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Guilty Crown [Series]
Ashall:
It's from the director of Death Note, so I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of plot twists. I guess it's some what similar to Code Geass but I wouldn't go as far as some of the people here do. Terrorists fighting foreign occupation, a guy who randomly gets a super power and mecha are the similarities I noticed without putting much thought into it. It borrows from a lot of others as well.
I didn't really think Code Geass had that many plot twists actually.. Except for the end I guess. Most of it I kinda predicted beforehand. Like the various events involving Shirley and Rolo (individually and exclusively). I guess what got me most of the time were the traps involving the environment. Guilty Crown has had a couple of twists so far but they're much to cliche to be impressive.
But the biggest difference, to me at least, is that Lelouch is more fit for a lead role than Shu seems to be. Shu kinda gets on my nerves, but I guess that leaves more character development for him. I guess the skittish turned hero never gets old.. I don't think even a single character is at all unique so far.
Guilty Crown reminds me most of Eden of the East and Code Geass in one major way. The whole nationalist swagger the show envelopes. Japan is the victim of the world like always. So terrorism will solve all our problems yay!
And only in anime would the government and a terrorist cell let this guy run free willy-nilly. I laughed at the fact that the undertakers/Funeral Parlor (both translations I've seen) let Shu walk off after he stole their genetic weapon and the fact he just wiped out all those GHQ soldiers five minutes before, yet he walks away from an extended hand offering him a new life.. I think your kinda stuck with them after that, but Shu has other intentions like school yay!
Why do I always sound like I'm bad mouthing this? I guess I'm still thinking to hard about this show.
newy:
Plot twists depend on the script writer, not the director.
Ashall:
--- Quote from: newy on October 29, 2011, 03:19:10 PM ---Plot twists depend on the script writer, not the director.
--- End quote ---
Since this is an original work, the director might have more say with this anime and considering their experience with the plot twist filled Death Note, they might be inclined to throw some in. But what does a Theatre Arts minor know, ne?
AnimeJanai:
All the talk seems to be like those "attack fads" or "praise fads" that appear from time to time. There was a praise fad for Heartcatch PreCure cleverly started on 4chan and it sprung up like wildfire and spread. There was that attack fad in the early days of GitS but that was overturned fairly quickly. But it was amusing to see people parroting it out of feeling smart for following that fad.
A lot of people on 4chan who post about how predictable the plot is are misusing the word. What they actually mean is that they have seen parts of GC in other shows. For example, the beautiful girl is hurt, there is a robot, bombs explode, blood appears, etcetera.
Now, let's have a unique anime show. Remove all blood, all fire, all water, all people, all cars, all robots, all ground, all air, all metal, all electricity, all guns, etcetera because they are all predictable and things we've seen over and over and over and over again.
Anyways, familiarity of similar items does NOT equal predictable even though a ton of 4channers misuse the term that way. If you look at Guilty Crown for discrete events, then you might analyze the show in terms of being a sequence of events A, B, C....Z...AA, BB...ZZ, etcetera. Discrete event A was reminiscent from CCS, B was from macross frontier, C was from Bubblegum Crisis, D reminded you of Code Geass, etc. I find many parts of Guilty Crown familiar, but not predictable. If you had challenged those people who said the plot was predictable, then after watching episode 1, they should have been able to outline episode 2 without watching it. I bet they can't. Their complaints about predictability only occurs AFTER they have seen it and that makes it hypocrisy. It seems more of that "I look cool and get attention for dissing a hot looking show" especially since the people who say it sucks keep on watching it.
All these people claim that the show sucks so much that it forces them to AVIDLY and EAGERLY wait for it to appear and they boldly CHEER HURRAH when the subs appear and they skip work just to download it and accept no interruptions in their life in order to INTENSELY watch the show with GREAT ENTHUSIASM before they then pronounce to the world "This episode sucks and was soooo predictable!"
Ashall:
You do have very valid points and yes there will always be matters of each person's opinion. But I wasn't aware of a fad to dislike or like an anime.. I don't think people are that shallow and mindless though. There are and will be anime that are disliked and liked no matter what a review says or their buddy says. I mean I dislike GitS and most people love it, but I don't go trolling around about it.
And yes I stated previously that an original idea is almost impossible to create in this day and age. We will always be borrowing something from the past whether we realize it or not. I said the plot of GC has been predictable so far, not because I fully watched an episode and said "oh how predictable" without any basis of argument; it's when a cliche is present you can almost tell exactly what will happen next and what you thought was going to happen, happens. That's when you say "oh how predictable". And it isn't just one cliche, GC has many. I think various people who like and dislike this show so far could easily agree that such cliches are present.
I haven't said that GC sucks, I just wanted to point out that many cliches are present and are disappointing to see. I don't see any hypocrisy in my words. I'll keep watching this not because I look cool and get attention for dissing a hot looking show, but rather I have hope it will be a good anime.
Once I start something I finish it. It's kind of chasing the dragon, although I did this with This Ugly Yet Beautiful World and found my most hated anime of all time. I was hoping the next episode would be good one after another and was disappointed over and over again. Guilty Crown is not that bad, it's just a little cliche. But a lot of series I like have had such "average" starts so I won't abandon GC.
And oh btw I'm not some otaku that lays at home all day, I've only seen about 50-60 anime series (probably a little less and over a span of three or four years). Most of which are not in the same genre as this, yet I see this as predictable.
Sorry for such a long retaliation but when you step on a snake you get bit. Xin loi <3
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