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« on: December 04, 2011, 07:56:15 AM »
Do they sell a type of computer speakers that accept huge headphone plugs?
This headphone plug isn't imbedded with the small one, i've tried adapters but the static is terrible.


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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 08:38:09 AM »
I used an adapter for medium sized plug to computer sized one. Didn't really get any static from it. Perhaps try a few different adapter/extension cables to find one that is a proper fit?

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 09:28:48 AM »
I used an adapter for medium sized plug to computer sized one. Didn't really get any static from it. Perhaps try a few different adapter/extension cables to find one that is a proper fit?

Already tried those, no luck.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 11:58:45 AM »
You need dedicated hardware for that.
Well not entirely true but it's better to have an external headphone amp to power those beasts, the silly 3.5mm and it's internals(standard PC audio) aren't designed for driving the big daddies.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 12:18:31 PM »
As power goes, the higher ohmage headphones above 70 ohms or so needs more driving voltages from the amp and some do not work well.  But if you have a sound card, it should be enough.  Your other workaround is to connect the audio to your monitor and then plug the headphones into the monitor.  Some monitors have good audio, many do not to the point where you can detect the loss of fidelity because you are using headphones which reveal such losses easily. 

If your headphones have less than 33 ohms or so, then the crackling static may be due to a dirty connection because your headphones are running at a lower voltage due to the lower ohms.   Lower voltage means dirty connections become more critical including the invisible grease film.  Your adapter's inside connectors might be corrupted by greasy film from multiple insertions of dirty connectors. 

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 12:41:07 PM »
Those headphones seem to be 8 ohms. Super sensitive.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 02:50:37 PM »
Those headphones seem to be 8 ohms.
^ This. Easy to drive.

I suspect it’s probably either wonky hphones, or lousy front panel audio-out. adapters themselves shouldn’t be introducing static, unless they’re really loose-fitting. If you’ve tried a bunch and none of them eliminate the issue then it’s probably not the adapter’s fault.

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 06:30:26 PM »
Dodgy front-panel audio is a very common issue (especially with Antec cases, I've noticed) - I get terrible static through my headphones when plugged into the front panel of my PC. It happens with my speakers too, but I can manipulate them to keep it to a minimum.

Make sure to try plugging them directly into your motherboard/sound card too, if you haven't already.

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 07:52:04 PM »
^ it happened to me with a local case, what the cause was the ground of the USB and the ground of the jacks were shared, cutting the connection took the static out, oh yea, sometimes this affects the backpanel as well.

edit: i meant isolating the two grounds from each other.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 12:04:05 PM »
Well cleaning out all of the adapters points worked for awhile until the static returned, then i blocked a random adapter point with toilet roll and surprisingly it seems to be doing the job for now.

Oh and that previous thread where i was getting random BSOD's the problem was a improperly connected internal hardisk.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 07:15:28 AM »
In the past, I've seen USB sound cards... that might be somewhat helpful on a temporary basis?
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 10:10:10 PM »
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Your adapter's inside connectors might be corrupted by greasy film from multiple insertions of dirty connectors. 
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Well cleaning out all of the adapters points worked for awhile until the static returned, then i blocked a random adapter point with toilet roll and surprisingly it seems to be doing the job for now.

In your case, if you are able to access the backside of the panel where the tiny miniplug socket is, you might be able to clean the connector surface.  If not, and you have a delicate touch, you can clean the inner surface with a q-tip (break off one end of paper stem q-tip, smooth irregularities on the broken end, and dip paper-end in isopropyl alcohol, insert carefully into miniplug socket to wipe the point that touches the miniplub barrel) but if you are clumsy or have a rough touch, do not do this or else things can get worse if you bend the inner leaf contact so that it touches the barrel with less pressure.

It's why gold or silver are used as industrial contact surfaces instead of steel or nickel-plated steel like with cheap connector surfaces.

A workaround might be to clean the plug barrel, insert, pull out, clean the plug barrel, repeat.   Do that several times and maybe enough of the skin oils coating the inner leaf pressure point will be removed to allow a better connection that doesn't have static.  Or you can "roughen" both the backsloping tip and the barrel of the plug.

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 03:32:57 AM »
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Your adapter's inside connectors might be corrupted by greasy film from multiple insertions of dirty connectors. 
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Well cleaning out all of the adapters points worked for awhile until the static returned, then i blocked a random adapter point with toilet roll and surprisingly it seems to be doing the job for now.

In your case, if you are able to access the backside of the panel where the tiny miniplug socket is, you might be able to clean the connector surface.  If not, and you have a delicate touch, you can clean the inner surface with a q-tip (break off one end of paper stem q-tip, smooth irregularities on the broken end, and dip paper-end in isopropyl alcohol, insert carefully into miniplug socket to wipe the point that touches the miniplub barrel) but if you are clumsy or have a rough touch, do not do this or else things can get worse if you bend the inner leaf contact so that it touches the barrel with less pressure.

It's why gold or silver are used as industrial contact surfaces instead of steel or nickel-plated steel like with cheap connector surfaces.

A workaround might be to clean the plug barrel, insert, pull out, clean the plug barrel, repeat.   Do that several times and maybe enough of the skin oils coating the inner leaf pressure point will be removed to allow a better connection that doesn't have static.  Or you can "roughen" both the backsloping tip and the barrel of the plug.

Ok, i shall bring out the back of my computer box soon to carry out this procedure. Seriously i wonder why my home stereo system is the only one where these headphones can directly connect to.
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 11:19:37 PM »
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Your adapter's inside connectors might be corrupted by greasy film from multiple insertions of dirty connectors. 
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Well cleaning out all of the adapters points worked for awhile until the static returned, then i blocked a random adapter point with toilet roll and surprisingly it seems to be doing the job for now.

In your case, if you are able to access the backside of the panel where the tiny miniplug socket is, you might be able to clean the connector surface.  If not, and you have a delicate touch, you can clean the inner surface with a q-tip (break off one end of paper stem q-tip, smooth irregularities on the broken end, and dip paper-end in isopropyl alcohol, insert carefully into miniplug socket to wipe the point that touches the miniplub barrel) but if you are clumsy or have a rough touch, do not do this or else things can get worse if you bend the inner leaf contact so that it touches the barrel with less pressure.

It's why gold or silver are used as industrial contact surfaces instead of steel or nickel-plated steel like with cheap connector surfaces.

A workaround might be to clean the plug barrel, insert, pull out, clean the plug barrel, repeat.   Do that several times and maybe enough of the skin oils coating the inner leaf pressure point will be removed to allow a better connection that doesn't have static.  Or you can "roughen" both the backsloping tip and the barrel of the plug.

Ok, i shall bring out the back of my computer box soon to carry out this procedure. Seriously i wonder why my home stereo system is the only one where these headphones can directly connect to.
mine has the big connector on front panel its nice

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2011, 06:16:21 AM »
Keeping clean is good.  Never eat pizza with hands and then touch surfaces.

At work, we once had an engineering related discussion about one engineering field trip where the low-bid supplier had a product delay.  Upon return, the gossip vine lit up with specious talk about how dirty that place was and how opening a drawer in a little-used corner of the factory revealed a smut magazine.  Oh my.  Physically dirty AND mentally dirty too.   One thing led to another about how clean we were compared to that supplier.  A coworker bragged how clean he was and we immediately had an impromptu contest where a bunch of us took a finger and touched a glass surface.  Everyone but 2 people (myself and one other guy) left significant fingerprints.  I then bragged about being as clean as my cat and I touched one fingerprint and wiped it clean with my finger.  It's easy to keep hands clean if everything else you use is also clean.  Otherwise, cross-contamination occurs such as you just washed your hands, then touch a greasy keyboard.  Oops, your fingers are dirty again.

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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2011, 06:49:40 AM »
Keeping clean is good.  Never eat pizza with hands and then touch surfaces.

At work, we once had an engineering related discussion about one engineering field trip where the low-bid supplier had a product delay.  Upon return, the gossip vine lit up with specious talk about how dirty that place was and how opening a drawer in a little-used corner of the factory revealed a smut magazine.  Oh my.  Physically dirty AND mentally dirty too.   One thing led to another about how clean we were compared to that supplier.  A coworker bragged how clean he was and we immediately had an impromptu contest where a bunch of us took a finger and touched a glass surface.  Everyone but 2 people (myself and one other guy) left significant fingerprints.  I then bragged about being as clean as my cat and I touched one fingerprint and wiped it clean with my finger.  It's easy to keep hands clean if everything else you use is also clean.  Otherwise, cross-contamination occurs such as you just washed your hands, then touch a greasy keyboard.  Oops, your fingers are dirty again.

I don't have alcohol so will spray oil do?
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2011, 12:03:00 PM »
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I don't have alcohol so will spray oil do?
That was a joke right?
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2011, 12:06:26 PM »
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I don't have alcohol so will spray oil do?
That was a joke right?

Nope, and one of my hardisks is signaling it's end..
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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2011, 01:53:18 PM »
On connectors, oil as well as atmospheric grime is a CONTAMINANT.  Therefore, it is bad in your case.  Oily lubricants have no place in electronic hardware.  Oil on a motherboard is bad since it attracts carbonaceous atmospheric soot.  Do not use oil to give things a nice shiny appearance.  That includes using sprays like that "armor all" which is basically an oil emulsion.  WD-40 is especially terrible as it has a lot of surface creep and will eventually migrate all over.




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Re: Super Speakers
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2011, 10:51:38 PM »
On connectors, oil as well as atmospheric grime is a CONTAMINANT.  Therefore, it is bad in your case.  Oily lubricants have no place in electronic hardware.  Oil on a motherboard is bad since it attracts carbonaceous atmospheric soot.  Do not use oil to give things a nice shiny appearance.  That includes using sprays like that "armor all" which is basically an oil emulsion.  WD-40 is especially terrible as it has a lot of surface creep and will eventually migrate all over.




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Yes, wiping contact power relays can be cleaned with a specialized aromatic aziotrope-forming spray.  But that is not really oil.

Oh wow that sucks, i'll make sure to keep oil away from the electronic equipment from now on.
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