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Nisemonogatari
xShadow:
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--- Quote from: Havoc10K on June 23, 2012, 07:30:23 AM ---A lot of people seem to expect something Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari aren't supposed to deliver. And that is why you don't enjoy it. You don't even seem to understand what the story is about.
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I don't know what kind of deep meaning you see in the stories presented.
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There you go, you just proved it. There's no deep meaning and you're not supposed to look for one. The point is the way it tells a fairly mundane story.
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It has high production values. I have already admitted that. I don't see what I "proved". I was hoping you could illuminate some obscure facet of the story that I had yet to see, rather than affirming what I saw as obvious.
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on June 23, 2012, 08:57:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: froody1911 on June 23, 2012, 08:45:06 AM ---
--- Quote from: xShadow on June 23, 2012, 08:07:50 AM ---
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on June 23, 2012, 07:30:23 AM ---A lot of people seem to expect something Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari aren't supposed to deliver. And that is why you don't enjoy it. You don't even seem to understand what the story is about.
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I don't know what kind of deep meaning you see in the stories presented.
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There you go, you just proved it. There's no deep meaning and you're not supposed to look for one. The point is the way it tells a fairly mundane story.
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Exactly, it's just another slice of life with odd beings and some moe, oh and making your sister orgasm with a toothbrush. Epix !
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That's fine and all. That's why it gets a 7/10-ish (give or take 0.5). I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying it's not amazing.
Lord of Fire:
From what I heard, Nisemonogatari wasn't meant to be really 'deep' anyway. While most other stories in the franchise are supposedly more serious, Nise is said to have been written with no real thought behind it and while it has obvious connection with its prequel, there isn't really much new we learn, apart from Tsukihi not being who she appears to be. But, Koyomi doesn't care, so in the end, we're back to where we started.
Still, it's amazing that the show is doing as well as it is. If this were any other show, it probably wouldn't sell as much, or at all.
Havoc10K:
Not only Koyomi, no one gives a shit about her real identity, she is His sister, and that's what matters to everyone.
sackii:
I enjoyed Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari not nearly as much. Guess I'm not into the whole incest lolicon brutally honest unfaithful douchebag for a main character. Also not enough Senjougahara scenes, arcs lasted twice as long as they should have.
You can barely compare both seasons as the first one was interestingly harboring new concepts, had many arcs/stories and deep characters we'd get to know. Nisemonogatari was pretty much empty souls being brutally honest while doing lewd stuff.
It's as if the scriptwriter quit between the two seasons and they gave the contract to the voice actors : There, improvise in this room for 3 days or we kill your family. Then they recorded everything and promised the extra money to the animators for crazy facial animations.
mrdkreka:
--- Quote from: sackii on June 25, 2012, 11:04:33 PM ---I enjoyed Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari not nearly as much. Guess I'm not into the whole incest lolicon brutally honest unfaithful douchebag for a main character. Also not enough Senjougahara scenes, arcs lasted twice as long as they should have.
You can barely compare both seasons as the first one was interestingly harboring new concepts, had many arcs/stories and deep characters we'd get to know. Nisemonogatari was pretty much empty souls being brutally honest while doing lewd stuff.
It's as if the scriptwriter quit between the two seasons and they gave the contract to the voice actors : There, improvise in this room for 3 days or we kill your family. Then they recorded everything and promised the extra money to the animators for crazy facial animations.
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They are based on LN by Nisio Isin, so unless Shaft changed a lot from the original there wasn't much they could do, but yeah Isin also admitted that he considered Nisemonogatari the worst vol of his monogatari novel.
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