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Hi10P and 8-bit encodes
Jazzkatt:
Not everyone watches anime sitting in front of a computer. In the last year and a half MKV support along with DLNA started to
be found on many Blu-ray players and various other set top box style front ends.
So I built a media server that uses such devices in mostly theater style environments,that
can be accessed with a remote instead of a mouse and keyboard. But! that support is limited to 8-bit encodes.
While Media Player Classic does a great job of playing 10-bit files , it's user interface
sets the U.I. back 20 years . And when sitting in a theater type environment the stark white
folder you have to use to choose what you want to watch just kills your eyes.
If there was a Media Center style library that would launch my media in Media Player Classic
I would then be pacified till set top hardware caught up .And jump on the 10-bit band wagon as well .
But I have yet to find one that works any where as smooth WMC7 or other set top players with a remote or mouse.
If you know of one then I would like to see it.
larpo:
--- Quote from: lolnameless on December 25, 2011, 05:56:44 PM ---also, im not sure about vdpau support on hi10p(that's why this post is made), dont test it on hi10p
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VDPAU doesn't support hi10p and it will just crash if you try. AFAIK adding support wouldn't even be possible due to limitations in nvidia's hw decoder implementations.
--- Quote from: ferrari on December 25, 2011, 07:13:48 PM ---on the PC watching either 10-bit or 8-bit is ok but what about media-players? I mean hardware media-players which comes as box with Ethernet slot so you can connect it to NAS and watch HD anime on your huge TV-set. AFAIK there is no one such device on market now which can support 10-bit coding.
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and
--- Quote from: Jazzkatt on December 25, 2011, 07:57:24 PM --- Not everyone watches anime sitting in front of a computer. In the last year and a half MKV support along with DLNA started to
be found on many Blu-ray players and various other set top box style front ends.
So I built a media server that uses such devices in mostly theater style environments,that
can be accessed with a remote instead of a mouse and keyboard. But! that support is limited to 8-bit encodes.
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This is the biggest issue. Decent laptop/dektop computer would still be able to play 10bit stuff without hw decoding (well, at least upto 720p), but with htpc and media streamer devices you are completely out of luck.
DarthSpecial:
I think there's another issue here that isn't being addressed. On many shows, particularly the older ones, there is a certain amount of detail and no more. Whatever the width x length is on the DVD is the maximum that you're going to be able to pull off of it without getting an upscale that just wastes data space. I don't know what this limitation is. But I'm not in favor of needlessly wasting my storage space with downloads that don't have to be that big to play well. Also, any file over 4.37 GB won't burn onto a standard DVD without using special procedures to chop it up, and doing that, saving multiple pieces, and reassembling and parity checking the result is a nuisance. Since the original published DVD held the show in its VIDEO_TS file, and it was under 4.37 GB, I don't see any reason for anything to ever get any bigger than that. (I've not seen this happening yet, but that's the direction this whole thing is heading.) I'm already downloading shows that get some lag in the dialog without the CPU being dedicated to doing nothing other than running the player.
Aadieu:
SLOT B: Dedicated 720p 8bit, where are you??
And how about an exception that specifically states that Hi10P is *NOT* a great reason for bloatcoder munchkins like Coalgirls to happily turn their already ridiculous up-to-900mb 720p rips into over 1.1 gig 720p rips, and churn out 2+ gigabyte FullHDs. OR JUST BAN [COALGIRLS] FROM SLOTS A&B ENTIRELY ALREADY. Cause it's not just the size, it's the 0.00% quality gain + nasty habit of appropriating others' subs and stacking them onto their not in the least superior but MUCH more bloated encodes, and then getting credit like they actually did something.
Case in point: recently spent like 2 hours staring from 2 inches away at a 46" fullhd screen, comparing an 867mb not counting another 100mbs OP/ED Coalgirls (eclipse subs 720p) ep of FMA:B to the original 343mb Eclipse (720p, entire episode from start to finish, no separate OP/ED). Except for slightly WORSE colour saturation for Coalgirls, there wasn't a single damn difference... and it's like that every time, at best, or much worse than the smaller original in the worse cases... Thing is, though, the promise of more bitrate kills the original torrent (of which I just had one file accidentally in this case, others lost to computer failure), and we're forced to download 2-3 times more and then actually suffer worse quality. THAT SUCKS.
bhus121:
There is no need to be quality fags. 1st of all you get to download all the encodes for free. So kindly stop harping about quality. Fansubbers should use their brains. They sub anime not only for fun but also for sharing with people who don't get access to anime in their country.They should see the bigger picture and at least take out dedicated 8bit 720p for every anime. 1080p 8 bit rips can be chucked. It should be cultivated as a standard practice for the coming 1 1/2 years . :police:
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