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Burkingam:
I feel old now.
gits:
--- Quote from: Burkingam on April 23, 2013, 12:25:18 PM ---I feel old now.
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How old are you? (you definitely are old perversed stalker)
Darth.Sid:
--- Quote from: gits on April 23, 2013, 12:52:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Burkingam on April 23, 2013, 12:25:18 PM ---I feel old now.
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How old are you? (you definitely are old perversed stalker)
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Do tentacle monstarz grow old?
ConsiderPhlebas:
--- Quote from: pingryanime on April 23, 2013, 12:18:56 PM ---From what I understood about American grammar, or at least how I've done it, the period goes in the quotation mark if it's part of the quote itself. Eg, James told Sarah, "You have to go back." whereas if it's a fragment that's being quoted, you place the period outside. Eg, I remember him mentioning that the new movie was "horrifying".
Not the best examples in the world but it should get my point across.
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No, I repeat myself, that is not the common American style (although usage varies slightly).
You can find various sources by googling, here is one:
(click to show/hide)In the U.S., the prevailing style is called American style, whereby commas and periods are almost always placed inside closing quotation marks. This style of punctuation is common in the U.S. and Canada, and is the style usually recommended by The Chicago Manual of Style and most other American style guides. However, many American style guides specific to certain specialties, such as legal writing and linguistics, prefer British style.
When dealing with words-as-words, short-form works and sentence fragments, this style places periods and commas inside the quotation marks:
* "Carefree," in general, means "free from care or anxiety."
* The name of the song was "Gloria," which many already knew.
* She said she felt "free from care and anxiety."This style also places periods and commas inside the quotation marks when dealing with direct speech, regardless of whether the work is fiction or non-fiction:
* "Today," said Cinderella, "I feel free from care and anxiety." (fiction)
* "Today," said the Prime Minister, "I feel free from care and anxiety." (non-fiction)Many American style guides explicitly permit periods and commas outside the quotation marks when the presence of the punctuation mark inside the quotation marks will lead to ambiguity...
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: ConsiderPhlebas on April 23, 2013, 02:52:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: pingryanime on April 23, 2013, 12:18:56 PM ---From what I understood about American grammar, or at least how I've done it, the period goes in the quotation mark if it's part of the quote itself. Eg, James told Sarah, "You have to go back." whereas if it's a fragment that's being quoted, you place the period outside. Eg, I remember him mentioning that the new movie was "horrifying".
Not the best examples in the world but it should get my point across.
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No, I repeat myself, that is not the common American style (although usage varies slightly).
You can find various sources by googling, here is one:
(click to show/hide)In the U.S., the prevailing style is called American style, whereby commas and periods are almost always placed inside closing quotation marks. This style of punctuation is common in the U.S. and Canada, and is the style usually recommended by The Chicago Manual of Style and most other American style guides. However, many American style guides specific to certain specialties, such as legal writing and linguistics, prefer British style.
When dealing with words-as-words, short-form works and sentence fragments, this style places periods and commas inside the quotation marks:
* "Carefree," in general, means "free from care or anxiety."
* The name of the song was "Gloria," which many already knew.
* She said she felt "free from care and anxiety."This style also places periods and commas inside the quotation marks when dealing with direct speech, regardless of whether the work is fiction or non-fiction:
* "Today," said Cinderella, "I feel free from care and anxiety." (fiction)
* "Today," said the Prime Minister, "I feel free from care and anxiety." (non-fiction)Many American style guides explicitly permit periods and commas outside the quotation marks when the presence of the punctuation mark inside the quotation marks will lead to ambiguity...
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The differentiation between 'American style' and 'British style' is kind of misleading, though. 'American style' is used in some forms of writing outside the US (It's the standard for works of fiction in the UK, for example, and I think the rest of the world too), and 'British style' is used for certain forms of writing in the US. I'm not sure the geographical variation is as clear cut as 'American' and 'British', either - 'American' seems to refer to a style commonly used in some parts of the US, but which is not used in some other parts. 'British style' apparently refers to the style used not only in the UK, but also in those other parts of the US, and in everywhere else in the world. So those names are a little bit confusing.
Pingry probably just lives somewhere where the 'American style' isn't the standard for most usages.
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