Guilty Crown [Series]

[hivemind1]

Anyone buying the new Guilty Crown Lost Christmas game?

[Tatsujin]

Carrying an argument to the correct thread.

I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

Weasel out what responsibility?

You bring up Guilty Crown, Havoc asks you why you would want it to be like Guilty Crown when he thinks it sucks. You go into a long post as to why it does not suck.

That's between me and Havoc and it already ended. You, on the other hand, after a long period of time, decide to respond back to an old post. On top of that, you don't want to let it go. You wanna argue that Guilty Crown is:

Don't argue about Guilty Crown just because you expected it to be something which turned out to be way different.

Something like what? Good?

Talk about so much wasted good animation.

Well, no, I'm being a bit obnoxious. It wasn't terrible, just not nearly as good as it could have been.

It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

Havoc for putting his train on those rail, and then your next post(s) for carrying on with it? I don't think post age matters in this case.

And we carried it out back in May, now we're in August and you're coming out of no where to quote me and argue about it in the wrong thread? It's already over and done with.

What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

[xShadow]

I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

Weasel out what responsibility?

Nevermind~

You bring up Guilty Crown, Havoc asks you why you would want it to be like Guilty Crown when he thinks it sucks. You go into a long post as to why it does not suck.

That's between me and Havoc and it already ended. You, on the other hand, after a long period of time, decide to respond back to an old post. On top of that, you don't want to let it go. You wanna argue that Guilty Crown is:

The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.

Don't argue about Guilty Crown just because you expected it to be something which turned out to be way different.

Something like what? Good?

Talk about so much wasted good animation.

Well, no, I'm being a bit obnoxious. It wasn't terrible, just not nearly as good as it could have been.

It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.

Havoc for putting his train on those rail, and then your next post(s) for carrying on with it? I don't think post age matters in this case.

And we carried it out back in May, now we're in August and you're coming out of no where to quote me and argue about it in the wrong thread? It's already over and done with.

Time doesn't matter.

What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

I don't really want to argue with you because you have no argument outside of your personal opinion of the series and your claim that "everyone else just doesn't get it." This is obviously supported with various types of information that us lower beings cannot understand, apparently. We just don't have enough IQ to comprehend the complex character and plot developments in this engrossing work of art. There's no way that we could have other reasons for not liking it. That's impossible.

Rather, there's no argument to be had outside of our little quibble regarding whether my post in that thread is reportable or not. The only thing that's left is two people that won't agree with each other.

[Tatsujin]

I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

Weasel out what responsibility?

Nevermind~

Right.

The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.

Your 2 cents is the argument.

It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.

In general, it's not just an opinion. Keep reading below.

Time doesn't matter.

It does matter. Reason? It's off-topic and it's old. If it was on-topic, it would be legitimate.

What's hilarious is that you keep linking to that thread without in fact ever reading what my opinion in it was. You agreed with what I said in that same thread. Just probably not my negatives in my first post in that thread. Hell, I was arguing with Havoc in the same thread.

That's a given and I remember you posting there and I remember not reading all of your posts nor Havoc's posts.

Are you done? Or do you want to keep going? I have all night while working on Adobe PhotoShop and LightRoom.

I don't really want to argue with you because you have no argument outside of your personal opinion of the series and your claim that "everyone else just doesn't get it." This is obviously supported with various types of information that us lower beings cannot understand, apparently. We just don't have enough IQ to comprehend the complex character and plot developments in this engrossing work of art. There's no way that we could have other reasons for not liking it. That's impossible.

If your going to justify yourself and others who are similar to yourself as "lower beings", then that's on you. That's how you see it. That's not how I see it or I have ever viewed it. The anime itself - quoting off of Dictionary.com - Guilty (having committed an offense, crime, violation, or wrong, especially against moral or penal law; justly subject to a certain accusation or penalty) Crown (the power or dominion of a sovereign), the title itself makes sense and it's obvious it's not for the weak heart nor those whom are seeking your-similar-type-anime ... The first few episodes people compared it to Code Geass, after a while was it really comparable to Code Geass? No, nothing between the two gives a major (note: MAJOR) connection. Can you imagine if Guilty Crown turned out to be the way you wanted it to be ... say, Shu is pretty fucking bad ass and owns everything? That's stupid. There was sense put in the title itself. Not to mention the opening lyrics and ending lyrics are not just some words, they're actually the feelings of Inori and how she's going to hold up for Shu and it relates perfectly with the title and how the series unfolds. Makes sense? ... Of course it does. If it doesn't then you simply are arrogant. The series is right there, with the words, the characters, the story and everything else in the box and outside of it.

When I got to the middle of the series, I knew shit was going to flop after the death of Guy. After few more episodes, it made sense of what the lyrics, Inori and Shu's feelings, and how the situation is moving very awkwardly from how we (including myself) wanted it to be .. it all fell under the title which is Guilty Crown. Not to mention how Shu's reaction was to having so much power and abusing it, then regretting it and then picking himself back up. Let's just not forget he's a teenager for fuck sakes. Critical thinking is important. Yes?

-goes back to LightRoom-

[xShadow]

I love how you keep trying to weasel out of responsibility for this.

Weasel out what responsibility?

Nevermind~

Right.

The age of the post doesn't matter. By all intents the information is still there. You posted ages ago. You bump the topic. I give my 2 cents on something I saw brought up. You then took up the argument.

Your 2 cents is the argument.

It turned out to be better than what I expected. I'm not even talking about personal feelings - but subjectively and in general - the series was different and it was good. Are you taking a step back and scaling the anime from a general point of view? It was rushed, it did need a second season, it needed better structure in the middle and towards the end, but they did the series just about right. It didn't turn out to be like any other series out there. Also, the animation wasn't wasted.

And that's your opinion. Okay, that's nice.

In general, it's not just an opinion. Keep reading below.

Time doesn't matter.

It does matter. Reason? It's off-topic and it's old. If it was on-topic, it would be legitimate.

Honestly I don't even care anymore. It's a pretty petty thing to argue about.

If your going to justify yourself and others who are similar to yourself as "lower beings", then that's on you. That's how you see it. That's not how I see it or I have ever viewed it.

I guess my mild sarcasm and teasing didn't get through to this one.

The anime itself - quoting off of Dictionary.com - Guilty (having committed an offense, crime, violation, or wrong, especially against moral or penal law; justly subject to a certain accusation or penalty) Crown (the power or dominion of a sovereign), the title itself makes sense and it's obvious it's not for the weak heart nor those whom are seeking your-similar-type-anime ... The first few episodes people compared it to Code Geass, after a while was it really comparable to Code Geass? No, nothing between the two gives a major (note: MAJOR) connection. Can you imagine if Guilty Crown turned out to be the way you wanted it to be ... say, Shu is pretty fucking bad ass and owns everything? That's stupid. There was sense put in the title itself. Not to mention the opening lyrics and ending lyrics are not just some words, they're actually the feelings of Inori and how she's going to hold up for Shu and it relates perfectly with the title and how the series unfolds. Makes sense? ... Of course it does. If it doesn't then you simply are arrogant. The series is right there, with the words, the characters, the story and everything else in the box and outside of it.

When I got to the middle of the series, I knew shit was going to flop after the death of Guy. After few more episodes, it made sense of what the lyrics, Inori and Shu's feelings, and how the situation is moving very awkwardly from how we (including myself) wanted it to be .. it all fell under the title which is Guilty Crown. Not to mention how Shu's reaction was to having so much power and abusing it, then regretting it and then picking himself back up. Let's just not forget he's a teenager for fuck sakes. Critical thinking is important. Yes?

-goes back to LightRoom-

1. That's your interpretation of the point.
2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.
3. It's become blatantly obvious you never read the exchange between me and Havoc. At the very least, read the first post I linked you to, because you're bringing up things I could give less of a crap about. It's pretty concise and to the point.

I'm playing Majikoi S right now, which is a heck of a lot more fun than this. Can we just agree to disagree and move on, or is this going to keep going...? I don't even wanna respond anymore because I got over this show a long time ago, and happen to not care nearly as much as you...

[Tatsujin]

2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.

You're tiring me out. Re-read what I said, it's not just about the title but rather everything that has happened first then going back to the title and the lyrics.

I'm also tired of arguing. I'm gonna go back and learn this LightRoom program.

[CappinHoff]

2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.

You're tiring me out. Re-read what I said, it's not just about the title but rather everything that has happened first then going back to the title and the lyrics.

I'm also tired of arguing. I'm gonna go back and learn this LightRoom program.

It's hard to argue with people that are wrong from the start of their argument. I declare you champion.

[Tatsujin]

2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.

You're tiring me out. Re-read what I said, it's not just about the title but rather everything that has happened first then going back to the title and the lyrics.

I'm also tired of arguing. I'm gonna go back and learn this LightRoom program.

It's hard to argue with people that are wrong from the start of their argument. I declare you champion.

No thanks. It's not about winning.

[Nodame-chan]

I don't mean to get into your debate or force my opinion, but I just have to add one thing.

Don't argue about Guilty Crown just because you expected it to be something which turned out to be way different.

Something like what? Good?

Talk about so much wasted good animation.

Well, no, I'm being a bit obnoxious. It wasn't terrible, just not nearly as good as it could have been.

GC certainly has one of best animations I've seen so far. I agree with Havoc on the part that it has no plot. It was just too rushed, and had many bugs I couldn't agree with. They certainly could make it so much better. Though they might correct all of those mistakes if they make a second season.

However, I admit that this anime had absolutely the best animation possible, the best OSTs possible, the best seiyuu possible. I give credit to that. And just for those reasons it's WORTH watching. Even just for the sake of Supercell and Nakamura Yuuichi it must be watched.

[CappinHoff]

2. Just because it goes with its title doesn't mean that it's automatically good.

You're tiring me out. Re-read what I said, it's not just about the title but rather everything that has happened first then going back to the title and the lyrics.

I'm also tired of arguing. I'm gonna go back and learn this LightRoom program.

It's hard to argue with people that are wrong from the start of their argument. I declare you champion.

No thanks. It's not about winning.

It was to stop the needless arguing over someones opinion.

[nashua]

It was to stop the needless arguing over someones opinion.

This comes to mind

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But yeah, guilty crown is definitely worth watching. I raise your two cents with my tupence!

[1000mAh]

^ nice pic, saves~ (gonan copy ya sometime   ....in the far far away future)

OT:  Qulty Crown is totly worth watching.

[Nikkoru]

I watched it last week.

It's.... fine.

[Tatsujin]

Watched it again, this time in blu-ray. I understood more about the story and I do like this series even more. I, like the others, do feel it was rushed and somehow you are the "owner of the missing pieces and so fill in the blank" is what I felt. There's a lot of room to grow even after the series has ended but who knows, they may not continue this at all.

Thou' ... I won't give up dreaming on a sequel! Or a spin-off to show Inori's past and how Gai found her.

Ah .. Inori is still a favorite. Going to update the main picture for the first post soon.

[CappinHoff]

Watched it again, this time in blu-ray. I understood more about the story and I do like this series even more. I, like the others, do feel it was rushed and somehow you are the "owner of the missing pieces and so fill in the blank" is what I felt. There's a lot of room to grow even after the series has ended but who knows, they may not continue this at all.

Thou' ... I won't give up dreaming on a sequel! Or a spin-off to show Inori's past and how Gai found her.

Ah .. Inori is still a favorite. Going to update the main picture for the first post soon.

It's still a series that leaves me with a bittersweet feeling after I watch it. Still enjoyed it even after 4 viewings.

[Nikkoru]

It had a number of missed opportunities, trying to stretch in a number of different directions without satisfying any of them quite well enough. The feeling of this is palpable, makes me all fidgety thinking of what they could have done had they been more focused on any one aspect of the show.

It is still, regardless, beautiful to look at. The art direction certainly didn't fail.

[Tatsujin]

Fan of Egoist?

Egoist - All Alone With You. It's the full video. You can get a translated video on TT (720p is good enough, the 1080p is garbage). redjuice drew the main picture of the album. Inori's character was also cloned over to this one (made my heart thumb hard!) - sad ending in the video ...

Purchased the Album along with other Japanese goods. I thought it would be compacted, rather - it was a really good purchase! It's larger and has the quality I desire. Check the video.

[Mistgun_Zero]

Fan of Egoist?

Egoist - All Alone With You. It's the full video. You can get a translated video on TT (720p is good enough, the 1080p is garbage). redjuice drew the main picture of the album. Inori's character was also cloned over to this one (made my heart thumb hard!) - sad ending in the video ...

Is it subbed? I have one which isn't subbed. Or perhaps a srt file if you can.

[Tatsujin]

Fan of Egoist?

Egoist - All Alone With You. It's the full video. You can get a translated video on TT (720p is good enough, the 1080p is garbage). redjuice drew the main picture of the album. Inori's character was also cloned over to this one (made my heart thumb hard!) - sad ending in the video ...

Is it subbed? I have one which isn't subbed. Or perhaps a srt file if you can.

It is. I got the subbed version on TT.

Edit -- The lyrics and animation gives it a strong vibe and relation to Inori's feelings.

[D4oS]

Inori is like Rei upgraded with awesome singing. I've fallen for her.

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that's why I despise Shu even more, because she sacrificed herself for him

Shu on the other hand was dynamic, at first typical anime boy, sometimes pussy, somwhere in the series he started to look down on others and overestimate his worth, that made me really hate him.

And about series turning out different than expected, that is true, it has wonderful graphics, and the beginning was really promising, but what I hoped for was to make it more about people other than this kid, who didn't have balls nor skills to save the world. Also, series was even annoying at times. Though it wasn't all that bad, I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Nevertheless I've downloaded BD version and intend to watch it again, for Inori.