http://www.all-computer-schools.com/computer-careers/web-design/web-designer-salary

sure, that may be exaggerated. But i can certainly say having skills on web design can give you good money
while you study. Someone in my Web design class (all we do is design though, no php no nothing ) earns
herself $15 per page or something like that. forgot the details on how complex the coding she does is. but
to me that's decent money.

[Mistgun_Zero]

I wouldn't recommend anything but would like to say these were my options of career before I took engineering.

Well about the drawing part, it's not as difficult as it might look. I used to be very good at drawing (best in my class mind you) but I was never encouraged along this field, eventually I ignored drawing and now I really suck it. It's all in the practice. It will take some time, but you will eventually get it right.

In any case, these fields are no play and are gonna require your full dedication, keep that in mind.

[kitamesume]

I think you guys are underestimating web designing:

http://www.all-computer-schools.com/computer-careers/web-design/web-designer-salary

sure, that may be exaggerated. But i can certainly say having skills on web design can give you good money
while you study. Someone in my Web design class (all we do is design though, no php no nothing ) earns
herself $15 per page or something like that. forgot the details on how complex the coding she does is. but
to me that's decent money.

like i said, all you need is a book to learn web designing, the rest is up to the program used and your artistic skills.

PS: web blogs has have built-in pre-made design that you could use and could alter, altering it would result in "redesigning".

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Graphics Designing has one of the most broadest fields, you could apply for automotive designing, gaming graphics designing, furniture designing, poster adds designing and etc.

Applications

From road signs to technical schematics, from interoffice memorandums to reference manuals, graphic design enhances transfer of knowledge. Readability is enhanced by improving the visual presentation of text.

Design can also aid in selling a product or idea through effective visual communication. It is applied to products and elements of company identity like logos, colors, packaging, and text. Together these are defined as branding (see also advertising). Branding has increasingly become important in the range of services offered by many graphic designers, alongside corporate identity. Whilst the terms are often used interchangeably, branding is more strictly related to the identifying mark or trade name for a product or service, whereas corporate identity can have a broader meaning relating to the structure and ethos of a company, as well as to the company's external image. Graphic designers will often form part of a team working on corporate identity and branding projects. Other members of that team can include marketing professionals, communications consultants and commercial writers.

Textbooks are designed to present subjects such as geography, science, and math. These publications have layouts which illustrate theories and diagrams. A common example of graphics in use to educate is diagrams of human anatomy. Graphic design is also applied to layout and formatting of educational material to make the information more accessible and more readily understandable.

Graphic design is applied in the entertainment industry in decoration, scenery, and visual story telling. Other examples of design for entertainment purposes include novels, comic books, DVD covers, opening credits and closing credits in filmmaking, and programs and props on stage. This could also include artwork used for t-shirts and other items screenprinted for sale.

From scientific journals to news reporting, the presentation of opinion and facts is often improved with graphics and thoughtful compositions of visual information - known as information design. Newspapers, magazines, blogs, television and film documentaries may use graphic design to inform and entertain. With the advent of the web, information designers with experience in interactive tools such as Adobe Flash are increasingly being used to illustrate the background to news stories.

Skills

A graphic design project may involve the stylization and presentation of existing text and either preexisting imagery or images developed by the graphic designer. For example, a newspaper story begins with the journalists and photojournalists and then becomes the graphic designer's job to organize the page into a reasonable layout and determine if any other graphic elements should be required. In a magazine article or advertisement, often the graphic designer or art director will commission photographers or illustrators to create original pieces just to be incorporated into the design layout. Or the designer may utilize stock imagery or photography. Contemporary design practice has been extended to the modern computer, for example in the use of WYSIWYG user interfaces, often referred to as interactive design, or multimedia design.


[edit] Visual arts
Main article: Visual arts

Before any graphic elements may be applied to a design, the graphic elements must be originated by means of visual art skills. These graphics are often (but not always) developed by a graphic designer. Visual arts include works which are primarily visual in nature using anything from traditional media, to photography or computer generated art. Graphic design principles may be applied to each graphic art element individually as well as to the final composition.


[edit] Typography
Main article: Typography

Typography is the art, craft and techniques of type design, modifying type glyphs, and arranging type. Type glyphs (characters) are created and modified using a variety of illustration techniques. The arrangement of type is the selection of typefaces, point size, line length, leading (line spacing) and letter spacing.

Typography is performed by typesetters, compositors, typographers, graphic artists, art directors, and clerical workers. Until the Digital Age, typography was a specialized occupation. Digitization opened up typography to new generations of visual designers and lay users.


[edit] Page layout
Main article: Page layout

The page layout aspect of graphic design deals with the arrangement of elements (content) on a page, such as image placement, and text layout and style. Beginning from early illuminated pages in hand-copied books of the Middle Ages and proceeding down to intricate modern magazine and catalogue layouts, structured page design has long been a consideration in printed material. With print media, elements usually consist of type (text), images (pictures), and occasionally place-holder graphics for elements that are not printed with ink such as die/laser cutting, foil stamping or blind embossing.


[edit] Interface design
Main article: User interface design

Since the advent of the World Wide Web and computer software development, many graphic designers have become involved in interface design. This has included web design and software design, when end user interactivity is a design consideration of the layout or interface. Combining visual communication skills with the interactive communication skills of user interaction and online branding, graphic designers often work with software developers and web developers to create both the look and feel of a web site or software application and enhance the interactive experience of the user or web site visitor. An important aspect of interface design is icon design.


[edit] User experience design
Main article: User experience design

Considers how a user interacts with and responds to an interface, service or product and adjusts it accordingly.


[edit] Printmaking
Main article: Printmaking

Printmaking is the process of making artworks by printing on paper and other materials or surfaces. Except in the case of monotyping, the process is capable of producing multiples of the same piece, which is called a print. Each piece is not a copy but an original since it is not a reproduction of another work of art and is technically known as an impression. Painting or drawing, on the other hand, create a unique original piece of artwork. Prints are created from a single original surface, known technically as a matrix. Common types of matrices include: plates of metal, usually copper or zinc for engraving or etching; stone, used for lithography; blocks of wood for woodcuts, linoleum for linocuts and fabric plates for screen-printing. But there are many other kinds, discussed below. Works printed from a single plate create an edition, in modern times usually each signed and numbered to form a limited edition. Prints may also be published in book form, as artist's books. A single print could be the product of one or multiple techniques.

[saionjee]

thanks for all the people who shared their insights and views.
I was thinking about being a graphics designer and proceed to web designing. Isn't it something? <please insert hilarious smiley> 

[Natheria]

If you marry the two you will definitely have more options when it comes to finding a job. Remember that in these fields not only does your particular style weigh heavily on whether you get contracts but your skill range needs to be wide enough to handle everything related to what your doing. If your going to be a graphic designer you need at bare minimum a cursory knowledge of web development and to really succeed, be a master at both. These fields are competitive so you have to be the best of the best.

[Tatsujin]

If you marry the two you will definitely have more options when it comes to finding a job. Remember that in these fields not only does your particular style weigh heavily on whether you get contracts but your skill range needs to be wide enough to handle everything related to what your doing. If your going to be a graphic designer you need at bare minimum a cursory knowledge of web development and to really succeed, be a master at both. These fields are competitive so you have to be the best of the best.

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