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Your view on AMD's Bulldozer
AceHigh:
I loled at AMD's names of their CPUs. What will come after that? The Tunneler? Dragliner?
kitamesume:
^piledriver, anand comments made me laugh though, PileDriver dubbed BendOver/ScrewdOver.
edit: Oh! i just noticed their scheme, they wanted to bulldoze their phenom lineup and piledrive them under, steam rolling for a nice finish. after 4years they'll excavate them back to perfection.
Lupin:
--- Quote from: kureshii on October 12, 2011, 10:04:38 AM ---Courtesy of TR comments.
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AHAHA. It's not a bulldozer but a frontloader though ;)
--- Quote from: kureshii on October 12, 2011, 11:16:23 AM ---I'm afraid AMD has already stumbled on the first column of that block; Performance-per-Watt (PPW because I'm lazy to type) is hardly up compared to Thuban. When Intel released the P4 with eerily similar prescriptions (software has to be tuned for this architecture for us to see improvements [...] this is a 'forward-looking' architecture), they were not so quick to acknowledge their mistake; it was an 8-year mistake which eventually led to nice things (Conroe). I sure hope AMD isn't going to make us wait that long ... if they can even afford to wait that long with the slim profit margins on their products. I don't expect them to match Intel anymore, but they're going to have to show us that 10% PPW improvement if we are to trust that chart. In the meantime, lay off the mushrooms and the delusions, AMD, and either get a proper marketing team, or stop mentioning Intel in your PR.
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This is my thinking as well. AMD has a good track record on improving on existing architectures (Phenom->Phenom II, 2900->3xxx series). I'm hoping they do something similar but at a faster pace.
This is AMD's first "real" new architecture since 1999. For a company whose R&D budget is smaller that its competitor's marketing budget, I'd still say they did a decent job. It's the closest they've been to intel since before the conroe days.
The SKUs available aren't a must buy though. They're quite underwhelming because of the increasing expectations caused by the delays and the impending releases of SB-E and IB. All FX 8xxx SKUs make a 2500K more attractive to me.
I'd probably get a 4xxx bulldozer. Overclocking it seems to be fun.
kitamesume:
^ if companies manages to release a 40-80$ mobo for BD then the budget end would be viable at least.
is there any 4xxx reviews yet?
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@kureshii
what i`m concerned about is if AMD would manage to live through that roadmap 4years of hell >.> why exactly? if intel loses competition entirely, expect i3s to start at 200$ more or less and say bye-bye AMD CPU and say hello to AMD APU.
Lupin:
--- Quote from: kitamesume on October 12, 2011, 02:32:25 PM ---what i`m concerned about is if AMD would manage to live through that roadmap 4years of hell >.> why exactly? if intel loses competition entirely, expect i3s to start at 200$ more or less and say bye-bye AMD CPU and say hello to AMD APU.
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Why won't they survive? AMD's second place for most of the company's life. The company's high volume products are selling well. If Interlagos performs well on the server front, that's big money as well. The common misunderstanding is that retail is where the money is. It's not. It's OEMs and servers that keeps the cash flowing. AMD's Llano and bobcat designs addresses the former while Interlagos is aiming for the latter.
Before AMD dies, you'll probably see much less frequent refresh cycles or higher prices for intel products. That is how intel will try to keep AMD alive. Intel doesn't really need AMD but they have to do that to keep the regulators from breaking up the company if AMD disappears.
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