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Offline kitamesume

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2011, 08:10:02 PM »
ahaha, well true at that. thats why i noted it was optional if you dont plan on getting an add-on sound card.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2011, 08:32:15 PM »
I wanted to write a long reply but I've decided to just say Good luck and have fun releasing magic smoke.
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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2011, 08:41:09 PM »
I wanted to write a long reply but I've decided to just say Good luck and have fun releasing magic smoke.

Magic smoke? Are you trying to imply my rig will blow up?

That is so funny that I'll have this buddy do my laughing for me.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2011, 03:29:40 AM »
Magic smoke? Are you trying to imply my rig will blow up?
people have already stated:

There are only four phases on the board and zero MOSFET heatsink, don't be surprise if it can't handle the load and fry itself.

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« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2011, 05:24:41 AM »
I'm gonna be using that computer ONLY for gaming. No websurfing, movie watching... NOTHING... just games.
...and I'm at the same clock as the 965BE while having better performance in games and head and shoulders above in applications.
...why does the 1055T beat it out in applications?
The above speaks for itself.

True, a 965BE can also be overclocked well to 4GHz, but it only has 4 cores. I can Overclock my 1055T to 4GHz... and I bought the extra cooling equipment to get benchmark results that show that the 1055T is very beastly when overclocked while using multi-thread friendly applications (which most games these days take advantage of).
Oh hey, you do realize that the 965 can be overclocked, too! Also, you might want to take another look at these games you think will be making good use of all cores on a hexa.

I'll try out 4.0 GHz... but to run it from day to day.. I'll probably only do 3.4 GHz.
Well, so much much for all the "extra cooling equipment" to support a 4GHz overclock on the 1055T; if all you're doing is matching the 965BE's stock clock speed then you're comparing apples to oranges (well, you are anyhow, but setting that aside for now), you should compare the theoretical OCed clock speeds on the 1055 with theoretical OCed clock speeds on the 965 before drawing conclusions. This would be a good time to note that a 965BE is likely to be rather comfortable hanging out around 4GHz on less-than-stellar air cooling setups.

6 GBs of RAM is plenty enough for now (I would never be using that extra 2 GBs anyways).
Nor will you be using the third 2GB module when gaming.

Do your research, cause I did.  8)
Doing research and correctly interpreting it are two entirely different things.

I didn't ask people to tear apart my build and say "You can get this and this and this and you'll have a better system!" Yeah... at an extra $100
Uh, thus far all the the constructive suggestions have been attempting to save you money while resulting in a system that's better equipped as a gaming rig.

My problem with the 965 BE isn't that it it's not good enough for me, it's that the overclocking potential is easier to perform.
Whoa, whoa, whoa... Did you just say what I think you said? That overclocking potential is more accessible on the 1055T?  Otherwise you were saying the easier overclocking of the 965BE is the problem you have with it. Either way, this doesn't make one damn scrap of sense. Are you even reading what you've typed, or even thinking about it as you type it? It's as if your hands and keyboard are in cahoots to produce this text vomit that's been engineered to undermine your own points.

The only difference is the clock speed. If the clock speed was level between the 1055T and the 965BE, the 1055T would outperform it (cause it has more cores).
This is entirely moot since the 965BE will clock higher than the 1055T can hope to get with less effort, and once again, please take another look at identifying games that are actually going to effectively utilize four cores, much less six.

So yes, I think I got my answer of the setup will run most (if not all) games on high setting, especially since I'm doing mild OC'ing to around 3.4 GHz on the 1055T.
Upon further thought, and with the exception of SWTOR, I think an Xbox360 might be the best bet for your gaming hardware needs~

My question to you all is, will the above products work well at running those games I've stated at high setting (maybe not ultra) and still get a moderately good framerate above 40 fps?
Yes, it'll probably manage 40fps just fine with sane graphics settings in the games you listed, but you can achieve better results for less money with different hardware.

Just now I noticed that these posts are all past tense in regards to your order:
The 1055T X6 that I went (with) is knee deep in Xeon territory...
My entire setup that I bought cost me $500 and I'll be able to play games at max setting for at least a year or two.
As for running stuff, I think I should be safe with the hardware I bought for some time.
So as early as three hours after your original post you'd already ordered your components. Despite that, you continue to let people waste their time trying to help you for another two pages, all the while telling them that they're wrong in rather condescending tone as you attempt to justify and defend your lulzy hardware selection? Why couldn't you have just put this thread out of it's fscking misery on page one with a simple post to the effect of, "Hey guys, thanks for input, but I just pulled the trigger and submitted my order"?

Are you hungry for attention, or is there something you enjoy making an arse of yourself? Voluntarily dragging out a couple more pages of spouting misinterpreted benchmarks as citations for your horribly ass-backwards misconceptions about computer hardware... I never post on BBT, nor will I again for a long time to come, but your condescending attitude towards the people who were offering extremely valid constructive criticism rubbed me the wrong way.  Then I was rather vexed once I realized you were wasting people's time—having already pulled the trigger—and then talking down to them.

If staff has mercy on us they'll kill this thread before it victimizes anyone else who's unable to overlook it. God knows I wish I'd been able to /ignore it...

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Re: /sigh
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2011, 05:39:00 AM »
Just now I noticed that these posts are all past tense in regards to your order:
The 1055T X6 that I went (with) is knee deep in Xeon territory...
My entire setup that I bought cost me $500 and I'll be able to play games at max setting for at least a year or two.
As for running stuff, I think I should be safe with the hardware I bought for some time.
So as early as three hours after your original post you'd already ordered your components. Despite that, you continue to let people waste their time trying to help you for another two pages, all the while telling them that they're wrong in rather condescending tone as you attempt to justify and defend your lulzy hardware selection? Why couldn't you have just put this thread out of it's fscking misery on page one with a simple post to the effect of, "Hey guys, thanks for input, but I just pulled the trigger and submitted my order"?

Are you hungry for attention, or is there something you enjoy making an arse of yourself? Voluntarily dragging out a couple more pages of spouting misinterpreted benchmarks as citations for your horribly ass-backwards misconceptions about computer hardware... I never post on BBT, nor will I again for a long time to come, but your condescending attitude towards the people who were offering extremely valid constructive criticism rubbed me the wrong way.  Then I was rather vexed once I realized you were wasting people's time—having already pulled the trigger—and then talking down to them.

If staff has mercy on us they'll kill this thread before it victimizes anyone else who's unable to overlook it. God knows I wish I'd been able to /ignore it...
He wasn't asking for recommendations. He was showing off his build.

No one was impressed.

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Re: /sigh
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2011, 06:06:31 AM »
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Ah, you have discovered TMR's nature. He's often like that; sometimes I feel like he argues just for the sake of arguing. About one out of five times, I actually agree with him on whatever he's saying. The other four times, I pretty much just don't waste my time saying anything, because he's the kind of guy that just never "gets it." Not to mention his memory appears to be quite terrible, as he often does not remember anything posted more than five posts back, other than his own posts (well, most of them).

I'm known for my tenacity, but I know when giving up would do me far more good than pressing on, and trying to make a point to this guy that does not agree with his opinion is one of those times.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 06:08:03 AM by Freedom Kira »

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« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2011, 07:03:44 AM »
Yeah, the things I read in this thread make a whole lot more sense when viewed from the angle pointed out by Lupin. I had just been taking this as a typical system build thread. One where the OP stated what his intentions for the system are, and then lists the hardware he's considering to meet those demands. Then posters followed up with suggestions that would save the OP money and/or perform better in the stated role of the system.

I was just rather put off and a bit confused when any posts suggesting a change in hardware selection to improve performance and/or save money were met with a condescending OP response of, "No you're wrong. I know better than you". All this make much more sense when I look at the original post, and following responses, knowing that the OP didn't actually want feedback or suggestions on his hardware choices.

Thanks for clearing that up, Lupin. :3
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 08:28:00 AM by nullx32 »

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2011, 11:30:08 AM »
Despite the time wasted on this thread by many including myself I still wanna see how well he overclocks it and not just to gloat if it blows but for curiosity.
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Offline TMRNetShark

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2011, 12:31:04 PM »
nullx32... I had ordered my PC by post #18... you just wasted your own time. (especially with that long ass post)


Lupin... I'm gonna quote myself because you can't read:
I KNOW that it's all very cheap products... and the DDR3 1333 is slower than DDR 1600, but I don't see what's the big fuss of 1600 over 1333 is. My question to you all is, will the above products work well at running those games I've stated at high setting (maybe not ultra) and still get a moderately good framerate above 40 fps?

@ Freedom Kira: HAHAHAHAHAHAHhahaha h.. You hadn't made a single post in this entire thread and then you try criticize me? Trolololololo...

Despite the time wasted on this thread by many including myself I still wanna see how well he overclocks it and not just to gloat if it blows but for curiosity.

So your going on about the MOSFET cooling again? If your gonna be ignorant... at least try giving me some credit in that I would have gotten the proper cooling equipment for overclocking.  ::)

I mean jeez, do you want me to link my harddrive too? Maybe that will be crappy and slow down my system. What about the PCI wireless card? Want the link to that as well just incase it "bottlenecks" my system?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 12:32:37 PM by TMRNetShark »

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2011, 01:02:25 PM »
overclocking 1055t is hard because the multiplier is locked, I never said anything about cooling.

As for hard drive, I hope you have an ssd for an extra 10 fps.
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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2011, 01:28:40 PM »
overclocking 1055t is hard because the multiplier is locked, I never said anything about cooling.

As for hard drive, I hope you have an ssd for an extra 10 fps.

I giggled a little there...

Yes, the multiplier is locked, but that doesn't mean you can't raise the core clock. If you think overclocking a 1055t is hard, google it. There are people who are overclocking their 1055t's to 3.4 and 3.5 GHz on the stock fan and heatsink. I ordered an aftermarket one along with the MOSFET heatsinks.

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2011, 01:30:50 PM »
Lupin... I'm gonna quote myself because you can't read:
I KNOW that it's all very cheap products... and the DDR3 1333 is slower than DDR 1600, but I don't see what's the big fuss of 1600 over 1333 is. My question to you all is, will the above products work well at running those games I've stated at high setting (maybe not ultra) and still get a moderately good framerate above 40 fps?

Despite the time wasted on this thread by many including myself I still wanna see how well he overclocks it and not just to gloat if it blows but for curiosity.

So your going on about the MOSFET cooling again? If your gonna be ignorant... at least try giving me some credit in that I would have gotten the proper cooling equipment for overclocking.  ::)
Just proves how clueless you really are. You think slapping some mosfet heatsinks will be enough to prevent your 3+1 phase mobo from blowing up with overclocks?
« Last Edit: September 20, 2011, 01:35:46 PM by Lupin »

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Re: New computer being built for upcoming PC titles!
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2011, 01:53:01 PM »
There's actually a name for what happened in this thread: Post-purchase rationalization
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« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2011, 01:59:38 PM »
nullx32... I had ordered my PC by post #18... you just wasted your own time. (especially with that long ass post)
Yes, post #18 was where you first started using past tense to refer to the order, and as I stated that was three hours after your original post. What's your point? Or you just confirming that you had already ordered everything rendering all the thread beyond post #18 totally moot?

And yes, I most definitely did waste quite a bit of my time of my own volition. As you can tell by my post count I rarely spend time on the BBT forums, mostly because of people such as yourself. I can tolerate ignorance well enough—normally I get a lulz out of it—but being condescending towards those who have spent their time trying to be helpful, especially when all discussion beyond post #18 was entirely meaningless, provoked me to waste my time putting together some highlights of your contradictions, poorly formed and often baseless arguments, and amazingly stubborn tendencies when it comes to any opinions that differ from your own.

Also, what does it matter if Freedom Kira hadn't yet posted in this thread? He was responding to my post on this page. Or does having posted earlier some increase credibility? Further, based on your behavior in this thread (which is all I have to go on), I'd say his assessment of you is pretty damn accurate. Hopefully this thread will get killed before this drags out any further as I can't seem to help myself from wasting time pointing out the obvious, since it seems to be constantly eluding you.

P.S. Why would you drop $15 on some cheap heatsinks attached with 3M thermal tape when that $15 could've—and should have—gone towards a better motherboard that wouldn't need a half-ass solution like stick-on heatsinks?