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Your view on AMD's Bulldozer
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: kureshii on October 15, 2011, 03:41:28 PM ---By rock-bottom I meant Sempron actually; old Athlon Is, 65nm X2s, and whatever else AMD has at that price point. What made you think an X6 is rock-bottom?
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Your transition made it sound like it was. And I know my X6 isn't rock bottom at all. It just can't compete with an i5-2500K. For the price, and what it can do though, I feel it's better than the Sandybridge. Running multiple application really doesn't hinder the performance of another program. That's what the Sandybridge's limitations are (not the i7 yet). The i5-2500K only have 4 threads versus it's bigger brother's 8 threads (the i7-2600K). My X6 1055T has 6 threads, 2 more cores, and still struggles to keep up in single threaded applications. My other guess is, throw a lot at the Sandybridge and throw a lot at the FX-8150... see which one can multitask better.
kureshii:
--- Quote from: TMRNetShark on October 15, 2011, 03:47:27 PM ---Your transition made it sound like it was. And I know my X6 isn't rock bottom at all. It just can't compete with an i5-2500K. For the price, and what it can do though, I feel it's better than the Sandybridge. Running multiple application really doesn't hinder the performance of another program. That's what the Sandybridge's limitations are (not the i7 yet). The i5-2500K only have 4 threads versus it's bigger brother's 8 threads (the i7-2600K). My X6 1055T has 6 threads, 2 more cores, and still struggles to keep up in single threaded applications. My other guess is, throw a lot at the Sandybridge and throw a lot at the FX-8150... see which one can multitask better.
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You don’t seem to have much idea how threading works, and how multicore processors handle loads. Raw logical core count alone isn’t everything.
vuzedome:
Oh I've seen this movie before.
You guys having a re-run?
TMRNetShark:
--- Quote from: kureshii on October 15, 2011, 03:52:43 PM ---You don’t seem to have much idea how threading works, and how multicore processors handle loads. Raw logical core count alone isn’t everything.
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Not a computer science person... but I know that if one thread is being tied up with a long-run piece of code or instructions... the other threads can still process data from memory or have it request the data from the hard drive. That's why multicore processors work well with multi-threaded applications. This is called time division multiplexing... or just multitasking. The problem is with programs that require "faster" CPUs tend to favor Intel... but when it comes to heavy multi-threaded applications... it's a toss up in the air. Then again, 4 core 965 BE's are in the same range as the 6-core X6's.
But comparing 6-core AMD CPUs to Intels 6-core CPUs? Intel's are around 3-6 times more expensive ($450-$1000)... Hell, even AMD's 8-core CPU doesn't even come close... (let alone the fact that it can't beat a freakin i5-2500K)
kitamesume:
^ to make it short, AMD is on the brink of giving up the PC segment, they'll lose more investors if they dont manage to recover next year, releasing product at their lowest possible price doesnt help either. though they're doing pretty fine in the server segment.
whats keeping them clinging to it is the Llano and the old phenoms/athlons, if they try discontinuing the phenom/athlon line then i dont even know what will happen to them.
what made them like this? the limited budget, the time it took them to create such a grotesque CPU, the lawsuits they've been throwing non-stop, not to mention their staffs resigning one after the other.
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