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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 2
« Reply #7420 on: April 07, 2012, 06:41:50 PM »
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Do find one. At the very least bring me ten thousands living ancient romans over the age 60! Now I could argue with you about how natural lifespan of humans changed over last 10000 years thans to envirimoment and food along with genetical makeup...
On a serious note, what the hay is with the nitpicking last few days, focus on the message, not the attached joke. It's like...

"Dear fellow humans, our scientist have realized that in three days, enormous object will impact Earth, most likely causing our extinction. Let us reflect on our history in peace. Logging off."

Person 1: What the hell?! You can't write realised with Z!!!!!!
Person 2: No, you are stupid, it's right only with Z!
Person 3:  You can write it with both. I know it, I work in the area.
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Person 347: It's only with S you idiots.
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Person 978: Oh my god. We all die in 3 days.
Person 1: What...?
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 2
« Reply #7421 on: April 07, 2012, 06:54:39 PM »

60 - 3.5%
65 - 2.5%
70 - 2.2%

On average, 8.2% of the Roman population was over the age of 60. Which makes one in every 12 Romans. I'd say that nets us more than 10 000.

As for the recent history.

Here's a picture of an Iraqi born in 1788, the picture was taken in 1895.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 2
« Reply #7422 on: April 07, 2012, 06:59:14 PM »
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O.O
Dude, I am not kidding, I have seen that somewhere in my grandparent's ancestral photo album...

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« Reply #7423 on: April 07, 2012, 07:02:37 PM »
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O.O
Dude, I am not kidding, I have seen that somewhere in my grandparent's ancestral photo album...

Well. You either mixed up or it's about time to re-evaluate your heritage.

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« Reply #7424 on: April 07, 2012, 07:08:12 PM »
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Well. Now bring them here and make them prove their age. That's what said.

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And while you'll be bringing them, you could explain to me what does it all have to do with tardyness of teenegers and lower rate of marriages  today, because I'm still missing that part :D
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« Reply #7425 on: April 07, 2012, 07:22:33 PM »
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Well. Now bring them here and make them prove their age. That's what said.

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And while you'll be bringing them, you could explain to me what does it all have to do with tardyness of teenegers and lower rate of marriages  today, because I'm still missing that part :D

Wait what I thought we were talking about bunnies?

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« Reply #7426 on: April 07, 2012, 07:25:57 PM »
Wait what I thought we were talking about bunnies?

Nah, rabbits are different than bunnies.
Rabbits:Bunnies;Dogs:Puppies;Cats:Kittens;Roos:Joeys

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 2
« Reply #7427 on: April 07, 2012, 07:39:18 PM »


Lol yes.

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« Reply #7428 on: April 07, 2012, 07:42:18 PM »
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Well. Now bring them here and make them prove their age. That's what said.

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And while you'll be bringing them, you could explain to me what does it all have to do with tardyness of teenegers and lower rate of marriages  today, because I'm still missing that part :D
How about the opposite, give me proof that a 60 year old or for that matter a 50 year old skeleton pre the 18th century world was an unheard of miracle of archaeology.
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Which is something I never tried to answer or even questioned you about.

Hmm. Firstly, I'd disagree that you weren't expected to live together for more than a few years. Given ones life expectancy if you actually managed to get to a marritable age and given that families of those times were expected to have an amount of children numbering well north of 10. Unless twins are 10 times as common as I thought, I'd say you'd be at the very least expected to live together for a decade and at most to about two.

It'd say that current tardiness is more to due to the view of marriage rather than anything else. Your feelings on the subject of your spouse ranked somewhere between "cry some moar" and "tough shit, luv" in those times. Being single would nearly certainly mean that'd you'd starve be shunned by the community and that the holy union was more of an economical and political deal you had because you were told to more than anything else. Not to mention that just generally "I want x" mattered to the world and the ones around you about as much as that fly I swatted 15 minutes ago.

In comparison, current marriages, at the very least those without children, are binding only to the point of petty feelings. Given such a change, I'd say it's natural for marriages to become a less time consuming endeavour.

Also. I would also say that the divorce rates aren't exactly all telling either. After all, a happily married family only counts as one marriage, and a dick or a whore who remarried and redivorced 6 times count as 6. I would like too see the difference between the statistics of the chance for an individual to find a happy marriage compared to overall average divorce rates. But I'm far too tired to do that.

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« Reply #7429 on: April 07, 2012, 08:00:12 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

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« Reply #7430 on: April 07, 2012, 08:03:19 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

Fuck off, I'm having fun trying to think about something else than my research paper which has been burning my head a for a while now.

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« Reply #7431 on: April 07, 2012, 08:06:11 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

You're so nice Tyler.

Haha Saras I know the feeling, although it's exams and not a paper that's been occupying my brain for the last week :(

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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« Reply #7433 on: April 07, 2012, 08:08:47 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

Fuck off, I'm having fun trying to think about something else than my research paper which has been burning my head a for a while now.

jeez, no need to get sensitive. You DO realize what that was... right?

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 2
« Reply #7434 on: April 07, 2012, 08:10:09 PM »
Also. I would also say that the divorce rates aren't exactly all telling either. After all, a happily married family only counts as one marriage, and a dick or a whore who remarried and redivorced 6 times count as 6. I would like too see the difference between the statistics of the chance for an individual to find a happy marriage compared to overall average divorce rates. But I'm far too tired to do that.

I missed this paragraph when I read your post, it's great.

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« Reply #7435 on: April 07, 2012, 08:10:28 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

Fuck off, I'm having fun trying to think about something else than my research paper which has been burning my head a for a while now.

jeez, no need to get sensitive. You DO realize what that was... right?

Guess I'm more tired than I thought. Sorry about that.
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« Reply #7436 on: April 07, 2012, 08:11:49 PM »
WOW look at this idiot!

Fuck off, I'm having fun trying to think about something else than my research paper which has been burning my head a for a while now.

jeez, no need to get sensitive. You DO realize what that was... right?

Guess I'm more tired than I thought.

Yeah me too, I missed something. Not surprising.

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« Reply #7437 on: April 07, 2012, 08:13:29 PM »
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Hey, if I said "Bring me rainbow bunny who poops gold" would you still continue with serious answers?

Well. I have said it was usually not (expected) for more than 20 years, rarely 30. You say two decades. That's kinda... funny. But don't forget getting married at 12 +-  wasn't exactly rare.
Either way in the past it was a thing of strategy, union or conviniece and perhaps religion with little choice for the married individuals while today it is a thing of joy for most. Which is why there are divorces, and say what you will, there are times more than there used to be few decades back. Old generations tied by traditions dying out I guess.

And while some are what you said, I don't think someone who remaries several times  has to be any kind of dick or whore. Do you call anyone who had more than, say, 5 partners overly whore-ish? Those people are just shortsighted and shouldn't get married so fast at the first place. In many case it has a lot to do with being stuck beween two worlds, on one side "You have to marry the person you like to be with them, so the god wills" and othe the other "It's ok to divorce". Simplified.

Why should everyone spend life with one person anyway? To perfect mastery of boredom?
But that is all subjective as it gets and varies localy.

I'm not sure the tardyness of teenagers is caused by today's view of marriage tho. Erm.



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« Reply #7439 on: April 07, 2012, 08:38:26 PM »
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Hey, if I said "Bring me rainbow bunny who poops gold" would you still continue with serious answers?

Well. I have said it was usually not (expected) for more than 20 years, rarely 30. You say two decades. That's kinda... funny. But don't forget getting married at 12 +-  wasn't exactly rare.
Either way in the past it was a thing of strategy, union or conviniece and perhaps religion with little choice for the married individuals while today it is a thing of joy for most. Which is why there are divorces, and say what you will, there are times more than there used to be few decades back. Old generations tied by traditions dying out I guess.

And while some are what you said, I don't think someone who remaries several times  has to be any kind of dick or whore. Do you call anyone who had more than, say, 5 partners overly whore-ish? Those people are just shortsighted and shouldn't get married so fast at the first place. In many case it has a lot to do with being stuck beween two worlds, on one side "You have to marry the person you like to be with them, so the god wills" and othe the other "It's ok to divorce". Simplified.

Why should everyone spend life with one person anyway? To perfect mastery of boredom?
But that is all subjective as it gets and varies localy.

I'm not sure the tardyness of teenagers is caused by today's view of marriage tho. Erm.
...Probably. It's in my nature.

I only remembered a post of yours saying "a few years". If you wish, I'll rethink and rephrase my argument once I get some sleep.

Partners? No. 1-2 Marriages: probably not, if more: probably yes. Perhaps not a whore or a dick, but someone who shouldn't marry for sure. However, as I've said a few times ago, I've been raised in a very traditional manner and I kind of naturally put a sort of importance on said event fairly rare nowadays and to be honest, divorces are very rare in my social circles, even thought I'm from the country that currently holds the largest divorce rates in the EU. I can only think of three examples of it throughout the people I constantly interact with or the people my parents do. So my view on the subject is likely a bit skewed. And, to my amusement, the only thing I've actively been taught about marriages is to not choose my partners on the basis of affection.

Personally, I'm not really interested in the prospects of playing the dating game or the hunt for decades. I've got many vices and interests. There are days where I simply want to put a check and shove the issue to the "solved problems" bin and retire to my other pursuits.

Perhaps, however that's what my reasoning told me in the ten minutes I've bothered to think about the topic. If you got another answer, feel free to share.

On a side, anyone got a tip on dealing with a migraine?
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