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hivemind1:
Anyone buying the new Guilty Crown Lost Christmas game?

Tatsujin:
Carrying an argument to the correct thread.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

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Weasel out what responsibility?


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---You bring up Guilty Crown, Havoc asks you why you would want it to be like Guilty Crown when he thinks it sucks. You go into a long post as to why it does not suck.

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That's between me and Havoc and it already ended. You, on the other hand, after a long period of time, decide to respond back to an old post. On top of that, you don't want to let it go. You wanna argue that Guilty Crown is:


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 20, 2012, 11:07:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 25, 2012, 08:35:41 PM ---Don't argue about Guilty Crown just because you expected it to be something which turned out to be way different.

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Something like what? Good?

Talk about so much wasted good animation.

Well, no, I'm being a bit obnoxious. It wasn't terrible, just not nearly as good as it could have been.

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It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.




--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---Havoc for putting his train on those rail, and then your next post(s) for carrying on with it? I don't think post age matters in this case.

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And we carried it out back in May, now we're in August and you're coming out of no where to quote me and argue about it in the wrong thread? It's already over and done with.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

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That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

xShadow:

--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 21, 2012, 04:38:30 AM ---

--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

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Weasel out what responsibility?
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Nevermind~

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--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---You bring up Guilty Crown, Havoc asks you why you would want it to be like Guilty Crown when he thinks it sucks. You go into a long post as to why it does not suck.

--- End quote ---
That's between me and Havoc and it already ended. You, on the other hand, after a long period of time, decide to respond back to an old post. On top of that, you don't want to let it go. You wanna argue that Guilty Crown is:

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The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.


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--- Quote from: xShadow on August 20, 2012, 11:07:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 25, 2012, 08:35:41 PM ---Don't argue about Guilty Crown just because you expected it to be something which turned out to be way different.

--- End quote ---

Something like what? Good?

Talk about so much wasted good animation.

Well, no, I'm being a bit obnoxious. It wasn't terrible, just not nearly as good as it could have been.

--- End quote ---
It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

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And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.


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--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---Havoc for putting his train on those rail, and then your next post(s) for carrying on with it? I don't think post age matters in this case.

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And we carried it out back in May, now we're in August and you're coming out of no where to quote me and argue about it in the wrong thread? It's already over and done with.

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Time doesn't matter.


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--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

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That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

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I don't really want to argue with you because you have no argument outside of your personal opinion of the series and your claim that "everyone else just doesn't get it." This is obviously supported with various types of information that us lower beings cannot understand, apparently. We just don't have enough IQ to comprehend the complex character and plot developments in this engrossing work of art. There's no way that we could have other reasons for not liking it. That's impossible.

Rather, there's no argument to be had outside of our little quibble regarding whether my post in that thread is reportable or not. The only thing that's left is two people that won't agree with each other.

Tatsujin:

--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 05:55:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 21, 2012, 04:38:30 AM ---

--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

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Weasel out what responsibility?
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Nevermind~

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Right.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.

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Your 2 cents is the argument.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 20, 2012, 11:07:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 25, 2012, 08:35:41 PM ---It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

--- End quote ---
And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.

--- End quote ---
In general, it's not just an opinion. Keep reading below.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---Time doesn't matter.

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It does matter. Reason? It's off-topic and it's old. If it was on-topic, it would be legitimate.


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--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

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That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

--- End quote ---
I don't really want to argue with you because you have no argument outside of your personal opinion of the series and your claim that "everyone else just doesn't get it." This is obviously supported with various types of information that us lower beings cannot understand, apparently. We just don't have enough IQ to comprehend the complex character and plot developments in this engrossing work of art. There's no way that we could have other reasons for not liking it. That's impossible.

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If your going to justify yourself and others who are similar to yourself as "lower beings", then that's on you. That's how you see it. That's not how I see it or I have ever viewed it. The anime itself - quoting off of Dictionary.com - Guilty (having committed an offense, crime, violation, or wrong, especially against moral or penal law; justly subject to a certain accusation or penalty) Crown (the power or dominion of a sovereign), the title itself makes sense and it's obvious it's not for the weak heart nor those whom are seeking your-similar-type-anime ... The first few episodes people compared it to Code Geass, after a while was it really comparable to Code Geass? No, nothing between the two gives a major (note: MAJOR) connection. Can you imagine if Guilty Crown turned out to be the way you wanted it to be ... say, Shu is pretty fucking bad ass and owns everything? That's stupid. There was sense put in the title itself. Not to mention the opening lyrics and ending lyrics are not just some words, they're actually the feelings of Inori and how she's going to hold up for Shu and it relates perfectly with the title and how the series unfolds. Makes sense? ... Of course it does. If it doesn't then you simply are arrogant. The series is right there, with the words, the characters, the story and everything else in the box and outside of it.

When I got to the middle of the series, I knew shit was going to flop after the death of Guy. After few more episodes, it made sense of what the lyrics, Inori and Shu's feelings, and how the situation is moving very awkwardly from how we (including myself) wanted it to be .. it all fell under the title which is Guilty Crown. Not to mention how Shu's reaction was to having so much power and abusing it, then regretting it and then picking himself back up. Let's just not forget he's a teenager for fuck sakes. Critical thinking is important. Yes?

-goes back to LightRoom-

xShadow:

--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 21, 2012, 06:44:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 05:55:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on August 21, 2012, 04:38:30 AM ---

--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

--- End quote ---
Weasel out what responsibility?
--- End quote ---

Nevermind~

--- End quote ---
Right.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.

--- End quote ---
Your 2 cents is the argument.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 20, 2012, 11:07:34 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on May 25, 2012, 08:35:41 PM ---It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

--- End quote ---
And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.

--- End quote ---
In general, it's not just an opinion. Keep reading below.


--- Quote from: xShadow on August 21, 2012, 04:10:35 AM ---Time doesn't matter.

--- End quote ---
It does matter. Reason? It's off-topic and it's old. If it was on-topic, it would be legitimate.

--- End quote ---

Honestly I don't even care anymore. It's a pretty petty thing to argue about.

--- Quote ---If your going to justify yourself and others who are similar to yourself as "lower beings", then that's on you. That's how you see it. That's not how I see it or I have ever viewed it.
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I guess my mild sarcasm and teasing didn't get through to this one.

--- Quote ---The anime itself - quoting off of Dictionary.com - Guilty (having committed an offense, crime, violation, or wrong, especially against moral or penal law; justly subject to a certain accusation or penalty) Crown (the power or dominion of a sovereign), the title itself makes sense and it's obvious it's not for the weak heart nor those whom are seeking your-similar-type-anime ... The first few episodes people compared it to Code Geass, after a while was it really comparable to Code Geass? No, nothing between the two gives a major (note: MAJOR) connection. Can you imagine if Guilty Crown turned out to be the way you wanted it to be ... say, Shu is pretty fucking bad ass and owns everything? That's stupid. There was sense put in the title itself. Not to mention the opening lyrics and ending lyrics are not just some words, they're actually the feelings of Inori and how she's going to hold up for Shu and it relates perfectly with the title and how the series unfolds. Makes sense? ... Of course it does. If it doesn't then you simply are arrogant. The series is right there, with the words, the characters, the story and everything else in the box and outside of it.

When I got to the middle of the series, I knew shit was going to flop after the death of Guy. After few more episodes, it made sense of what the lyrics, Inori and Shu's feelings, and how the situation is moving very awkwardly from how we (including myself) wanted it to be .. it all fell under the title which is Guilty Crown. Not to mention how Shu's reaction was to having so much power and abusing it, then regretting it and then picking himself back up. Let's just not forget he's a teenager for fuck sakes. Critical thinking is important. Yes?

-goes back to LightRoom-

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1. That's your interpretation of the point.
2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.
3. It's become blatantly obvious you never read the exchange between me and Havoc. At the very least, read the first post I linked you to, because you're bringing up things I could give less of a crap about. It's pretty concise and to the point.

I'm playing Majikoi S right now, which is a heck of a lot more fun than this. Can we just agree to disagree and move on, or is this going to keep going...? I don't even wanna respond anymore because I got over this show a long time ago, and happen to not care nearly as much as you...

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