Author Topic: Built this PC 2 months back. (Read 3155 times)

kitamesume · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:14:46 AM »

@fohfoh or TMRNetShark
i`m using MadVR as the decoder for Mastroska.

fohfoh · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:16:25 AM »

Quote from: kitamesume on September 21, 2011, 12:14:46 AM

^ i`m using MadVR as the decoder for Mastroka.

What's the memory usage of something like that? My P4 keeps going belly up with mkv. MPC and Zoom are failing hardcore. WMV is winning but teh shittay for mem usage, VLC is the only thing that "works". <_<

kitamesume · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:20:19 AM »

about 300MB, well memory isnt the issue here it seems, rather its CPU power, i`m hitting 40% when i use MPC-HC's embedded decoder without madVR, hitting 80% with MadVR.

i ditched CCCP video decoder

still using audio decoder though.

ah, have a rig E3300 overclocked to 3.3Ghz if that matters. its a wolfdale celeron.

bloody000 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:40:12 AM »

Madvr is a renderer.
And almost everything free under the sun is ffmpeg-based.

fohfoh · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:50:54 AM »

Zoom player doesn't show an image.

MPC shows broken frames but also sounds like the sound is coming out of an air craft carrier.

Though it probably makes more sense just to upgrade rather than keep using the old P4. Fileserver might be the option... HP prebuilts are bottoming out in price. A new HTPC might be had for 300-400 for black friday or boxing day...

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #25 on:** September 21, 2011, 12:55:26 AM »

Quote from: kitamesume on September 21, 2011, 12:20:19 AM

about 300MB, well memory isnt the issue here it seems, rather its CPU power, i`m hitting 40% when i use MPC-HC's embedded decoder without madVR, hitting 80% with MadVR.

i ditched CCCP video decoder still using audio decoder though.

ah, have a rig E3300 overclocked to 3.3Ghz if that matters. its a wolfdale celeron.

That doesn't make sense... 40%? On a CPU that's newer/better than my current T4200? Oh wait, I'm using CoreAVC.....

fohfoh · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:00:01 AM »

Hmm... I might just consider upgrading the HTPC and using the old one as a file server.

Back on topic... hardware without a purpose may end up with a fate like this....

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #27 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:08:43 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on September 21, 2011, 01:00:01 AM

Hmm... I might just consider upgrading the HTPC and using the old one as a file server.

Back on topic... hardware without a purpose may end up with a fate like this....

How much would that rig even cost? Well over $1200?

Are you fulfilled Osmo?

AceD · « **Reply #28 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:12:00 AM »

My PC is an i7, 12gig ddr3 ram and x2 sli gtx260s

What do i use it for? only to watch anime....do the same?

not wasted in the slightest.

fohfoh · « **Reply #29 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:16:01 AM »

Quote from: AceD on September 21, 2011, 01:12:00 AM

My PC is an i7, 12gig ddr3 ram and x2 sli gtx260s

What do i use it for? only to watch anime....do the same? not wasted in the slightest.

Fapping to 8 cores, writing a bazillion of lines, watching rammstein vids...

You must be doing many of that stuffs.

AceD · « **Reply #30 on:** September 21, 2011, 01:22:24 AM »

Theres something better to fap too, the liquid cooling glows mother fucking blue

Sosseres · « **Reply #31 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:31:45 PM »

I have been considering getting a great computer for ages. Then I run into the question you asked, prior to buying, thus I havn't. The most demanding thing I do is watch 1080p anime (which I kinda could do on my old rig, if it didn't have too flashy subs or high bitrate) and play games on high (I am happy with low in most cases). I feel that computing power has reached a place where uses for it is so rare it isn't worth upgrading. :/ Basically like 1 game a year tries for high end graphics now a days.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #32 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:58:48 PM »

Quote from: Sosseres on September 22, 2011, 04:31:45 PM

(...):/ Basically like 1 game a year tries for high end graphics now a days.

No, all games are trying high end, failing at plot and gameplay, horribly, very horribly.

I have a 2,6 GHz dual core playing 1080p without problems, without Core AVC.

I am planning on upgrading the CPU/RAM/GPU, but none of the games are so interesting i would say "hell I want to look at this game in ultra high setup because it is so awesome" (And the only game that is awesome for visual and story and gameplay is Alice: Madness Returns, but it has some Engine quirks that are annoying some people, but the overall is grand, GFX+SFX+Gameplay+Story are so great you don't think about those quirks much and you can play on very high details watching beautiful environments while saving Alice's sanity) because it's super rare to find a worthy game at all.

Sosseres · « **Reply #33 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:02:44 PM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on September 22, 2011, 04:58:48 PM

Quote from: Sosseres on September 22, 2011, 04:31:45 PM
(...):/ Basically like 1 game a year tries for high end graphics now a days.
No, all games are trying high end, failing at plot and gameplay, horribly, very horribly.

I have a 2,6 GHz dual core playing 1080p without problems, without Core AVC.

I am planning on upgrading the CPU/RAM/GPU, but none of the games are so interesting i would say "hell I want to look at this game in ultra high setup because it is so awesome" (And the only game that is awesome for visual and story and gameplay is Alice: Madness Returns, but it has some Engine quirks that are annoying some people, but the overall is grand, GFX+SFX+Gameplay+Story are so great you don't think about those quirks much and you can play on very high details watching beautiful environments while saving Alice's sanity) because it's super rare to find a worthy game at all.

Trying for high graphics is something like Crysis did. Where you can't run the highest settings on a high end computer. Not where an average mid- high computer maxes the game out.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #34 on:** September 22, 2011, 06:39:18 PM »

Starcraft 2 looks amazing on a mid range computer. Yet you don't see people complaining that it could be better. Crysis was a stellar game, but being able to run it on ultra NOW isn't a hard feat. Battlefield 3 on the other hand is a different story today. The recommended cards for that game is a GTX 560 or ATI 6950. Those aren't the top of the line, but I would imagine running that game with everything turned to high, 1600 x 1200+ resolution, and 64 players will put at least some strain on a lot of people's video cards, SLI/Crossfire or not.

kitamesume · « **Reply #35 on:** September 22, 2011, 06:50:02 PM »

right now i think the most broken game (i mean it takes too much grunt to get a good FPS) is Metro2033.

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Stsin · « **Reply #36 on:** September 22, 2011, 10:49:23 PM »

This is the type of game that I use my quad core on:

I've been playing with the Amiga and C64 emulators lately. Bringing back memories of my old favorites and awesome demos.

BUT what you can do to improve your anime experience, is view it interpolated at 60fps (or whatever your max refresh rate is).

Example:
@60 fps - http://www.spirton.com/uploads/InterFrame/20110618-Sample-InterFrame.mkv
Original - http://www.spirton.com/uploads/InterFrame/20110618-Sample-Original.mkv

Couple of tutorials on setting it up to play in real time:

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I have no problems with viewing 720p interpolated at 60fps in real time with extreme settings on my quad core, but 1080p is pushing it. If able to consistently do that smoothly, then your PC is a beast.

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #37 on:** September 23, 2011, 01:11:46 AM »

Quote from: Stsin on September 22, 2011, 10:49:23 PM

This is the type of game that I use my quad core on:

I've been playing with the Amiga and C64 emulators lately. Bringing back memories of my old favorites and awesome demos.

BUT what you can do to improve your anime experience, is view it interpolated at 60fps (or whatever your max refresh rate is).

Example:
@60 fps - http://www.spirton.com/uploads/InterFrame/20110618-Sample-InterFrame.mkv
Original - http://www.spirton.com/uploads/InterFrame/20110618-Sample-Original.mkv

Couple of tutorials on setting it up to play in real time:
(click to show/hide)
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3557786&postcount=199
(don't follow the whole guide for the installation. Works fine with CCCP installation plus the missing files.)
http://www.overclock.net/other-software/862978-guide-double-video-framerate-awsome-looking.html

While some don't like the "soap opera" effect with live action, I think it's awesome with animation. Though at times can notice some artifacts. But can always re-encode it with more intensive scripts to reduce that.

I have no problems with viewing 720p interpolated at 60fps in real time with extreme settings on my quad core, but 1080p is pushing it. If able to consistently do that smoothly, then your PC is a beast.

Is there actually a difference? (I didn't watch the video) because it all depends on the bit-rate of anime?

AceD · « **Reply #38 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:04:13 AM »

Quote from: Stsin on September 22, 2011, 10:49:23 PM

I have no problems with viewing 720p interpolated at 60fps in real time with extreme settings on my quad core, but 1080p is pushing it. If able to consistently do that smoothly, then your PC is a beast.

i downloaded Splash player pro to test that 60fps thing since its faster to setup, used Nanoha The Movie 1st 1080p BD...fight scene. Normal framerate is 1-2% cpu usage, 60fps it's 20-30%. I can't tell any difference at all between the two personally....

Transformers 2 1080p BD though...did actually seem like it had smoother playback at 60fps...CPU useage was slightly higher

TMRNetShark · « **Reply #39 on:** September 23, 2011, 02:13:31 AM »

Quote from: AceD on September 23, 2011, 02:04:13 AM

Quote from: Stsin on September 22, 2011, 10:49:23 PM

I have no problems with viewing 720p interpolated at 60fps in real time with extreme settings on my quad core, but 1080p is pushing it. If able to consistently do that smoothly, then your PC is a beast.
i downloaded Splash player pro to test that 60fps thing since its faster to setup, used Nanoha The Movie 1st 1080p BD...fight scene. Normal framerate is 1-2% cpu usage, 60fps it's 20-30%. I can't tell any difference at all between the two personally....

Transformers 2 1080p BD though...did actually seem like it had smoother playback at 60fps...CPU useage was slightly higher

That's probably because of the detail of real life versus... well... an anime.