Not that great with computers...

[pantsu miru]

Howdy, I'm not that great with computers, but one particular little beauty caught my eye.
The CyberPower Black Pearl. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Black_Pearl/

I like how you can select what specs you want so it will either be better performance/better looking or cost less.

Any recommendations?  Hoping to spend under $2000 or at very least $2500
I would like to play especially some of the new games at full graphics settings and still have fairly smooth.


If you scroll down the page you'll see what can be chosen, motherboard, memory, video card, power supply, hard drive, etc.

Thanks in advance


Edit:  $919 is the least it will let me pay for the computer, lowest specs.  $13551 would be the maximum it would let me pay (with all the useless crap included and maximum specs)

[TiaNcAi888]

they're just trying to be apple-like... so many people aren't innovative these days. Also, there's so much LED overload that it can probably light up your entire room. Also, there're new i7s out on the market, why are you looking at old CPU?

[kureshii]

Just build your own setup and make better decisions than Cyberpower made with their case.

[kitamesume]

@OP
problem is, you could practically build a rig with an i7 and a decent GPU for under 1000$ so yeah, those kinds of setups aren't cost effective.

i'll repost a build for the simplest possible selections thats around 800-1000$

PS: if you can buy locally you can ask the shop keeper to put it together for you, thats MUCH more cheaper.

Edit: i forgot to ask, define smooth @ max settings.
theres tons of factors that concerns this, like screen resolution and/or with/without AA/AF, but since you said max settings i'll be taking it in as a full AA/AF with 1080p res.

Edit2: has anyone seen wikipedia's nvidia 600 series thats supposed to be released by january 2012?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units
the GTX 650 is suppose to run at GTX590 levels @ a wooping 70watts, unbelievable.

[vuzedome]

Ehhh WTF? You serious about the 650?
I've not heard of anything solid so far and even the China geeks are still scratching their heads.
And with a price tag like that? I must be in heaven.

[kitamesume]

^ i have my fingers crossed, gonna be a beast card for its price imho, if wiki says it right then it'll be the best bang for buck, unless the HD7xxx can compete.
btw, even if its not as fast as the GTX590 but rather is about on par with the GTX560 Ti its still a beast running at 70watts imho.

Edit:
as promised:
[$124.99]ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
[$219.99]Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
[$299.99]EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
[$36.99]Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[$179.99]Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - Bare Drive
[$89.99]Thermaltake TR-700P TR2 BRONZE 700W ATX
[$39.99]Xigmatek ASGARD II
TOTAL : $991.93
screw yourself over with an i7-2600K and another GTX560Ti 448core version in SLI for more performance.
[$299.99]EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
[$319.99]Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
GRAND TOTAL : $1391.92

btw, getting anything higher just to play at 1080p is kinda retarded, well thats just me.

note: if you're gonna ask if the 700W power supply can handle those, then here:
GTX 560 Ti 448core uses 200Watts at peak loads, 400Watts for two.
i7-2600K hardly uses 100Watts at peak loads.
Mobo+peripherals excluding harddisks uses barely 50Watts at peak loads.
Harddisks uses about 15Watts each on average.
sums up to 565Watts, well what do ya know, it fits! and 135Watts more to spare.

peak loads = stress tests on steroids.

[pantsu miru]

Edit: i forgot to ask, define smooth @ max settings.
theres tons of factors that concerns this, like screen resolution and/or with/without AA/AF, but since you said max settings i'll be taking it in as a full AA/AF with 1080p res.

As in no jerky scenes where the fps drops significantly for a second or two, and by max settings I mean the full pixel rating, whether it is like 1680x1080 or something like that and also some have an option for detail and sometimes even the colouring, things like that.

[kitamesume]

@OP
heres the set and if you match up the given specs to the ones on your given site you could see that they add about $400-$600 more which is kinda funny ain't it?

Edit:
as promised:
[$124.99]ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
[$219.99]Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
[$299.99]EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
[$36.99]Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
[$179.99]Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache - Bare Drive
[$89.99]Thermaltake TR-700P TR2 BRONZE 700W ATX
[$39.99]Xigmatek ASGARD II
TOTAL : $991.93
screw yourself over with an i7-2600K and another GTX560Ti 448core version in SLI for more performance.
[$299.99]EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
[$319.99]Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
GRAND TOTAL : $1391.92

btw, getting anything higher just to play at 1080p is kinda retarded, well thats just me.

note: if you're gonna ask if the 700W power supply can handle those, then here:
GTX 560 Ti 448core uses 200Watts at peak loads, 400Watts for two.
i7-2600K hardly uses 100Watts at peak loads.
Mobo+peripherals excluding harddisks uses barely 50Watts at peak loads.
Harddisks uses about 15Watts each on average.
sums up to 565Watts, well what do ya know, it fits! and 135Watts more to spare.

peak loads = stress tests on steroids.

Edit: oh and be smart and wait till Q1 2012 until they release the rumored GF 6xx and ivy bridges.
since the 6xx series are promising giants while the ivy bridges supporting native USB3 or was it SATAIII? maybe both with some performance boost.

Edit2: oh god it just hit me, i'm sooooo gonna love 2012's new laptop lineups with ivy bridge + GF 6xxM in them XD

[AnimeJanai]

To me, CyberPower is an unreliable company.  In the past, their products were falsely certified and they were forced to remove the Underwriter Laboratory mark.  Their CSA approval mark was put on packaging and their products sold on retail shelves BEFORE they had even received the so-called certification from CSA.

Their past CyberPower UPS (uninterruptible power supplies) had extravagant claims which reminded me of the infamous days when made in china desktop speakers in plastic 3x7 inch cases handled 450 watts of power.

[kitamesume]

100watts (50+50 left/right) true rated amplifiers directly up your face on full loudness can deaf you. and a 200watts(100+100 left/right) can rumble your table like theres a jackhammer drilling on it.

[pantywraith]

Definitely wait till Ivybrige and the next gen of Video Cards are out. It should only be a few months and you will get much better bang for your dollar.

If you need one now then some good advice and builds are avalible from ArsTechnica's system guide http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1161389.

But, kitamesume's build is good. The only thing I would change is the PSU to SeaSonic http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Manufactory=1697&N=50001697&IsNodeId=1&SpeTabStoreType=0

[rostheferret]

The funny thing with Technology is theres ALWAYS something new about to come out. ALWAYS. So i'll be the one to say screw that and think about what you need it for. Gaming you say? You'll want a decent nVidia graphics card and a mediocre to decent processor. If you got an i7 - hell, an i5 to make it interesting - and waited for the new graphics card, hands down the graphics card will be the bottleneck first. It always is, games don't often use all that much processing power. I can understand waiting for a new graphics card - if only to make the price of the current range halve - but personally, I wouldn't worry too much about getting the latest and greatest in processing speed.

No experience with that company but I will say avoid Dell (including Alienware), Hewlett Packard and Apple (duh). Had surprisingly good experience with eMachines, but sadly they seem to be pretty behind with the times now. Got one downstairs that's been running fine for 10+ years now, no upgrades. Was a great backup machine until my parents decided to ditch it's internet connection :/ Anyway, you will always get a better deal building it yourself. If you don't want to dabble with that, look on eBay. Private PC nerds build computers - custom quite often - test them, and then ship them for maybe a +50% mark up. That'd still probably shave a fair amount off the price of most manufacturers.

[kitamesume]

^ nao the point of the suggestions of waiting for IvyB and GF6xx is because they're pretty much weeks away more or less. to top it off the improvement from the previous generation isnt laughable either.

well since you're building a new rig and a new model is about to be released in 5-8weeks from now then heck, why not wait and see whats up? it may or may not be the best, but you still have the option to buy the previous generations with the nicest price drops, double win you may say.

[Bob2004]

It's also worth considering long-term compatibility as well before deciding whether to go for current technology or wait for the next generation. I built my current PC weeks before the first i7 CPUs came out, which all use a totally different socket to the Core 2 Quad CPUs available at the time - so if I wanted to upgrade my CPU now it'd be a real pain, since I'd need a new motherboard as well.

If the new generation of technology is fully backwards-compatible, then it's not a concern (I don't know anything at all about Ivy Bridge), but if they're not then I'd recommend waiting for them before building too.

[mgz]

Howdy, I'm not that great with computers, but one particular little beauty caught my eye.
The CyberPower Black Pearl. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Black_Pearl/

I like how you can select what specs you want so it will either be better performance/better looking or cost less.

Any recommendations?  Hoping to spend under $2000 or at very least $2500
I would like to play especially some of the new games at full graphics settings and still have fairly smooth.


If you scroll down the page you'll see what can be chosen, motherboard, memory, video card, power supply, hard drive, etc.

Thanks in advance


Edit:  $919 is the least it will let me pay for the computer, lowest specs.  $13551 would be the maximum it would let me pay (with all the useless crap included and maximum specs)

honestly i think your much better off giving us a price point you cant go beyond and letting us know what you want to do exactly then we can tell you what to buy and you can use a little patience and build it yourself.
Building your own pc isnt nearly as hard or scary as it seems if you dont care how nice the cabling looks on the inside. Its mostly matching colors and shapes and taking your time to not break things

[kitamesume]

^ building a rig is like putting together lego blocks made of glass where you don't want to scratch or drop the things.

edit: but they aren't hard to handle like, umm, glass bottles? yea sure they're fragile from the looks but they're actually sturdy with the proper handling.

[xShadow]

.... I love how there have been plenty of these "I'm not too good with computers, help me choose a prebuilt" threads that have been converted into "Fuck that, build your own, and here's how we're gonna set you up, see?"

Not that it's a bad thing. Everyone that's into gaming should learn to build their own computer. It's much better, and in so many ways.