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New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« on: September 17, 2011, 05:32:15 PM »
Ok, everyone! I am purchasing a new computer for upcoming PC titles that are going to be hitting this fall, which include:

Rage
Battlefield 3 (guestimate)
Skyrim (guestimate)
Star Wars: The Old Republic

Above are the games that I would like to play on full detail or at least close to full detail and the system requirements they will likely require. I won't be playing on anything bigger than 1366x768 and I don't care about having UBER multisampling AA or anything like that. Now, here is what I'm getting:

BIOSTAR 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
PowerColor Radeon HD 6850 1GB
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz
Mushkin Enhanced SP 6GB (2GB x 3) DDR3 1333
(Power supply is a 575W... more than enough for the above stated)

I KNOW that it's all very cheap products... and the DDR3 1333 is slower than DDR 1600, but I don't see what's the big fuss of 1600 over 1333 is. My question to you all is, will the above products work well at running those games I've stated at high setting (maybe not ultra) and still get a moderately good framerate above 40 fps? The only off brand products are the PowerColor Video card and the Mushkin RAM. I mean, is the extra ten dollars to get the Gigabyte 6850 and the extra 8 dollars for the Corsair XMS3 RAM worth it?

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 05:41:14 PM »
That motherboard only has 6 slots for DVD/HDD (or 7 if you count the none sata one). How will you manage with that few? (First time I ever heard of Biostar, they seem reputable though.)

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 05:44:20 PM »
That motherboard only has 6 slots for DVD/HDD (or 7 if you count the none sata one). How will you manage with that few? (First time I ever heard of Biostar, they seem reputable though.)

O.o

Your sarcasm reaches no bounds. But at least you tried to be helpful. :)

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 05:46:12 PM »
I was serious, I had to disconnect a hdd whenever I wanted to plug in my DVD drive when I only had 6 slots on my old motherboard. It is a serious consideration.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 05:46:18 PM »
Ati Reference cards have horrible noise, not sure if that gigabyte is any better though. If you could test them or find source of somewhat reliable info about the noise levels it'd tell you. So can't say for sure.

Memory probably is, you'll hate it a few years later when your RAM starts making you get bsods.

I got a dual core from years ago and a 6850 and I have no problems running new games from full so I think you should be good for most stuff on high. Haven't been updated on the latests trends too much though I'd suggest waiting for more info on that.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 05:56:08 PM »
Ati Reference cards have horrible noise, not sure if that gigabyte is any better though. If you could test them or find source of somewhat reliable info about the noise levels it'd tell you. So can't say for sure.

Memory probably is, you'll hate it a few years later when your RAM starts making you get bsods.

I got a dual core from years ago and a 6850 and I have no problems running new games from full so I think you should be good for most stuff on high. Haven't been updated on the latests trends too much though I'd suggest waiting for more info on that.

The PoweColor 6850 is about ~10 dbA quieter than 460 GTX as seen here.

So go for the Corsair RAM instead?

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 06:03:23 PM »
That seems acceptable.

I'd say yes, at least if it fails, you can get new one for free. RAM is rather cheap though, so you could just buy new one if it fails too. If you're going to overclock then you have to choose the corsair but if not you can just go with the cheaper and if it starts BSODing in the future because of RAM failure just buy new, preferences really.

Actually I lied before, I have a 6950 not 6850 so not sure if you'd be able to run things like you want in the future but the next step up is a lot more money so probably not worth it.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 06:10:04 PM »
That seems acceptable.

I'd say yes, at least if it fails, you can get new one for free. RAM is rather cheap though, so you could just buy new one if it fails too. If you're going to overclock then you have to choose the corsair but if not you can just go with the cheaper and if it starts BSODing in the future because of RAM failure just buy new, preferences really.

Actually I lied before, I have a 6950 not 6850 so not sure if you'd be able to run things like you want in the future but the next step up is a lot more money so probably not worth it.

Comparable performance... You have any extra 13% performance for the extra $50 you paid. :P

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 06:24:23 PM »
50% increase plus the 15% more from flashing to 6970 ;)

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 06:30:24 PM »
Your selected motherboard is only PCI-E 2.0 whereas your GPU is PCI-E 2.1. The GPU won't work.


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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 06:31:27 PM »
BIOSTAR 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
does this mobo support all of Thuban's features (e.g. Turbo Core)?

Compatibility is one thing. Optimal performance is another.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 06:34:32 PM »
just copy some other's build, specially ones from datora.

note: they should have already bought they posted rig and you can ask them how they perform, personally.
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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 06:37:36 PM »
BIOSTAR 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
does this mobo support all of Thuban's features (e.g. Turbo Core)?

Compatibility is one thing. Optimal performance is another.

It works and I can OC to 3.0 GHz with an aftermarket Fan/heatsink (which I already picked out) to optimal performance... :P

Your selected motherboard is only PCI-E 2.0 whereas your GPU is PCI-E 2.1. The GPU won't work.

 ::) Ummm, It works, trust me.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 06:41:52 PM »
BIOSTAR 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
does this mobo support all of Thuban's features (e.g. Turbo Core)?

Compatibility is one thing. Optimal performance is another.

It works and I can OC to 3.0 GHz with an aftermarket Fan/heatsink (which I already picked out) to optimal performance... :P

Your selected motherboard is only PCI-E 2.0 whereas your GPU is PCI-E 2.1. The GPU won't work.

 ::) Ummm, It works, trust me.

How does it work? I'm really curious about that. My friend bought a 2.1 card when his mobo was 2.0 and it didn't work.


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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 06:56:09 PM »
^ google "PCI-E 2.1 cards on 2.0 slot"

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2011, 07:09:58 PM »
Tamarin, you like consoles, you want a new PC, so here is a solution that will fulfil all your wishes:

http://www.originpc.com/thebigo-features.asp

As you can see, you get both a monster rig for your PC games and a watercooled Xbox 360 (PS3 available as an optional console)... All in one!  ;)

On a more serious note, any reason why you chose AMD CPU over Intel? I ask because it seems like AMD has been lagging behind Intel ever since Core 2 Duo was released.

I am actually also upgrading my rig. Ordered an Intel i7 2600 (sandy bridge) 3,4 Ghz, a fitting motherboard for it and    
CORSAIR DDR3 8GB Kit which is 1600MHz. In my case the dilemma was the fact that the motherboard supports 2133Mhz ram, but it is much more expensive.
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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2011, 07:54:47 PM »
Because AMD is half the cost of intel?  ::)

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2011, 08:13:18 PM »
I ask because it seems like AMD has been lagging behind Intel ever since Core 2 Duo was released.
Intel stomps over AMD in terms of pure performance. AMD however doesn't lag far behind (if it's not leading) in performance/price.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2011, 08:33:32 PM »
Tamarin, you like consoles, you want a new PC, so here is a solution that will fulfil all your wishes:

http://www.originpc.com/thebigo-features.asp

As you can see, you get both a monster rig for your PC games and a watercooled Xbox 360 (PS3 available as an optional console)... All in one!  ;)

On a more serious note, any reason why you chose AMD CPU over Intel? I ask because it seems like AMD has been lagging behind Intel ever since Core 2 Duo was released.

I am actually also upgrading my rig. Ordered an Intel i7 2600 (sandy bridge) 3,4 Ghz, a fitting motherboard for it and    
CORSAIR DDR3 8GB Kit which is 1600MHz. In my case the dilemma was the fact that the motherboard supports 2133Mhz ram, but it is much more expensive.

What the fuck is that? That's like frankenputer... O.O

Anyways, AMD is significantly cheaper than Intel in price to performance. The 1055T X6 that I went is knee deep in Xeon territory... but Xeon processors are far more expensive than the X6 series from AMD. So no, I don't have an i7 processor that can take over the world, but I do have a processor that it quite powerful... powerful enough to keep up with an i7 980X at a fraction of the cost. Who wants to spend $1000 on a CPU anyways? My entire setup that I bought cost me $500 and I'll be able to play games at max setting for at least a year or two. The RAM on the other hand... DDR 1600 doesn't SEEM to be better than the 1333 in my price range (1800 and 2133 are a different story)... but regardless, my mobo can OC the Corsair RAM to DDR 1600 speeds anyways.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 08:47:11 PM »
BIOSTAR 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
does this mobo support all of Thuban's features (e.g. Turbo Core)?

Compatibility is one thing. Optimal performance is another.

It works and I can OC to 3.0 GHz with an aftermarket Fan/heatsink (which I already picked out) to optimal performance... :P

Your selected motherboard is only PCI-E 2.0 whereas your GPU is PCI-E 2.1. The GPU won't work.

 ::) Ummm, It works, trust me.

How does it work? I'm really curious about that. My friend bought a 2.1 card when his mobo was 2.0 and it didn't work.


You can put a 2.1 card into a 1.1 slot and it will work, just at the 1.0/1.1 speeds.  If it does not then there is a different problem causing it.