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Your view on AMD's Bulldozer
TMRNetShark:
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--- Quote from: nstgc on September 26, 2011, 10:12:46 PM ---Everything I've read about the Bulldozer's architecture screams "revolutionary", and I am an AMD fan boy, but when I went to build a new computer over the summer, I ended up buying a i5-2500k because it was more cost effective than AMD.
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Duh... it's better than the X6 1100T and it is only what? $20-$30 more expensive? Will Bulldozer bulldoze over Intel? Not likely. Intel is miles ahead of AMD but it's nice where AMD is at in the mid-level market for cost effective builds. Is the i5-2500k $20-$30 better than the 1100T? Probably $50-$100 better...
As for purely Bulldozer talk, It's just going to replace the Phenom II line of processors. They probably won't be any better than the top of the line i7 if not far worse. Expect prices to be around $200-$350 when they first come out.
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According this, pricing won't be be over $300 dollars but below.
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There will be "hardcore" versions that will eventually come out...
fohfoh:
--- Quote from: AceHigh on September 26, 2011, 10:57:19 PM ---I really hope that Bulldozer will be slightly better than Intel just so they get back in the race.
In my ideal world Intel and AMD would have 50/50 market share and both have big budget to compete so that we consumers get cheap CPUs ;)
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I almost have a feeling that intel has something up their sleeve just waiting for a slight AMD gnash at their old architecture. Why? I'd assume that intel has already created something super revolutionary. But...
A) Do not want to cut into their current offerings which still trounce AMD like candy over banana for a fat boy
B) Afraid of issues with monopoly if their market share begins to boost quickly.
It's probably just sitting somewhere waiting at 60-80% completion at some old xeon nehalem lab or something with a note saying, "Please don't open till AMD actually has fight again".
But I actually had a Barcelona chip. After doing some research, I was like, "Fuck this shit" and gave the chip away to our company's IT guy. Mobo alone was costing $300 bucks minimum buy in. "Free Processor Chip" with purchase of Windows Server 2008 back in the day.
Or maybe it wasn't a Barcelona chip. All I remember, it didn't fit the "regular" AMD2/AM3 mobo.
Will I buy a bulldozer? All I can say is, I'm more likely to buy an i7 than bulldozer at this point.
ColdFission:
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on September 26, 2011, 11:09:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: ColdFission on September 26, 2011, 11:07:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on September 26, 2011, 10:26:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: nstgc on September 26, 2011, 10:12:46 PM ---Everything I've read about the Bulldozer's architecture screams "revolutionary", and I am an AMD fan boy, but when I went to build a new computer over the summer, I ended up buying a i5-2500k because it was more cost effective than AMD.
--- End quote ---
Duh... it's better than the X6 1100T and it is only what? $20-$30 more expensive? Will Bulldozer bulldoze over Intel? Not likely. Intel is miles ahead of AMD but it's nice where AMD is at in the mid-level market for cost effective builds. Is the i5-2500k $20-$30 better than the 1100T? Probably $50-$100 better...
As for purely Bulldozer talk, It's just going to replace the Phenom II line of processors. They probably won't be any better than the top of the line i7 if not far worse. Expect prices to be around $200-$350 when they first come out.
--- End quote ---
According this, pricing won't be be over $300 dollars but below.
--- End quote ---
There will be "hardcore" versions that will eventually come out...
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Out of all the stuff I have reading on Bulldozer, there won't be any "hardcore" version of Zambezi that cost beyond $400 (or some uber CPU that will compete with Intel's uber CPUs that costs thousands of dollars at the moment like the 990x). AMD is planning on releasing newer stepping of Zambezi in Q1 2012 rumoured to be called the FX-8170 to become the flagship FX CPU from AMD (thus demoting the FX-8150). I think the making of super ultra xtreme version of desktop CPUs is pretty much over now from AMD. Intel only does there's (980x) just for flash and to put some salt down into AMD's eyes and to show off that their engineering is ahead of the competition, of which it is. Soon after, Bulldozer is going to be replaced by the Piledriver architecture and in 2013, it supposed to be Steamroller. Where the real money is for the desktop segments at $100-$350 and that is where AMD really needs to not drop the ball on because they really can't afford to right now.
bloody000:
you can have a more engaging conversation on anandtech, xtremesystems or techpowerup. just saying.
vuzedome:
I can't wait for benchmark results, that's all I care.
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