Looking to buy a Tablet?

[Freedom Kira]

... and what's is good about Linux?

I would say that the mere fact that you cannot get a virus in Linux is enough to make it good.

[kitamesume]

Alot of the reviews are all saying the iPAD 2 is the best one. And the sumsung tab 10.1 comes close.

It's also $500-$600. The price of a lower high-end computer... with 6-cores, the latest graphics card, and 6 GBs of memory.

Go with something cheaper and actually supports flash (why Apple and Steve Jobs ever thought Flash was trash is on fucking dope).

You can't get a computer with that setup for 500-600, I have that and it was 3000 +

I would beg to differ:
CPU
6 GBs of Memory
PSU
ATI 6850 Videocard
Motherboard
1 TB harddrive
Computer Case
DVD Drive

Grand total? $580 with shipping included.

So either you paid too much, or your system is not "lower" high-end like I mentioned. Don't buy a tablet, buy a PC.

he meant an i7-970 and a pair of gtx 590... you cant even get a gtx 590 for 600$...

[AceHigh]

It's also $500-$600. The price of a lower high-end computer... with 6-cores, the latest graphics card, and 6 GBs of memory.

Go with something cheaper and actually supports flash (why Apple and Steve Jobs ever thought Flash was trash is on fucking dope).

Flash benefits the consumer more then Apple. Free videos etc is not something they're into.

Exactly, tablets are not good for anything else than media playback device and web browser. The web experience will be severely crippled on iPad because of the lack of Flash support.

[rostheferret]

... and what's is good about Linux?

I would say that the mere fact that you cannot get a virus in Linux is enough to make it good.

I accidentally tested this theory with Windows 7 recently. I ran it without a firewall (except the router's firewall), no AV software, no anti-spyware, anti-adware, anti-malware, email scanner, yada yada yada you get the point. I ran it with no protection other than my own intellect. Even the Windows firewall and whatever else comes with it was disabled. It's been like this for over 18 months now, and so I figured i'd probably have a couple of new virus' around. Installed the newest (free) version of AVG and ran a full system scan. Nothing. AVG must be defective, uninstall, try the latest (free) version of Avast! Same result.

18 months, zero protection, not so much as a single bit of spyware. So what can we conclude? Whilst it's true nobody makes virus' for Linux, the only time this becomes a factor is when you're a moron who clicks every link that pops up.

[TMRNetShark]

It's also $500-$600. The price of a lower high-end computer... with 6-cores, the latest graphics card, and 6 GBs of memory.

You can't get a computer with that setup for 500-600, I have that and it was 3000 +

So either you paid too much, or your system is not "lower" high-end like I mentioned. Don't buy a tablet, buy a PC.

he meant an i7-970 and a pair of gtx 590... you cant even get a gtx 590 for 600$...

And I meant lower high end... which does not equal i7-970 and a pair of overpriced videocards. Too bad for him that his performence is only about 20% more but at a significantly steeper price point. Hell, even the GTX 590 are at the same level as the ATI 6990/6950 at nearly a quarter of the price. So yeah, he over paid...

Just like how everyone overpays for a damn iPad 2 for whatever reason. Hell, I honestly don't get it. Is this the same phenomen that little kids/teenager/adults alike that flock to Call of Duty? hahah

[Saras]

If you are used to an iPhone, get an iPad. It'll most likely feel better.

Generally, what concerns tablets, my suggestion is the same as with the people looking for a netbook. Go to a shop that has a lot of them setup for a test run and just pick the one that feels the best to use, the one with the nicest looking screen, the one that's the right size for your hands... ect.

These are not the type of devices that are intended to run battlefield 3 or CADs. The specs other than battery life, wifi/3g support and possibly built in gps don't really matter.

[kitamesume]

@TMRNetShark

i do not get how a GTX580 score higher than a GTX590 and a HD6970 performing worse off than the HD6950 on THIS link you gave. please enlighten me.

edit: upon looking up the CPU tables i`ve seen much as THIS that saying CPU-i7-970 had a score of 9,927 with a price of $559.99 while the CPU Phenom II X6 1055T had a score of 5,191 with a price of $149.99, that is an effective 92% of performance difference but 374% difference in price. price per performance does make it silly, but that boost of performance in the higher arena does get heavy to attain.

@topic
well for school purposes the best aim is for battery life respectably, you cant use something that`ll only last you 4hrs on an 8hrs chain of lessons. the power of it's processor is of no use if you`ll only use it for wordpress or powerpoint, even a pentium 3 can handle those.

pretty much battery life and versatility(supports a USB drive, has a touchscreen, etc.) is the only stuff you`ll have to aim for, anything else is a bonus.

[TMRNetShark]

@TMRNetShark

i do not get how a GTX580 score higher than a GTX590 and a HD6970 performing worse off than the HD6950 on THIS link you gave. please enlighten me.

edit: upon looking up the CPU tables i`ve seen much as THIS that saying CPU-i7-970 had a score of 9,927 with a price of $559.99 while the CPU Phenom II X6 1055T had a score of 5,191 with a price of $149.99, that is an effective 92% of performance difference but 374% difference in price. price per performance does make it silly, but that boost of performance in the higher arena does get heavy to attain.

@topic
well for school purposes the best aim is for battery life respectably, you cant use something that`ll only last you 4hrs on an 8hrs chain of lessons. the power of it's processor is of no use if you`ll only use it for wordpress or powerpoint, even a pentium 3 can handle those.

pretty much battery life and versatility(supports a USB drive, has a touchscreen, etc.) is the only stuff you`ll have to aim for, anything else is a bonus.

I don't know why or how those results came about, but that's the fact of the matter. Maybe Nvidia is inflating the prices of their videocards just like Intel does. On the other hand, Intel has far superior CPUs than AMD for sure. That's why Intel can put their CPUs at such a high price point. The 20% number I am guestimating is from video games frame rate. An overpowered CPU will turn out massive numbers of calculations per cycle, but will overall give a 20% increase in FPS in a videogame, basically leaving the rest of that potential untapped. Do I think it's a waste of money? For that price/performance... Yes.

On topic: another important detail is the type of screen that is on a tablet. Is it glass or plastic? Plastic will usually scratch over time and it's really annoying if the screen doesn't recognize your finger when using it if it's overly scratched. Bad thing about glass is that is can shatter easier than plastuc screens.

[Freedom Kira]

18 months, zero protection, not so much as a single bit of spyware. So what can we conclude? Whilst it's true nobody makes virus' for Linux, the only time this becomes a factor is when you're a moron who clicks every link that pops up.

Or porn.

Does MSE also give zero results?

[fohfoh]

18 months, zero protection, not so much as a single bit of spyware. So what can we conclude? Whilst it's true nobody makes virus' for Linux, the only time this becomes a factor is when you're a moron who clicks every link that pops up.

Or porn.

Does MSE also give zero results?

MSE, AVG and AVAST! generally give similar results

Avira has slightly different.

Go Nod32 if you really want to find something.

[kitamesume]

^ Nod32 killed my XP once, it went ape-sh!t and got a couple of wrong finds.

[mrdkreka]

Nod32 is so awesome that it finds virus in files that the computer doesn't even have, that is how awesome Nod32 is

OP:
You don't seem to know why you want a tablet, so why not buy a cheap one to start with like nook color, or maybe you should get an e-reader instead.

[Osmo]

Lets just say that I never brought a laptop. I saw no point for myself, it lacked the mobility that I wanted. And that even before apple or the whole market came up with ideas of reinventing the tablet. It was already envisioned by me. Its perfect. It's not just some new technology hype that I'm jumping on, I don't do that.

It's either the iPad 2, samsung tab 10.1 or the the HP touchpad.

And yes tablets are overpriced. The companies trying to pull out as much profit as possible.

[revo]

only noobs use AV software
you should know what are you downloading

Im running win 7 no AV/Firewall or any other shit that keeps bothering me
Your brain is best antivirus protection
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anyway I was thinking
I can't find good use for tablet what would you do with it ?

[gabranth99]

only noobs use AV software
you should know what are you downloading

Im running win 7 no AV/Firewall or any other shit that keeps bothering me
Your brain is best antivirus protection
-----

anyway I was thinking
I can't find good use for tablet what would you do with it ?

do you use a router??

[TMRNetShark]

Lets just say that I never brought a laptop. I saw no point for myself, it lacked the mobility that I wanted. And that even before apple or the whole market came up with ideas of reinventing the tablet. It was already envisioned by me. Its perfect. It's not just some new technology hype that I'm jumping on, I don't do that.

It's either the iPad 2, samsung tab 10.1 or the the HP touchpad.

And yes tablets are overpriced. The companies trying to pull out as much profit as possible.

Ok, so you think that tablets are overpriced... then why spend $600 on something where you can save up an extra $400 and get yourself a Macbook air? Those are not only better than any tablet you can get, but you will be able to do a lot more with it.

[mrdkreka]

Lets just say that I never brought a laptop. I saw no point for myself, it lacked the mobility that I wanted. And that even before apple or the whole market came up with ideas of reinventing the tablet. It was already envisioned by me. Its perfect. It's not just some new technology hype that I'm jumping on, I don't do that.

It's either the iPad 2, samsung tab 10.1 or the the HP touchpad.

And yes tablets are overpriced. The companies trying to pull out as much profit as possible.

So you don't need a tablet, you just want one even thought an e-reader is better to read on, got more mobility, the battery last for weeks, and is a lot cheaper. The main reasons I would considering getting a tablet over an e-book is
- the e-books I can buy is very limited since I don't live in America.
- my android phone is pretty old (can't handle most app), so getting a tablet that got more power would be nice to have.

[Osmo]

I need to do more than a eReader can do. My iphone can do that. My iphone can do everything I want it to do, but it's size is not practical to do work on.
But I need something bigger to read on. Perfect with its touch when it comes to reader. I can hold it like a book when going to bed at night. I can slide it into my bags easily and it takes less space.
I don't need a macbook air. I don't need something that does alot. The tablet does everything I need it too.

[fohfoh]

It was already envisioned by me. Its perfect. It's not just some new technology hype that I'm jumping on, I don't do that.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Seriously, it's too easy to just say, "Bullshit".

Something I can take in with me into lecture and carry with me on the go.

ANY will work fine. You just want a note taking software and a browser. What the hell else do you need? You don't need games, or a phone, or 3G or anything else. Just to echo what was stated earlier, you don't need a tablet. You want a tablet.

However, just to give another kick to the horse.

Cost:
Acer Icona
Asus A or W series. (A = Android, W = windows)

Eye Candy:
iPad 2 - OG. People treat it as a standard, but it's its own category because it sorta did it first.
Sony S - Sony tickles the eye in general. Invented/Innovated a shitload of stuff. Not the strongest for marketing though.
Blackberry playbook - Totally different OS than the rest of the pack. Pretty much the ONLY tablet designed purely for productivity and not gaming.
Samsung Galaxy - Samsung tickle the eye but in a different way than Sony or Apple

Beyond this, I seriously can't understand why you'd keep asking questions. If you need affirmation for your purchase, find someone in real life to do so. You know your own budget and preferences, so need to keep asking us.

[revo]

only noobs use AV software
you should know what are you downloading

Im running win 7 no AV/Firewall or any other shit that keeps bothering me
Your brain is best antivirus protection
-----

anyway I was thinking
I can't find good use for tablet what would you do with it ?

do you use a router??

yes
my router firewall disabled and my isp protection disabled
(i need that for hosting game servers)