Who knows. I have had the exact same thought as Kuran in the past. However, I eventually just decided that I would just join the club. But even when I try my best, its hard to keep up with people like Havoc.
In the end, you just cant take this place seriously. There are some cool people, I will admit, but as a whole trying to nice and courteous and all that jazz is like like spitting in the toilet to make it a small percentage less shit.
Anyone who has been here for a while has prolly noticed I post completely different then I did when I joined.