Author Topic: Nisemonogatari  (Read 26601 times)

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #200 on: March 14, 2012, 07:49:38 PM »
Of course I do, i wouldn't be watching anime if I didn't enjoy most of it. And this series is among my personal favorites :)

It's rare for me to like pretty much all the characters of a show, usually it's one or two, but here we have nearly entire cast that I like a lot. You don't get that very often, and the level of comedy and seriousness is just right in every episode.

Offline Ozzaharwood

  • Member
  • Posts: 1492
  • Eater of children's souls
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #201 on: March 15, 2012, 05:11:05 AM »
It was already official before, but now the official—ing has become official. Shinobu is my favourite loli in all anime to date, and is tied with Furude Rika for first place.

Offline Nodame-chan

  • Member
  • Posts: 3866
  • コ・イ・シ・テ・ル
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #202 on: March 15, 2012, 10:46:53 AM »
It's just getting better. I think Nisemono is one of the best animes I've ever seen. Shinobu is the best :D
今夜月は綺麗ですね?

Offline TwEeD

  • Member
  • Posts: 843
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #203 on: March 15, 2012, 07:27:03 PM »
This is one of those anime's that gets better the more you rewatch it

One of the things I'm hung up right now is if you know the events of Kizumonogatari (aka what happened to Arraragi and Shinobu) the impact it has what Oshino has done to Shinobu ... aka infusing her with all the knowledge he has of oddities so she can become Arragi's "library", thus giving him the tools he need to do what he has to do in the future without Oshino's presence. The fact that she feels what he feels because of residing in his shadow gives her even better skills to truly give him the information and knowledge he needs.

As said in bakemonogatari "Oshino is a magnificent bastard" ... truly a correct definition of what he is.

NisiOisiN, I salute you!


Offline BowlofRice

  • Member
  • Posts: 150
  • Call me Gohan, Shimapan...or BowlofRiceKrispies!
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #204 on: March 15, 2012, 07:40:29 PM »
This is one of those anime's that gets better the more you rewatch it

One of the things I'm hung up right now is if you know the events of Kizumonogatari (aka what happened to Arraragi and Shinobu) the impact it has what Oshino has done to Shinobu ... aka infusing her with all the knowledge he has of oddities so she can become Arragi's "library", thus giving him the tools he need to do what he has to do in the future without Oshino's presence. The fact that she feels what he feels because of residing in his shadow gives her even better skills to truly give him the information and knowledge he needs.

As said in bakemonogatari "Oshino is a magnificent bastard" ... truly a correct definition of what he is.

NisiOisiN, I salute you!

I'm dying for the movie to be released and resisting all urges to read it beforehand. D:

PS: I watched Katanagatari and while its separate from Bakemono/Nisemono/Kizumono you can tell that its NisiOisiN's work, which is all awesome and worth watching.

PSS: It sucks that the localized blu-rays of Katana were butchered as I've heard online; apparently the fansubs are of a startlingly higher quality, and worse they are hard subs.  :-\

Offline TwEeD

  • Member
  • Posts: 843
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #205 on: March 15, 2012, 07:50:40 PM »
I can understand ... but reading Kizumonogatari really shines a different light on the  Araragi x Shinobu relationship

Things like "I will never forgive you and you will never forgive me" said in Nisemonogatari really make sense when you know the story behind it

Actually Kizumonogatari gives much explanations about the Araragi x Hanekawa & Araragi x Shinobu relations ... when it's out i'm sure a lot of people will rewatch Bakemonogatari & Nisemonogatari to truly understand what the dialogues are about

That's why I love it, it's not something that is simplified but something you got to discover yourself bit by bit with what the monogatari series gives you

*edit* Yeah Katanagatari is so NisiOisiN ... the dialogue is superb and while the ending can be pretty let down for some people I found it really deep. Unconventional is the best way to describe it, yet it parodies/follows so much conventions, truly a work of art. The end of episode 11

(click to show/hide)

ranks in my top anime moments ever. Everything was perfect ... the premise, the dialogue and certainly the music. Every time I watch it my hair raises and I can't control my emotions.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 08:02:48 PM by TwEeD »

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #206 on: March 15, 2012, 08:28:45 PM »
I agree, dialog, action, and it's lack in some point. Everything perfectly calculated.
I know a lot of people didn't really like the story, but personally, it's a one of a kind Katana Story.

The best thing in fact was the relationship and loyalty, and following the path to complete her revenge.
That story is a lot more romantic than most people notice, which is sad because so many people watched it for the witty dialogs and the action so they completely and blatantly missed the romantic atmosphere nearly in every episode.

And the final episode had the culmination of the romance that so many viewers completely missed.


I also wait for Kizumonogatari, from Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari you can nearly easily figure out the relationship between Araragi and Hanekawa and also Shinobu and Araragi, but that is all due to what we hear and read believing in the accuracy of given information, and as we know, we know very little about that.

I'll probably re-watch Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari (the latter for lulz mostly but who wouldn't?) right before watching Kizumonogatari.

Offline TwEeD

  • Member
  • Posts: 843
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #207 on: March 15, 2012, 08:43:01 PM »
For me Katanagatari: it's a real beauty when you somewhat understand where the beauty lies. The ending episode is truly epic because of the journey up until then and it isn't about the conclusion but really about what has been before. For me it embodies the Japanese sense of beauty, can't really explain it well though as I can bring what I feel under words.

As for Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari I rather re-watch them after ... Kizumonogatari gives a lot of answers to the "mysteries" in them ... it's not that big but just gives a justification/reason as how things turn out in both series. I'm sure even if you re-watch it before you will still re-watch it after to see it under a different light.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 08:47:28 PM by TwEeD »

Offline Clannad_92

  • Member
  • Posts: 1259
  • The return of Isurugi Noe
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #208 on: March 16, 2012, 05:11:57 PM »
tsukihi's opening is great...

my opinion season 1 : nadeko's opening ftw!!
               season 2 : tsukihi's opening ftw!!

btw, cant wait for next ep...

It's probably because she always dreams of her brother lol, I mean, she had him wipe the sweat, kiss her, and now nearly gave her and orgasm and she wanted more obviously.

/continued giggles/
yesss!! +1...

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #209 on: March 17, 2012, 04:28:23 PM »
And now Tsukihi joins the "Kissed-by-brother Fiery Sisters!"


Lold at her reaction, was pure epics right there :)

Offline TwEeD

  • Member
  • Posts: 843
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #210 on: March 17, 2012, 05:06:21 PM »
I wonder how many will rage at the ending sequence heh

I already knew
(click to show/hide)
and really don't like it either... I love NisiOisiN's writing but hate his
(click to show/hide)

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #211 on: March 17, 2012, 05:14:48 PM »
I knew about it as well since she mentioned getting
(click to show/hide)

I expect quite a lot of people rage but personally, she looked good, even though it was better earlier, it still looks good.

And that dress ? perfect.

I liked Tsukihi's reaction to hearing about Araragi having a girlfriend.
This Family is incredibly deeply bonded, which is why he fights so strongly for it. If everyone is willing to die for the other's sake, you can't get any stronger bonds than that as a family...

And yet they seem to have lol, still seeing Karen :D
Not Enough of that but I must remain calm, even though that was obviously the most lulzy moment of the entire show :D

Offline Nodame-chan

  • Member
  • Posts: 3866
  • コ・イ・シ・テ・ル
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #212 on: March 17, 2012, 08:43:28 PM »
I'm in love with ep 11 Shinobu :D
(click to show/hide)
今夜月は綺麗ですね?

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #213 on: March 17, 2012, 09:28:00 PM »
That actually wasn't her full adult body yet, more like teenagers.
If you look carefully, she looked exactly like Karen, just different clothes but everything else was like Karen, just blonde.

Offline Nodame-chan

  • Member
  • Posts: 3866
  • コ・イ・シ・テ・ル
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #214 on: March 17, 2012, 09:34:42 PM »
That actually wasn't her full adult body yet, more like teenagers.
If you look carefully, she looked exactly like Karen, just different clothes but everything else was like Karen, just blonde.

Yes yes. I noticed that,. well i've seen her full adult face in the trailer of kizumonogatari. She's beautiful.
今夜月は綺麗ですね?

Offline deadskin

  • Member
  • Posts: 928
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #215 on: March 18, 2012, 05:02:04 AM »
Aaaand finally Fanservistory comes to an end.

Offline Clannad_92

  • Member
  • Posts: 1259
  • The return of Isurugi Noe
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #216 on: March 18, 2012, 07:01:34 AM »
man, this show ended at ep11?
i thought it would be moar!!

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #217 on: March 18, 2012, 08:36:58 AM »
I would kind of want to see his sisters meeting Hitagi just to see their reactions :)

Offline xdiv

  • Member
  • Posts: 113
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #218 on: March 18, 2012, 10:14:30 AM »
I would kind of want to see his sisters meeting Hitagi just to see their reactions :)
nothing good will com from that :D
either biggest cat fight or araragi will be torn to pieces :D
Because sanity is seriously overrated
Guilty Crown
The right to use my friend as a weapon.
That is the sinful crown I shall adorn

Offline Havoc10K

  • Member
  • Posts: 23081
Re: Nisemonogatari
« Reply #219 on: March 18, 2012, 10:28:05 AM »
Why would you think that ? Hitagi is devoted, and his sisters would simply go mind-fuck that their bro has such a cute tsundere as a girlfriend. Seeing Tsukihi's reaction was awesome, I'd love to see Karen's face seeing her, especially since I think she knows about Hitagi, since she knows Hanekawa.