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How to build pc?
Freedom Kira:
I can picture that. Basically, it's like putting a straight wire through a looped telephone wire. You have two hard drives there. If you have one long SATA cable and one short, you can curl the long one and feed the short one through it so that they become almost the same length, and connect both drives. If both cables are the same length, don't bother.
--- Quote from: Clannad_92 on January 08, 2012, 07:48:24 AM ---hmmm, how should i do that? but, the casing comes with a cable-holder thinggy (look at the black thing near the psu, just dunno how to bend/put the cable into it)...and yes, one back fan, 2 upper fan, and front fan...haha, im happy with my new casing...
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Interesting, didn't notice before. It's probably more of a cable separator than a management tool, being so close to the PSU.
For clear side panel cases, people normally try to run cables along the side of the case. In the end, though, it's your call. Do whatever makes it look nice enough to you - just don't block any of the key areas I mentioned earlier. Air should flow in through the front, in the hard drive bay area, and out through the back fan. The CPU cable that you have running over the CPU fan can be re-routed to sit around the heatsink, for starters. Or, if the cable is long enough, you could have it run around the top of the motherboard, but it looks like it's at its limit.
--- Quote from: krumm on January 08, 2012, 06:08:41 AM ---Why would you do that? That is no different then using only one dimm.
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I don't follow. Isn't that how dual channel RAM works? That's how I've always done it, and how people always advise to do it. You make it sound like the motherboard only detects one of the two sticks...
Soryon:
I am just going to drop this post on this thread rather then make a new one for a quick question;
Figured I would toss together a new PC but Im not totally sure what video card to drop in it. Im thinking of some variation of a 560, but figured I would see what other people thought
Current specs-
(click to show/hide)ECS H61H2-M2 Intel H61 Sandy Bridge Motherboard - Micro ATX, Socket H2 (LGA1155), Intel H61 Express, DDR3 1333MHz, SATA 3.0 Gb/s, 6-CH Audio, Intel HD Graphics, Fast Ethernet LAN
MPN: H61H2-M2
Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623i72700K
8G Ram maxed.I already have the above parts and Im just going to be using old HDDs and one of my spare power supplies. Ive got a variety of them so its not an issue.
I kinda wanna get a diff mobo so I can bump it up to 16gb rarm
Anyway, im thinking of a 560 video card, but do you guys think there might be something a bit nicer without being too much more expensive. money is not really an issue, but not going to of the line if its not at least reasonably better.
Currently, I am looking at getting this- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604
but open to ideas, if anyone has anything interesting to say. Otherwise I will prolly just go with that or something very similar.
Oh, also, I was just going to just put in some of my old fans, but what do you guys think of water cooled? Worth spending cash on for this rig?
Prolly just going to be used for light programming and video editting, some photoshop, games and videos.
kitamesume:
since you're getting a 560"ti" try taking a look at the 448core limited edition versions, they pack quite more performance for a little price up, usually sticking to 300$ at average, overclocking the 448core edition will get you a free GTX570 wannabe.
oooooor if you aren't gonna need too much grunt a 560(non-ti) will do almost anything below 1080p, perfect for 1680x1050 gaming, slightly sad for 1920x1080 but still can handle like less AA/AF, etc. but overclocking the 560(non-ti) is a beast, even passing the "ti" version.
GPU : GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi)
REVIEW: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-core-benchmark,3082.html
GPU : GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi)
REVIEW: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-amp-edition-gtx-560-directcu-ii-top,2944.html
krumm:
I guess ill explain what I was talking about in my post questioning the logic of filling the black slots first. First ill start off with a different question. Why if I have 2 dimms and 4 slots would I use a solution that gives lower performance, when the higher performance solution has no adverse effects?
There is really no reason to not use dual channels. If I had a 4GB dimm and 2 2GB dimms of the same speed and placed the 4GB dimm in the first black slot like in the picture from clannad, I would get the same performence from putting the 2 2GB dimms into both black slots. But, if I was to put one of the 2GB dimms in the first black slot and the other dimm in the first blue slot I would get more performance at no sacrifice. There is no reason to go out of the way to pick up another ram stick and place it in the same channel. If you want more ram on the other hand go for it, but at least put it in the other ram channel(the blue slot).
Ill end with acknowledging this. Does it really matter? Probably not for most people. You may only get 1-2 seconds faster decompression of your pirated Photoshop, but ill take it.
kitamesume:
^ theres a problem though, some motherboards only runs when a slot is populated as a pair, i.e. black-to-black or blue-to-blue but black-to-blue wont work, some even prioritize a certain pair like black-to-black first then blue-to-blue but not blue-to-blue first.
to give you a rough idea of the difference from a single-channel to a dual-channel is like comparing CL9 1600 to a CL9 1800, nothing much difference at all on most scenarios.
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