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Illegal? Or just fun?
hanayome:
If Oppai ever went on a car racing, I can't imagine what would happen...:P
metro.:
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on September 13, 2011, 06:44:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: JoonasTo on September 13, 2011, 05:35:24 PM ---
--- Quote ---Formula 1 cars are built to have the ultimate downforce.
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No they're not. They're built to have just enough downforce for the current track to get through it the fastest.
--- Quote ---Remember Juan Pablo Montoya who raced for Williams/McLaren from 2001 to 2006? He was a good racer, won 7 races.
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How about Räikkönen who went to race NASCAR with just one test drive before and finished above average? Against guys who have been doing the sport for their wholes lives I think that calls for something. So either NASCAR isn't really that hard or over half of the guys are total losers.
--- Quote ---Current Formula 1 cars have 740-800 hp with enough downforce in the world while Nascars still maintain 900 hp in cars with far less aerodynamic properties
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Formula 1 cars are limited in power, downforce and pretty much everything by rules to their current level.
Not to mention NASCARs drive ovals compared to something like Monte Carlo or Suzuka. Take away their tilted speedways and they're toast. ;)
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I would go ahead and have you look up some of those facts you claim. If even the slightest wing or fin on a F1 car is damaged, the car cannot keep up with the other driver's undamaged cars. They spend months in wind tunnels figuring out the best aero packages to be the fastest. The engines can be tuned wirelessly without ever needing to go to the pits. Lastly, the element of winning doesn't rely on the skills of the driver... But with the equipment that you have that gives you the edge.
In Nascar, to win requires strategy, the skill of the driver to pass other cars (it's harder than it looks), and know how of changing the car's attributes during pit stops (adding tire pressure is an example). The entire field of Nascar is only split by maybe 5 mph because all the equipment is reletively the same. It's cool if you think Nascar is easier than F1. No skin off my nose, seeing as how an F1 car costs upwards of 6 million dollars when a stock car only costs around 250,000 dollars. I've been to both 61 and Nascar races... In F1, you just see the cars go by whatever section your at. In Nascar, if you sit anywhere above the 10th row at ANY speedway, you will see the entire race then entire time.
So not only is Nascar more fun to watch, it's cheaper and the competition is closer. In F1, it's not uncommon at all to see the first place car have a 30 to 60 second lead over second place. That's boring.
So, hater... Hate all you want... F1 is a boring type of racing.
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What we have here is a difference of opinions. Just saying, don't bother.
JoonasTo:
Of course you can't keep up if you lose a wing, D'uh! It's the same for NASCAR but that doesn't mean they try to generate maximum downforce. Too much will slow you down on straights and too little on the corners. You'll want to balance it right to depending on the course.
As for the driver skills against car abilities, why don't we see one team taking double wins all the time then? ::)
If you want to watch people drive circle all the time be my quest but I do not find derby's that entertaining. At least in the case of horses there's some sport involved.
fohfoh:
Where did I criticize the skills required in NASCAR?
--- Quote ---Makes me wonder how fast a brain is going that wouldn't be able to enjoy F1 racing vs Nascar.
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I meant that in the sense that some people claim they can't figure out F1 racing because it's "too complicated", or "NASCAR is the worlds greatest automotive sport" which is questionable because it's a totally subjective belief. I'm speaking for the spectators and not the drivers themselves.
Obviously you can enjoy both NASCAR and F1.
And because it was NASCAR, the token redneck complement was required. Don't worry, it stands just the same with the token Texan with Big things.
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: fohfoh on September 13, 2011, 11:35:38 PM ---Where did I criticize the skills required in NASCAR?
--- Quote ---Makes me wonder how fast a brain is going that wouldn't be able to enjoy F1 racing vs Nascar.
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I meant that in the sense that some people claim they can't figure out F1 racing because it's "too complicated", or "NASCAR is the worlds greatest automotive sport" which is questionable because it's a totally subjective belief. I'm speaking for the spectators and not the drivers themselves.
Obviously you can enjoy both NASCAR and F1.
And because it was NASCAR, the token redneck complement was required. Don't worry, it stands just the same with the token Texan with Big things.
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I never claimed Nascar to be the best racing venue... Are you kidding me?
Rally racing is the best!
I was just trying to make a point that IMO that Nascar is more fun to watch than F1... live and televised.
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