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AceHigh:
Can you read Turkish by any chance? Because I am only getting info from one side of the propaganda, so I wonder if you know something I don't. I just read an article where the president declared that Turkish military is under his control now and that a bunch of generals had to resign which weakened the Turkish military influence. As I said, the lack of Turkish language doesn't permit me to find sources that tell the propaganda of the other side.
Also, if every Turk stays true to the Ataturk's ideals, then why did they elect an islam based party?
Should we make a new thread for this? :-\
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 28, 2011, 02:54:56 PM ---Can you read Turkish by any chance? Because I am only getting info from one side of the propaganda, so I wonder if you know something I don't. I just read an article where the president declared that Turkish military is under his control now and that a bunch of generals had to resign which weakened the Turkish military influence. As I said, the lack of Turkish language doesn't permit me to find sources that tell the propaganda of the other side.
Also, if every Turk stays true to the Ataturk's ideals, then why did they elect an islam based party?
Should we make a new thread for this? :-\
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Turkey has all of these things:
Parliament
Prime Minister
President
Chief of General Staff (of the armed forces)
The Chief of General Staff must report to the Prime Minister... but in the case of the 1980 coup d'état, they had given the PM and parliament all the time it needed to solve the social and economical issues. Since the Civilian government couldn't/wouldn't do anything... the military declared martial law and dissolved all the civilian politicians of their positions.
The current Prime minister knows that this could happen again... but Necdet Özel is the current acting Chief of General Staff. The reason I mentioned the 1980 coup d'état is because Özel became a full General that very same year and participated in the overthrow of the Turkish civilian government.
His beliefs now shows him as "separation of military and civilian government" type... but if Turkey ever truly moves away from Secularism, that does not stop him from planning another coup if they have not started it already. Don't be fooled by the Prime minister because the PM himself is trying to declare Turkey as an Islamic state so he can justify eradicating the Kurds out of southeastern Turkey without political opposition. There are major military bases in all the major cities of Turkey with thousands of troops in each base (Trabzon, where I'm from... has like 4 of these bases)... the PM can never truly get rid of the chance of another coup.
Back to PETA... PETA likes Turkey because we don't eat pork... so many pigs are spared. :P
undetz:
On the other hand you eat turkey.
AceHigh:
Alas, PETA's reach is limited to North America, so they don't have a say in either Europe, nor Middle East. Also, everyone knows that Turks eat Kurds, Armenians and European first-born. :P
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 28, 2011, 07:52:44 PM ---Alas, PETA's reach is limited to North America, so they don't have a say in either Europe, nor Middle East. Also, everyone knows that Turks eat Kurds, Armenians and European first-born. :P
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Don't you mean Christian first borns? *cough*Janissaries*cough*
Not really eating them... but making them our personal guard. :P
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