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To start off, this is my first forum post in the 4 years I've been a member of BT ^_^

Anyway, I'm in the Navy and on the ship we have pretty limited space, my rack is like a box with a curtain making even watching anime on my laptop a pain in the ass. A lot of guys now get tablets to watch movies and Velcro to the top of their rack. Makes things pretty simple and easy to put away.

I was curious if anyone knew a good tablet that I would be able to watch my anime from my external HD or move it over to the tablet without having to go through the hassle of conversion and the like while still maintaining decent framerate/audio/and subtitles in place. The majority of my anime is in .mkv now but I have lots of .avi and the like. I've searched google and forums but unfortunately I couldn't really find a straight answer - though there may not be one.

If anyone has some constructive input I'd appreciate it. Thanks again guys.

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2011, 12:37:28 AM »
i dont think theres such a thing, usually tablets has ARM or Tegra for a cpu which just isnt great for decoding movies. but if you ever manage to get a tablet with something like an atom+ion or C-50/E350/E450 or even better cpus in it then sure it should be able to handle decoding your animes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215081 - this should work
http://www.guru3d.com/article/accelerate-x264-1080p-movies-over-the-gpu-guide/1 - and give this guide a shot

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2011, 12:56:33 AM »
Or, if you are willing to wait, you can wait for Windows 8 Tablets with that will come with much better and faster hardware than today's Windows tablets as well as a usable Metro style tablet GUI (which you can also change to the traditional Windows desktop at any time). There should be more powerful x86 SoCs (Systems on Chip) coming in from Intel and AMD however, the rest of the tablet market is dominated by hundreds of ARM SoC variants like Tegra from nVidia and I doubt that decoders would be compatible with ARM, even if you were to run Windows 8 on ARM (which the OS does support, depends on the devs to create programs to run in an ARM environment).

If you can't wait, I'd be willing to try out kitamesume's suggestion.

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2011, 03:49:48 AM »
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152278 - i missed this one, it has a longer battery life because of the lower power consumption and higher battery capacity, a really BIG plus for a mobile tablet =P

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 04:24:15 AM »
CURRENT CREW APPROACH:
The solution is easy if you think inside the Box <-- is this still a pun??   Just copycat and the first person to convert the anime shares it with everyone else. 

CURRENT CREW APPROACH #2:
You mentioned that the getting of converted of movies viewable on an iPad was your main problem.  If anything, if someone bought a portable WIRELESS hard drive and used that to archive a copy of every movie and anime converted or downloaded by everyone, then that would make sharing things amongst the crew much easier and people would start to join your little video group so to speak.  Of course, if you are forbidden EM devices, then a Wi-Fi external drive is no good.   Then it wouldn't be so tedious going from one person to another to find out what is available because everyone will be copying their stuff into the wireless storage drive.   

SUGGESTION #1:
Since this is Bakabt, all good idiots like us are thinking outside the box.  So, since a laptop is clearly superior in terms of what it can do compared to a proprietary iPad system, what is stopping you from sticking the laptop to the low ceiling above your head?   If opened up, the total exposed area would have enough velcro real estate to support the weight of the darn thing without it falling on your head when the ship plows thru those 30 footers.   As insurance against falling, if you are able to get two _thin_ fabric straps wrapped around the overhead rack, they can be positioned to provide insurance or even add support for the laptop.  These must be a thin strap for reason mentioned later.  Now imagine the laptop already velcroed to the ceiling.  One thin strap is across the main body of the laptop just under the hinge and above the keyboard.  This supports the top end of the heavy section of the laptop.   The other strap lies across the bottom area of the laptop probably over the area with the trackpad on it.     The reason why they must be straps is that if the laptop ever falls down around one of the straps, the weight will presumably cause the clamshell to close somewhat.  If you had used a wire or rope, the thickness would cause the lid to crack because there is not much clearance when the clamshell begins to close up.   To prevent the straps from becoming separated to the point where they don't support or give insurance, you will have two wooded furring strips or think dowling.  One piece of wood on each side of the laptop and each end of the piece of wood is fastened to one of the two straps.   That way, the straps cannot move either closer or farther apart.   Also, if the laptop decides to slide sideways, the wooden piece will stop it from moving to the side.  The wood can be fastened to the straps by drilling a hole through it and the strap and then threading string through the holes to tie it to the strap without causing the strap to bunch up too much.  That's why you drill or poke a hole in the strap and tie the string around that small cross-section of strap instead of the whole strap.

Another advantage of straps is that they cause no damage to government property and thus it meets rules requirement 510.21 but I am not sure what the Chief in your area would say if he saw the few inches of strap.  Perhaps you can spray paint it white; spray paint is thin so it should not crack when flexed some.  Brushed on types of paint are too thick so they may crack off.

SUGGESTION #2:
If you have a power outlet at the berth, and if the straps are allowed by the Chief, then consider three straps.   These straps would be fastened to a thin rectangular piece of plywood about one foot by two-and-a-half feet.  The wider part of the plywood brings  that edge of the wooden piece closer to the sides of the berth so that there will be less downward droop due to the weight pulling downwards on the strap.  Make the plywood as close to the edges of the berth as reasonable, but the other width doesn't need to be much more than a foot.     Now, buy a nice LED backlit LCD monitor.  The LED backlit ones are thinner than the older style mercury lamp ones and will maintain a better whiteness level as the monitor gets older.   You will also buy one of the thin low profile VESA wall-mounts for the LCD monitor.  VESA refers to the standard that defines where the mounting holes are on the back of the monitor.  You will mount the monitor to the plywood rectangle.   You may have to buy a "right angle" power plug for the monitor unless it is one of those that doesn't have the plug come out of the back of the monitor perpendicular to the screen.   My own 1920 x 1080 LCD monitor has the plug go downwards so it is conveniet to mount close to a wall.  If you do this, you will probably want to do it right because if you are the first person on the ship, the XO might take a tour to your berth just to see what this sailor is up to since the gossip vine will prolly exaggerate your monitor setup.  Only you know how big the swells are and that will dictate the size of monitor you dare to have.   Of course, if this is deemed a hazard, you will not be able to do it.   However, this is BAKAbt so we want to have the best and most extravagant practical and do-able ideas outside of the Box.

SUGGESTION #3:
If you are allowed to drill holes in the rack to mount something, much of the above rigmarole is unnecessary.  But I suppose the officers do not allow ANYTHING to be modified.  I don't know what all the naval regulations are with regards to berthing.

CONS:
Laptops want external power so if you don't have an outlet in reach of your bunk, that sucks.  Laptop batteries are too expensive to churn through.    Velcro should not cover hot spots on the bottom of the laptop.   If the straps idea works well enough for you, you might even not velcro the bottom of the laptop which would cause it to have an airgap thus helping cool the bottom of the laptop.  The velcro on the lid would stop the laptop from sliding backwards, or you can add a stop to the bottom strap.   Sometimes, an idea that would otherwise be allowable for a single person to have might be disallowed by the officers simply because everyone else will do the same thing if they allow that one person to do it.

Okay, I've typed enough. 

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 04:40:50 AM »
I am waiting on the Samsung Galaxy Tablet 7.7. Can't wait.
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 07:26:56 AM »
So far, the only tablets that have been proven to be able to play unconverted anime fansubs have been the Archos gen8 and gen9.  I've asked one user and he replied that it was able to play the 1080p anime videos at the imouto.net dxva tutorial. Not sure if he's tried the 10bit. But just the 1080p would be reassuring enough.

I strongly recommend you look into those. I'm waiting for the 101 inch models myself to replace my gen8.

If there's another tablet that can play this (This is what he tried on the Gen9)

http://www.filesonic.com/file/11998573/Lia_-_Tori_no_Uta_long_version.mkv

Please let me know.
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2011, 11:07:36 AM »
i`m having this itchy feeling that the OP is a one post wonder ::)

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 01:08:44 PM »
Hopefully, the OP will return to make some comments.  Otherwise all our typing feels as wasteful as talking to a stone wall.

Another alternative to preserving use of a laptop while still keeping a larger-than-tablet display is a portable LCD monitor screen powered by a single USB connection.   Their press release shows it is due for release next month.  An article on the AOC 16-inch monitor powered by USB is at:  http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2111021/aoc-announces-usb-powered-monitor

It certainly is lightweight enough to be velcro'ed but can also be used as an extra monitor on a tabletop if people in a breakroom choose to sit and watch in different positions with one group watching the AOC and the other watching the laptop's screen.  It's got to be better than watching on a smaller tablet screen anyways.

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 02:19:02 PM »
^ if its wattage is 10Watts or under then +1, wondering what type of signal connection does it have, or does it get it's own signal from the usb?

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 07:48:09 PM »
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Aimed primarily at laptop users, the e1649fwu monitor only needs one USB port to draw power and video.

It seems to get both power and video from one USB cable.  That makes a PC able to place a monitor up to 30 feet away with one of those specialty extension USB cables (5 feet + 25 feet).  You'd probably have to use a powered hub from a brand that allows more than 500 mA draw before triggering the overcurrent signal since the signal extender uses some current of its own.  Usually, the laptops are pretty accurate with that.  Thankfully, my Dell laptop allows quite a bit more than 500 mA before signalling overcurrent for that USB port.

It weighs 2.3 pounds and has a thickness of 1.4 inches.  Velcro would hold it up just fine.


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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 09:36:16 PM »
I see the new Archos 101 G9 just came out http://store.archos.com/archos-p-5017.html but I don't know how well it plays the files I'm looking for, it says w/ the plugin it supports MKV which is great. I might try it out. If not I'll just go with kita's suggestion. Jinai, your suggestions were good but unfortunately we're not really allowed to alter the rack or anything like that - are you in the Navy as well? Thanks again guys. I'll post again once I decide or if you guys have any other input.

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2011, 09:31:10 AM »
MKV's play with or without the plugin... mostly anyways. The plugin is the AC3 codec. Check your anime and see what audio codecs they're using, it shouldn't affect you too much for anime watching. AC3 is usually the standard for DVD rips, Anime MKV's usually use AAC.

Not quite sure what the extension listing on the site was about, but the people in the archosfans forum are watching MKV's. G9 plugins haven't been released yet so it's likely that none of them have it. The only videos they have trouble with are the ones with AC3 audio tracks.

Best way to test it tho is to find a bakabt members that have Gen9s and see what they think.

A bit  of a warning tho. Archos has the best features software wise, but they're notorious in the hardware department. I strongly suggest waiting for user comments and see how the next batch of tablets turn out. The recenty released A80's had a defect. The spring that i suppose is meant to hold the 3G module in place is pushing down on the screen and users were clipping it off to relieve the pressure on the LCDs. They supposedly fixed it in the next batch.




That said, personally i'm getting an Asus Transformer in a couple of days, it's inferior for what i need, but there's not much choice. They're apparently focusing on supplying shipments to the US this time, and i don't think we'll be seeing it in asia for a while yet. It'll be half a year before we get the 1.5Ghz G9's over here :'(
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 03:21:15 AM »
Because I figured you were not able to alter the rack by drilling even one hole, that is why I suggested the strap method.  That method involves no drilling nor even using adhesives to the rack.  The only problem is being able to have the straps go down both sides of the rack.  If one rack is firmly and continuously mounted against the bulkhead wall, then you will not be able to fish a strap down that side. 

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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 02:23:06 AM »
Transformer Prime's going to be launched in two weeks, might be worth a look.

BTW, according to the tablet guys, anime encoders are just a bunch of lazy kids and 2mb should be enough. Last i checked every non anime video i've downloaded is 5mb ::)
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2011, 02:49:03 AM »
I was going to suggest the ipad 2, but I tried it out and was not pleased with the results..... all the players on the app store that promised mkv playback (cinexplayer, buzzplayer, air video etc. ) but the ipad 2 sucks as a media player... the battery time is good but it get's choppy when playing the files (at least for me)... unless you want to buy just to jailbreak it and use xbmc to play the mkv files, as I've heard some good things about this app.

I'd suggest you wait for a new android tab, maybe the new samsung galaxy tab? These have no problems with playing mkv I think. The reason why I think so is because the samsung galaxy sII my brother has can play them without any problems, but I don't have the tab so I can't verify the reliability of those....
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2011, 03:21:34 AM »
Uhh... you guys correct me if I'm wrong, but your tables are all 1Ghz tables possibly with 2 cores. 720/1080? I highly doubt a wonderful tablet viewing experience.

IIRC, Acer has the windows tablet. I believe you can pick up one of the i5 (or something) ones for about $1400. Highly overpriced of course, but it would be capable of what OP requested. IF windows 8 is supposed to be as great as it is touted to be, it would be a good upgrade for that same tablet in the future.
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2012, 06:11:44 PM »
Hi!

I have a Zenithink ZT-280 C91 - bought it for around 200$ - for now it has played perfectly everything I've tried (some AMVs from youtube, Ergo Proxy from the torrents, Motto To Love Ru from the torrents - and I'm really happy with it  ;D) - it doesn't lag (unless shitty android.process.med ia starts up - which eats your CPU like crazy - in which case I just kill android.process.med ia or try freezing it or disable it from the terminal emulator). I used MoboPlayer until I tried playing Motto To Love Ru, Mobo Player apparently didn't support the subtitles in this one so I did a little research and found MX Video Player - this player played even the subtitles - what's more MoboPlayer can play the subtitles if I extract them from the mkv (there's even a app on android that can extract them - mkv SubExtract or sth like this)...
So what I'd say is that tablets are nice! I've been reading manga on my tablet, listening to music , been watching animes, browsing the web etc. (btw, the wireless's not so nice - but I have a RJ45 slot on my tablet - so I can connect it through a cable). What's more, recently there have been a lot of tablets coming out - even nice cheap ones - for example my C91 runs Android 4.0 Ice-Cream Sandwich, has 10'' capactive screen with a resolution of 1024x600, a Cortex A9 1Ghz CPU (actually it's 800Mhz - maybe if I overclock it it will go up to 1Ghz), 512RAM, 8GB memory (but I use a usb flash which has 16GB and my SD card has 8GB)... Another great tablet I think of buying (though it's a 7'' - I like tablets with at least 9'' screen) is the Ainol Novo 7 Elf - I think it was around 160$ - and had a Cortex A10 1.5Ghz CPU, 1Gb Ram (in specs it obviously outmatches my C91), also runs ICS - so I'd say there are quite a few cheap tablets that can perform really well... By the way if you want to watch your movies(animes) from an external HDD - most tablets can't provide enough energy to an external HDD - so your HDD should have the option to be plugged in a socket - on the other hand, if you use a usb flash drive like me (mine is 16GB) you can watch everything without needing anything else than your tablet and the usb flash drive (by the way you could have around this much space = SD card space(up to 32GB for most tablets)+usb flash drive space(don't know what's the maximum the tablet can handle, but considering that it can read a HDD then I'd guess more than 1TB lol)+internal NAND storage (some space will go for android but you should have left "internal space-1Gb")).

P.S. By the way some tablets have a HDMI switch (like mine) - so obviously you can plug an LCD screen in your tablet (though I think that'd be only helpful for smaller tablets or using your tbalet like a dvd player).
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 09:43:33 PM »
I have an Asus Transformer Prime and it can play back HD videos just fine with MX Player. I haven't tried Full HD (which will likely work just as well) nor Hi10P encodes, but most anime should work fine. I would wait for the Transformer 700 though. My model has WiFi problems, and a smaller screen. The TF700 will have a 1920x1200 Screen instead of the 1280x800 Screen like mine.

[edit] Hi10P requires software decoding, which is slow, at least with the free version.

[edit2] Also that was a 720p encode. A 480 may be a bit faster.

[edit3] 1080p works with normal 8b encodes. So yeah, with MX Player, you can watch anime videos without transcoding so long as it isn't 10b encoded.
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Re: A good Tablet for watching unconverted anime (.mkv,.avi, 720/1080)?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 02:33:06 AM »
To start off, this is my first forum post in the 4 years I've been a member of BT ^_^

Anyway, I'm in the Navy and on the ship we have pretty limited space, my rack is like a box with a curtain making even watching anime on my laptop a pain in the ass. A lot of guys now get tablets to watch movies and Velcro to the top of their rack. Makes things pretty simple and easy to put away.

I was curious if anyone knew a good tablet that I would be able to watch my anime from my external HD or move it over to the tablet without having to go through the hassle of conversion and the like while still maintaining decent framerate/audio/and subtitles in place. The majority of my anime is in .mkv now but I have lots of .avi and the like. I've searched google and forums but unfortunately I couldn't really find a straight answer - though there may not be one.

If anyone has some constructive input I'd appreciate it. Thanks again guys.
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